AC or "discount certificate"??

[SDKath]

Hello,

I am a confused newbie when it comes to Marriott. I finallly got my Shadow Ridge put in my name (6 months!!!). Anyway, I called owner services to see if I can deposit my March 09 week in II. I asked about an AC. The lady said they are not really free weeks but discounts at the hotel????

I am confused. She also seemed confused and says people are calling her back saying they should have a free week deposited but instead they have to pay for a hotel room and then there is a discount on it? I have never heard this before?

Can someone tell me if I got the right info? She also kept saying I was in the 60 day window for my March 20th deposit so I am thinking she may not really have all the ducks lined up??

Thanks,

Katherine

 

[FlyerBobcat]

Katherine, some additional information:

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showpost.php?p=463669&postcount=15

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86506

Hello,

I am a confused newbie when it comes to Marriott. I finallly got my Shadow Ridge put in my name (6 months!!!). Anyway, I called owner services to see if I can deposit my March 09 week in II. I asked about an AC. The lady said they are not really free weeks but discounts at the hotel????
Katherine

 

[thinze3]

Katherine,
Yes you can read the Marriott FAQ's but...

I can tell you that an AC issued from II for a Marriott property does NOT work that way. If it is a true AC, it will be an extra week in your II account that you can trade just like any other week. The difference is that it will be blocked from 'most' locations during their prime seasons. Orlando, for example, is open most of the year. The block is dropped during Flexchange (59 days out).

It is a wonderful opportunity to get very good weeks during Flexchange and even more so with Marriotts priority period.

Terry

 

[CMF]

The exchange fee is higher though: more than using your regular week for an exchange and less that buying a Getaway.

They are not worth much to me. I had one expire in November and I have two expiring next year that I don't have plans for.

Charles

 

[thinze3]

The exchange fee is higher though: more than using your regular week for an exchange and less that buying a Getaway.

They are not worth much to me. I had one expire in November and I have two expiring next year that I don't have plans for.

Charles

Charles is correct, I forgot to mention the higher fee. I booked 2 resorts this year with AC's. One at Grand Chateau and another at Beachplace. Both were 2BR units and each cost $299 for the exchange.

Terry

 

[SDKath]

Thanks for the replies. I called back and the new rep told me that indeed my week will get an AC deposited into my II account. They tell me I can only get 1 week a year? I have 2 deposits I was trying to make but I guess I will only have 1 AC? Is that right? Or the info is wrong again?

Katherine

 

[thinze3]

I am not sure what you mean by two deposits?

If you deposit your March '09 2BR Shadow Ridge it sounds like you will get an AC.
If your lock-off your Shadow Ridge and deposit the 1BR you most likely will get an AC.
If you deposit the studio you will NOT get an AC.

If you get an AC for your '09 Shadow Ridge you CAN also get an AC for another '09 week at a different resort which qualifies - both in the same year.

You are losing trade value daily, so you need to deposit ASAP - IMO.

Terry

 

[aka Julie]

Katherine,

I just received a notice in the mail from II saying my 2 bedroom ShadowRidge qualified for an AC. No mention about just the 1-bedroom side.

I just bought a resale this year also and intend to use my ShadowRidge next March, but will probably turn in to II every other year and hope to get ACs.

 

[Dave M]

You can get as many ACs as you have qualifying deposits. Thus, for example, you can get one for your comtemplated deposit. And if you own another timeshare week for which II is offering an AC, you can get one for that, too.

Two years ago, I locked off my 3BR Grand Chateau, deposited both the 2BR and 1BR portions and got an AC for each.

 

[SDKath]

You can get as many ACs as you have qualifying deposits. Thus, for example, you can get one for your comtemplated deposit. And if you own another timeshare week for which II is offering an AC, you can get one for that, too.

Two years ago, I locked off my 3BR Grand Chateau, deposited both the 2BR and 1BR portions and got an AC for each.

Thanks guys. As it turns out, I needed to open an II account before I could deposit anything. I guess my Starwood II account doesn't count. UGH. $84 more.

What I did is move my studio to week 51 and just reserved that time. My 1br is still reserved for March 20th 2009. I was going to go ahead and deposit both in II and I confirmed the AC ONLY with the 1BR (per the rep).

But now I am thinking I should move my 1br to week 51 also? That way I am depositing both units into II at almost a year out rather than less than 3 months? What do you guys think? I appreciate all the help because this is a whole new world for me with Marriott.

Thanks! Katherine

 

[thinze3]

It's not that much difference on the II demand index chart (130 vs 140). I would think that you would have better value in week 51. Besides, you would also be extending your 2 year reservation window by 9 months.

Good for you! I would make the change.

Terry

 

[FlyerBobcat]

demand index chart ??

... II demand index chart (130 vs 140).....
Terry

What is a "demand index chart" that shows these numerical values
Thanks

 

[thinze3]

What is a "demand index chart" that shows these numerical values
Thanks

http://www.intervalworld.com/web/cs?a=1503&resortCode=MRD&parentResortCode=MRD

Look right below where it says "Resort Information" to the right of the photos.

Terry

 

[gmarine]

Thanks guys. As it turns out, I needed to open an II account before I could deposit anything. I guess my Starwood II account doesn't count. UGH. $84 more.

What I did is move my studio to week 51 and just reserved that time. My 1br is still reserved for March 20th 2009. I was going to go ahead and deposit both in II and I confirmed the AC ONLY with the 1BR (per the rep).

But now I am thinking I should move my 1br to week 51 also? That way I am depositing both units into II at almost a year out rather than less than 3 months? What do you guys think? I appreciate all the help because this is a whole new world for me with Marriott.

Thanks! Katherine

Before you change the dates of the one bedroom make sure that you will receive an AC for a week 51 deposit. AC offers are usually specific to a range of certain dates.

 

[FlyerBobcat]

http://www.intervalworld.com/web/cs?a=1503&resortCode=MRD&parentResortCode=MRD
Look right below where it says "Resort Information" to the right of the photos.
Terry

Thanks... I use those charts often, but never noticed the reference numbers at the bottom of the chart!

 

[SDKath]

So I deposited my week 51 Studio in II for 2009. I also deposited my March week with II and got an AC. It is a short deposit (only 3 months out) but the free AC should hopefully allow me to get some good trade too.

Once again, the rep told me that the AC is not really an AC but a "discount" on the week. I am sooooo confused. We got on the phone with II and the lady clarified that indeed it is a true AC. BUT, the Marriott rep said it is for the hotel only?????

I don't know what they are talking about? This is the 2nd Marriott rep telling me this. I don't have on line access to this II account yet so I need to set it up and see what exactly was deposited in my account. I hope it was the free week that the II rep said would be in the account, not a hotel discount.

By the way, the week 51 would NOT have gotten me an AC.

Katherine

 

[Dave M]

By the way, the week 51 would NOT have gotten me an AC.

That's as it should be. Accurate advice from one of Terry's posts above:

If you deposit the studio you will NOT get an AC.

That same info is in the FAQ for ACs, part of the FAQs located at the top of the list of topics for this Marriott forum.

 

[GrayFal]

So I deposited my week 51 Studio in II for 2009. I also deposited my March week with II and got an AC. It is a short deposit (only 3 months out) but the free AC should hopefully allow me to get some good trade too.

Once again, the rep told me that the AC is not really an AC but a "discount" on the week. I am sooooo confused. We got on the phone with II and the lady clarified that indeed it is a true AC. BUT, the Marriott rep said it is for the hotel only?????

I don't know what they are talking about? This is the 2nd Marriott rep telling me this. I don't have on line access to this II account yet so I need to set it up and see what exactly was deposited in my account. I hope it was the free week that the II rep said would be in the account, not a hotel discount.

By the way, the week 51 would NOT have gotten me an AC.

Katherine

The II account you have for your non-SVN Starwood weeks is just fine for your Marriott week, you can add it to that account by extending your II membership by one year or pay a fee of $39 to II to add it.

You will get an email confirmation of the AC and it will have the restrictions on it. It is NOT given to you by Marriott but by II. It is not for a hotel room but for an II Timeshare accommodations. As a Marriott owner - you DO get discounts at Marriott hotels but this has nothing to do with II - it is thru Marriott.

The Marriott Rep probably is not familiar with all II policies/offers. The AC does carry a fee - usually $199/249/299 for a studio/1BR/2BR + unit but some vary in the price structure. It normally takes a few days for the AC to show up in your account...if you don't 'se' it by early next week, call II back and ask about it.

 

[SDKath]

Pat,

They absolutely refused to put the week into my non-SVN II account. I had to pay $84 and open a new account. I might call them tomorrow and find out why my non-SVN account would not work.

Katherine

 

[Dave M]

GrayFal is correct. You could have paid that same $84 to extend the membership on your non-SVN account or the $39 that Grayfal describes. From the II Membership T&C:

Where a Member purchases additional Vacation Interests, such Member may include such additional Vacation Interests within his or her then-current Individual Membership upon the payment of an administrative fee of US$39 per adjustment. Alternatively, upon the purchase of additional Vacation Interests, said Member may elect to pay an additional annual Individual Membership fee of US$84 at the time such Vacation Interests are included with the Individual Membership, whereupon II shall extend the term of said Member’s then-current Individual Membership for an additional 12-month period per additional membership fee paid.

There is separate language in the T&C that covers the requirement to have your SVN in a separate account from non-SVN timeshares.

When you call tomorrow, you should insist (politely) that they merge the new account with your existing non-SVN account. It makes things messy and cumbersome to have so many II accounts. The only exception is that if the name(s) on the Marriott title is different from the name(s) on your other II non-SVN title, you may need separate accounts.

 

[SDKath]

Thanks guys! Our name is the same so it should be the same account. I will keep everyone up to date. This whole process requires an advanced degree and a LOT of patience. I hope someone else is learning from this not just me. I can't believe this is a unit I bought back in the Spring!!!!

Katherine

 

[GrayFal]

Pat,

They absolutely refused to put the week into my non-SVN II account. I had to pay $84 and open a new account. I might call them tomorrow and find out why my non-SVN account would not work.

Katherine

GrayFal is correct. You could have paid that same $84 to extend the membership on your non-SVN account or the $39 that GrayFal describes. From the II Membership T&C:There is separate language in the T&C that covers the requirement to have your SVN in a separate account from non-SVN timeshares.

When you call tomorrow, you should insist (politely) that they merge the new account with your existing non-SVN account. It makes things messy and cumbersome to have so many II accounts. The only exception is that if the name(s) on the Marriott title is different from the name(s) on your other II non-SVN title, you may need separate accounts.

Kath, let it all go until after the holidays.....I am unsure who "they" are - we can talk after 1/1 - I will be home that weekend.

I recently received an offer from II that as an SVN owner, I could get 2 years of II for the price of one.....it was offered to SBP,SDO,PGA, and the Vistana gang - I called - added my new Marriott week to my existing account using that offer. My week did not appear in my II account. I called II, they said they would resubmit.
I then called Marriott Owner Services - who confirmed my new week was in my account - they then call Marriott II desk as a 3 way conversation - and after a few minutes, the week was added. You will be able to achieve the same results.....

Also, IMHO - week 51 at your resort will eventually get an AC for a 1BR unit or larger - they just are not always offered one year out..... so if it helps you in the future to reserve week 51 to extend your use year - it would be okay to wait to reserve.