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Accommodation Certificate Question

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I read the FAQ advice from Dave concerning A/C's but still have this question:

If A/Cs are being given for my t/s, are they given for lockout units that have been split - even if both sides of the lockout are deposited with II at the same time?

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I read the FAQ advice from Dave concerning A/C's but still have this question:

If A/Cs are being given for my t/s, are they given for lockout units that have been split - even if both sides of the lockout are deposited with II at the same time?

Thanks,
Jeff


It will depend on the demand for that resort and any deals the resort developer/management may have cut with I.I. but, in general, the answer to your question is no. Normally I.I. will want the entire unit for an AC.

We own DRI's Polo Towers. In the past, if I locked out my unit I would still get an AC for the one bedroom portion but not for the studio portion of my unit. This would mean that I would have my studio unit, my deposited 1 bedroom side of that unit and an AC for that one bedroom deposit or three weeks of vacation out of that one 2 bedroom unit. OUt of the seven timeshares we own, Polo Towers has been the only resort we've owned that I.I. has allowed us to lock-out and still receive an AC.

The reason I say that AC's may depend upon deals cut with I.I. by the developer is two fold.

1. I.I. has given out in the past AC's for those exchanging INTO DRI's Powhatan and Greensprings resorts in Williamsburg during off/slow season. That has to be a developer sponsored perk trying to get people into the resort on exchange for potential sales presentations.

2. While Polo Towers owners have enjoyed rather liberal handing out of AC's, the nicer and newer Marriott just a few steps to the east does not. The new Marriott is newer, nicer, has more amenities and does not, at this time, have any more units than Polo Towers. You'll have trouble convincing me that the Marriott has so much less demand than Polo Towers that it would not warrent an AC if I.I. is giving them out to Polo Towers owners. Therefore, I strongly suspect that the developer can have some affect on whether or not their owners get AC's for their deposits.
 

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To add to what Doug said, II doesnt offer ACs for studio units.
 

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I thought for many of the Marriotts, at least, if II is offering an AC they will offer it for a 1BR or larger deposit. Thus, if you lock-out a 2BR and II offers an AC for it, it will offer an AC for the 1BR side and not the studio.
 

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Thanks everyone.

I was not expecting 2 AC's for the split 2bedroom unit, just hoping for one.

Since we know we will not be staying at our own timeshare anyway, I guess it makes sense to deposit it now, right? This will give me the best chance for the AC and give me better trading power....right? (I have Desert Spring Villas, split lockout, for New Years week, 2009, for both units-my 1st timeshare reservation)

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Thanks everyone.

I was not expecting 2 AC's for the split 2bedroom unit, just hoping for one.

Since we know we will not be staying at our own timeshare anyway, I guess it makes sense to deposit it now, right? This will give me the best chance for the AC and give me better trading power....right? (I have Desert Spring Villas, split lockout, for New Years week, 2009, for both units-my 1st timeshare reservation)

Jeff


Not necessarily. Sometimes I.I. begins offering AC's later in the year if they're not getting enough deposits from that resort and the demand turns out to be higher than expected. If that's the case, I.I. may or may not issue an AC if you deposited before they were offering the AC's.

It only makes sense to deposit if the week you deposit has high enough trading power to suit your needs. In my case, I know I'll be exchanging at least my 1 bedroom LO portion of our 3 bedroom unit at MGC. However, Jan. weeks don't have the highest trading power so, I'll wait until I can reserve a week with higher exchange power. At that time I'll reserve that week and deposit it for exchange. It will be deposited at the maximum range of 1 year in advance and it will be a stronger week than I can reserve today.

The only time I allow Marriott to pick the week is when I lock-out my studio unit at Ocean Pointe. It's a silver week and, since I generally use it for an exchange into Branson, MO, trade power really isn't an issue. I usually ask for a May week as those seem to have a little more power and, I can lock-out and deposit by May rather than waiting until September.
 

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It only makes sense to deposit if the week you deposit has high enough trading power to suit your needs.

Thanks Doug. So since I have already reserved New Years week, 2009-10, a year away, and since I know I will not go there myself and want to trade it, and since that should be a strong trader, based on your suggestion I guess I should deposit now
Jeff
 

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You can always call II and ask if they will give you an AC for your deposit. If they will, it is better to deposit as soon as possible. Just to reiterate, you could receive an AC for the 1 bedroom portion but not the studio portion (if that's what you have). Maximizing use of our timeshares makes trading really fun.
 

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Thanks Doug. So since I have already reserved New Years week, 2009-10, a year away, and since I know I will not go there myself and want to trade it, and since that should be a strong trader, based on your suggestion I guess I should deposit now
Jeff

Actually Week 1 (which you reserved) is just a so-so week during your season according to the II travel demand index. For Palm Springs/Desert, Weeks 9-13 (March) have the highest demand.

I own at ShadowRidge (platinum) and will be reserving a late March week and locking it out.

If you want an AC, you should call II to see if they are offering an AC now for the week you have reserved. The answer might be no, but later in the year it may be yes. As far as depositing, it all depends on if you want an AC, and secondly where you want to exchange into. If it's going to be at a hard-to-get location, the earlier you put in your request the better.

I'd have a plan before I deposit it with II.

If you do get an AC, it is only good for one year from the date of issue (not the date of your reserved week). So if they would issue an AC now, it will only be good until Jan 2, 2010.
 

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Thanks Doug. So since I have already reserved New Years week, 2009-10, a year away, and since I know I will not go there myself and want to trade it, and since that should be a strong trader, based on your suggestion I guess I should deposit now
Jeff

If you've already reserved that week and you know you're not going to use it, I'd deposit it now.
 

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Actually Week 1 (which you reserved) is just a so-so week during your season according to the II travel demand index. For Palm Springs/Desert, Weeks 9-13 (March) have the highest demand.

I own at ShadowRidge (platinum) and will be reserving a late March week and locking it out.

If you want an AC, you should call II to see if they are offering an AC now for the week you have reserved. The answer might be no, but later in the year it may be yes. As far as depositing, it all depends on if you want an AC, and secondly where you want to exchange into. If it's going to be at a hard-to-get location, the earlier you put in your request the better.

I'd have a plan before I deposit it with II.

If you do get an AC, it is only good for one year from the date of issue (not the date of your reserved week). So if they would issue an AC now, it will only be good until Jan 2, 2010.

It might depend on if the OP considers New Years Week week 52 or week 1. There can be a big difference in exchange power between those two weeks.

Or did I miss where he said he reserved week 1. I thought he posted New Years week 2009 -10 which would include NYE and should be week 52.
 

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It might depend on if the OP considers New Years Week week 52 or week 1. There can be a big difference in exchange power between those two weeks.

Or did I miss where he said he reserved week 1. I thought he posted New Years week 2009 -10 which would include NYE and should be week 52.

You're right, it could he could be talking about week 52 of 2009 or week 1 of 2010. It gets a little confusing.:confused:
 

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I reserved week 52, including New Years Eve. This is my 2009 week, not 2010. When I spoke with the Marriott specialist he told me, looking at his computer, that at DSV, Christmas week and New Years week had equal trading value.
 

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Then, if you haven't already deposited the week I'd do it now. The earlier you deposit the higher the trade value should be. Also, if you know where you want to go, the earlier you make your request, even if it's over 12 months in advance, the closer you are to the front of the perverbial exchange line for that resort.

In March I'll lock-off, reserve, deposit and request with one of my weeks. Even though the requested exchange is likely to be May, July, or Sept. of 2010. Right now I'm debating a week in either Lake Tahoe, Hilton Head or Myrtle Beach. Park City could be a possibility as as well.
 
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