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definately seeing this weekend!
 

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Saw it tonight! What an incredible film. Our SF guys kickass!

My gf commented that she thought the acting was terrible. I told her that they don't teach acting in SEAL school. :)
 

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Very good movie and yes, the acting was just so so.

One of my good friends is an Annapolis grad and a former Seal Team Leader. He's an MD now and he actually gave me an inside tour of the Seal facility when we were at a meeting together in SD.

The reason he left to go to Medical School is because he had just gotten married and had a young son. He was the team leader for 5 years.
 

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loved the movie.

acting sucks because they were actually soldiers...not actors =)
 

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I tried explaining that to no avail.

She told me she would have rather seen actors playing SEAL's. :doh:
 

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loved the movie.

acting sucks because they were actually soldiers...not actors =)

Seals are not soldiers, they are sailors. Even Marines who want to become Seals have to leave the Marine Corps (a Department of the Navy) and join the Navy to attend BUD/S school in Coronado Ca.
 
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I saw this with my husband (retired US Marine). He loved it, of course. The movie made me sick to my stomach. At one point I had to leave the theater because I was afraid I might vomit. This has never happened to me at a movie before. It wasn't the violence, although there was obviously plenty of that. I get motion sick and I think it was the "realistic" way it was filmed (hand-held cameras?). Whenever they were on water it felt like I was on the water.
 

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Yeah, the motion sickness got my gf a little bit too. Didnt bother me.

Much of the movie was shot with Canon EOS 5D Mark II and GoPro cameras (for the video that was shot from the soldier perspective).
 

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i rent a lot, but i was happy to support it at box office

first (and second) time ive paid for digital screen (other than dark knight and MI4 real imax)

and wow it was worth it for this film (shot up close, quiet) between screen and real surround sound
 

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I saw this last weekend. Really enjoyed the movie. Also found it a little disconcerting to think of all the danger that is out there in the world. Thinking of what they showed it made me wonder what is worse in reality. - Also living so close to Mexico gave me some pause as well :eek: I only noticed the acting issue at the very beginning, then was totally into the story, and in tears by the end.
 

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Yessa!

My gf commented that she thought the acting was terrible. I told her that they don't teach acting in SEAL school. :)

Very well said. :clap: I hope that your observation stunned her into an immediate and deafening silence.
 

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There is no "playing" what a Navy SEAL is or does...

I tried explaining that to no avail.

She told me she would have rather seen actors playing SEAL's. :doh:

They actually tried that approach in the making of the movie. It flat out didn't work --- and the consulting SEALS made that fact abundantly clear. Mere Hollywood actors simply weren't able to credibly portray or adopt the fearless nature and intelligence of these brave warriors. No Screen Actors Guild union card could possibly hope to impart the ability to even pretend to be that which they were /are are inherently and genetically incapable of even dreaming of ever being...
 
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The "entrance exam" for Navy SEAL training...

...is called BUD/s (Basic Underwater Demolition School) --- which precedes any actual SEAL Team selection and training.

A few years ago, the Navy allowed the embedding of a film crew into one BUD/s class (no actors involved) from program start to finish (BUD/s class #234, unless I'm mistaken). The end product was a several-hour program aired on the Discovery Channel, which later became a commercially available DVD as well.

Previous "rank" disappears upon entry into the BUD/s program; officers and enlisted men in the program immediately become equals; true leadership skills and abilities later surface on their own. What these men do, learn and endure is almost beyond my ability to comprehend. Candidates can "ring the bell" and quit the program at any time; many do so. Others don't quit on their own, but are either removed involuntarily and permanently or, if seen by instructors as having real potential, get "recycled" into a future BUD/s class.

All I can say about these brave warriors who manage to get through BUD/s and then later become Navy SEALS is that I thank God above that it's my country that they represent and fight for.
Osama Bin Laden would likely disagree with that observation but, as it turns out, he is unavailable to do so...
 
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Not a "chick flick" - Loved it, I will be watching it again for sure.

Theo, I get the impression you also loved it? :rolleyes:
 

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Not yet...

Theo, I get the impression you also loved it? :rolleyes:

Truth to tell, I have not yet even seen Act of Valor (but I certainly intend to do so). However, I read some material about its' actual making, which is how I learned about about the (miserably failed) initial plans and efforts to use Hollywood actors to "play" Navy SEALS in the movie.

There is no branch of the military I respect or admire more than the United States Marine Corps. That being said however, Navy SEALS are certainly a special breed of cat and in a league all their own...

Semper Fi
 
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Very well said. :clap: I hope that your observation stunned her into an immediate and deafening silence.

Not really. LOL

Like i said in my other comment, she would have rather seen actors. She doesnt get it.

My dad was a sniper in the USMC and retired from the Marines after 30 years.

My dad had several SEAL friends that I've met through the years and I always enjoyed talking to them.
 

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Not really. LOL

Like i said in my other comment, she would have rather seen actors. She doesnt get it.

My dad was a sniper in the USMC and retired from the Marines after 30 years.

My dad had several SEAL friends that I've met through the years and I always enjoyed talking to them.

Marines have and do serve closely together with sailors (Navy personal - including SEALs) and have traditionally engaged in good natured ribbing of some sailors.

It has been my experience that Marines have a lot of respect for those sailors that serve with Marine units or in units that serve on the ground alongside Marine units such as:

-Trauma Surgeons
-Corpsmen
-Chaplains
-SEALs
-Seabees (combat engineers)

Semper Fi
 

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I have trained and fought along side Navy Seals. They train to fight not act and there are no other people in the world as good as they are at it.
 

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directors spent 6 months with NSW community including some of the main 8 guys

at that point, they decided they just could not use actors. they never even tried. they filmed yacht take down out of pocket and tried to get major hollywood support and couldnt. legendary pictures became one of the investors. budget figures have ranged from $12-18mm, but im assuming it was $12-13mm considering relativity paid $13mm guarantee. relativity recouped $7.5mm from sales/partnerships, not including the recent FX (tv channel) pickup. they spent $32mm on marketing.

it took another 4 months to convince 8 guys to agree to do it, although they havent been specific on exact timeline of navy approving and supporting using the actual guys, as well as securing independent financing

SWCC have major role in film (shown in trailer) and there are also the guys from the nuclear sub who help offload the minisub

all military personnel were on active duty status

besides a handful of times when they had camera operators dressed as military to film "blue on blue" where cameras would be aimed at each other. interestingly, shane hurlbut said the POV shot of fast rope to SWCC boat was done by crew, not military.

re security >
1 guy apparently just got back from a tour in Afghanistan in February 2012 (after trailer, before release)
only 2 other guys might have been on combat deployment status in late 2011
1 of the other 2 guys was definitely not deployed at time of release

http://www.makingof.com/film/856/act-of-valor
12:25 - highly amusing - describing chief dave's initial response when asked about being in film

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offtopic - heard a former delta guy say that in transformers 2/3 all the military operators (only 2 main actors IIRC, unlike first movie) were played by former military
 
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