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I hope you've used a lot of those MR points on some nice trips!

When I first looked at your post I thought you were sitting on 1,600,000 points and I wondered why you weren't using them. I talked to an owner at the hot tub once who said they had over a million MR points but her husband didn't like hotels. They also have children and grandchildren. I told her I could help her use them :D

Can I ask. . .when you turn in the timeshares and figure the cost of each MR point what do you come up with?

I wish I had that many in the bank, but as you noted, this is the amount I have used and spent on great places; London x 2, Paris x 2, Key West (upcoming), St. Augustine (Casa Monica), etc. Currently, I have 377,525 points (this includes 2016's MRPs).

Long story short, Cliff Notes version:

Got an excellent deal on these. Right place, right time - for a change. My outlay was small considering the units came with MRPs
I haven't done the cost : point ratio on these yet, but I should.

I acquired these 2 Platinum weeks due to a "blessed fluke". I bought these at a Marriott auction in 2011 for $4k each. At the auction, the attorney-auctioneer for Marriott announced and explained the amount of points that came with each season; 125k for platinum, 110k for gold and 75k for silver. I questioned this as I had never heard of MRPs with resale units even at a Marriott auction. Anyway, I got the units, but had to "go to the top" to get the points. Cannot say enough good things about Marriott's highest management and the CH management. They righted things.

ETA: Marriott corrected this practice and has taken measures not to award MRPs at their own sanctioned auctions. Fortunately for them, I was the lone bidder at the auction.

Here is the long version: http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154467&highlight=custom+house+auction
 
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I hope you've used a lot of those MR points on some nice trips!

When I first looked at your post I thought you were sitting on 1,600,000 points and I wondered why you weren't using them. I talked to an owner at the hot tub once who said they had over a million MR points but her husband didn't like hotels. They also have children and grandchildren. I told her I could help her use them :D

Can I ask. . .when you turn in the timeshares and figure the cost of each MR point what do you come up with?

Well Custom House maintenance fee was $1550 in 2015 for 125k points. That is 1.24 cents a point.

I personally value Marriott Reward points at around .7 cents each and personally would never convert my week to points just because in my opinion is not worth it at more than .7 cents each. But there are some properties out there where you can make out even at a 1.24 cent cost.

I am like some of the previously mentioned people and sitting on millions of points - all from work travel though. I only redeem them if I get more than .7 cents a point in value out of them.
 

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Do December purchases count on the Visa? I tried to spend a ton in November, but I could also put more on my December purchases if they'll count for 2015. I am at 73 nights just 2 night away from that platinum status.
 

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We're sitting on a boatload of Points from spends on the Marriott VISA, haven't exchanged any Weeks for them since it was required as a condition of sale for the first year of use when we purchased our Weeks.

Contrary to everything the MRP-savvy folks say here on TUG I couldn't care less how much they're worth in dollars because as far as I see it, they were a freebie for something we'd be doing anyway (using a VISA.) We've used some for a few Travel Packages and - horror of hours! - individual hotel nights. Eventually we plan on using the bulk of them for major trips after Don retires. If they devalue further in the meantime, oh well.
 

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Do December purchases count on the Visa? I tried to spend a ton in November, but I could also put more on my December purchases if they'll count for 2015. I am at 73 nights just 2 night away from that platinum status.

My cutoff date was December 20th. Not sure what yours may be. Give MRP a call.

Is it worth it to you to purchase 2 nights at a low cost Marriott near you using points or cash ?

The reason why I'm asking this is because it was one of the scenarios the Marriott Rep and I discussed when I was trying to get more nights. There is a $76/night Marriott two towns over from me in Bedford, Ma. I gave it some thought, but decided against it. If so, the stay has to be done by Dec. 31st, I think. Maybe Jan 1st, but am not sure.

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My cutoff date was December 20th. Not sure what yours may be. Give MRP a call.

Is it worth it to you to purchase 2 nights at a low cost Marriott near you using points or cash ?

The reason why I'm asking this is because it was one of the scenarios the Marriott Rep and I discussed when I was trying to get more nights. There is a $76/night Marriott two towns over from me in Bedford, Ma. I gave it some thought, but decided against it. If so, the stay has to be done by Dec. 31st, I think. Maybe Jan 1st, but am not sure.

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Good idea. I noticed there is a catagory 1 hotel for 7500 points a night so I thought about using 15000 points to get there but I can't decide if it is worth it.

I would need to really hurry and do some spending as my visa bill date closes on the 27th. We thought the 3 nights my husband stayed at a Marriott in September/December would count but since a corporate account paid the bill they won't let us count those :( I love your picture, I'm a proud nurse too. Well now a nurse practitioner
 

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I am five nights short of Platinum this year. We are going to Europe next year. It would have been good to be Platinum, but I think I will get similar benefits by being Gold. Not sure how much the Premier Silver would have been worth since we are flying United. We will already get one free bag by flying intercontinental. My wife was Premier Silver a couple years back and it did get us one upgrade, on Copa Airlines. Not sure it would have helped get us both upgraded with as stingy as they are with upgrades these days.
 

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Good idea. I noticed there is a catagory 1 hotel for 7500 points a night so I thought about using 15000 points to get there but I can't decide if it is worth it.

I would need to really hurry and do some spending as my visa bill date closes on the 27th. We thought the 3 nights my husband stayed at a Marriott in September/December would count but since a corporate account paid the bill they won't let us count those :( I love your picture, I'm a proud nurse too. Well now a nurse practitioner

Yes, decisions and which road to take !

The photo is a throw back to when "we wore the cap".

I was an RN & NP (FNP & then just AP) for many years. Then I went to law school (because NP/Grad school wasn't enough torture :D ). Did medical-legal/mega-pharma work for several years. I retired early and just do pharmaceutical, adverse events, consulting. I do maintain my NP license. All this means is that I have more time to enjoy timesharing travel now.
I enjoy your posts.

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Yes, decisions and which road to take !

The photo is a throw back to when "we wore the cap".

I was an RN & NP (FNP & then just AP) for many years. Then I went to law school (because NP/Grad school wasn't enough torture :D ). Did medical-legal/mega-pharma work for several years. I retired early and just do pharmaceutical, adverse events, consulting. I do maintain my NP license. All this means is that I have more time to enjoy timesharing travel now.
I enjoy your posts.

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Beaglemom,

Wow, you've done it all. I worked in a law firm for many years as a LNC but mostly just teach at a University now and consult on the side. I do teach forensic nursing and include the LNC role in my course. I am currently helping with a case and looking for an expert Anesthesiologist right now. If you know of one, please share by a pm, I definitely can't use anyone local :)

My husband went to law school and watching him go through that torture was enough for me! I need these timeshares to force him time to take a vacation :) Merry Christmas!!
 
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Beaglemom,

Wow, you've done it all. I worked in a law firm for many years as a LNC but mostly just teach at a University now and consult on the side. I do teach forensic nursing and include the LNC role in my course. I am currently helping with a case and looking for an expert Anesthesiologist right now. If you know of one, please share by a pm, I definitely can't use anyone local :)

My husband went to law school and watching him go through that torture was enough for me! I need these timeshares to force him time to take a vacation :) Merry Christmas!!

You've done it all as well.

I thought the adjustment to retirement would be a lot harder, but it's been a breeze. Love getting up when I want to and staying up late. Enjoy consulting and selecting cases of interest "when the spirit moves me".
Now I fit consulting in around my timeshare and hotel travels.

Forgot to say that I fractured my L. tibial plateau and tore my meniscus 3+ years ago. That took a lot out of me, but I am mostly recovered.


All the anesthesiologists I know/knew have retired, so cannot recommend or refer. Sorry. If I think of anyone, I will PM.

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I am five nights short of Platinum this year. We are going to Europe next year. It would have been good to be Platinum, but I think I will get similar benefits by being Gold. Not sure how much the Premier Silver would have been worth since we are flying United. We will already get one free bag by flying intercontinental. My wife was Premier Silver a couple years back and it did get us one upgrade, on Copa Airlines. Not sure it would have helped get us both upgraded with as stingy as they are with upgrades these days.

I agree with you. Thanks for the advice dioxide. I have always looked at your posts as very valuable with in-depth knowledge of the Marriott systems. I hope you are having a nice Christmas.
 

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You've done it all as well.

I thought the adjustment to retirement would be a lot harder, but it's been a breeze. Love getting up when I want to and staying up late. Enjoy consulting and selecting cases of interest "when the spirit moves me".
Now I fit consulting in around my timeshare and hotel travels.

Forgot to say that I fractured my L. tibial plateau and tore my meniscus 3+ years ago. That took a lot out of me, but I am mostly recovered.


All the anesthesiologists I know/knew have retired, so cannot recommend or refer. Sorry. If I think of anyone, I will PM.

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Oh that sounds so nice to be able to travel and work around your schedule if it sounds like a good fit. I hope to be in your shoes in 25-30 years. :)
 

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Who would have thought!

Due to unexpected business travel this year I am ending up with 90 nights, and over 290K in points. Wow Wee! I even gave up my MR card, but reapplied mid year! Skyrocketed to Platinum. Never would have imagined.


Lifetime Status

Nights 321
Points 399,614

How did that happen?


Anyway I know I have seen the metric somewhere mentioned many times in the past. This leads me to my next question. What is the monetary value of a MR point. Something close to 1 cent per point? Whoever has the most accurate value please reply.
 
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Due to unexpected business travel this year I am ending up with 90 nights, and over 290K in points. Wow Wee! I even gave up my MR card, but reapplied mid year! Skyrocketed to Platinum. Never would have imagined.


Lifetime Status

Nights 321
Points 399,614

How did that happen?


Anyway I know I have seen the metric somewhere mentioned many times in the past. This leads me to my next question. What is the monetary value of a MR point. Something close to 1 cent per point? Whoever has the most accurate value please reply.

1 cent per point is probably the average if you are straight up redeeming for a hotel stay. Though many domestic stays are not worth using MR points for. You can get well over 1.5 cents by using them for international travel, especially to Europe when you convert them to a travel package. Use the air miles you get from the travel packages for business class flights and you can probably get over 2 cents per point out of them.
 

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Let me rephrase the question

I need to decide if it is worth it to convert Marriott Reward points to True Blue, or Virgin Elevate points. How do I find out the value of a MR point? It is most likely about 1 cent per point? But I need to be precise in order to make an educated and accurate decision.


Conversely I am asking the same question of the TrueBlue , Virgin America Boards.
 

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..... I am like some of the previously mentioned people and sitting on millions of points - all from work travel though. I only redeem them if I get more than .7 cents a point in value out of them.


OUCH! I want to get at least 1.5 cents before I pay with points. Here is the Fairfield I stay at in Dallas when visiting family. As you can see it is about 1.8 cents per point.

10,000 points for stay
179.67 USD (includes tax)

With the Marriott card and elite bonus, it's not worth paying with points at only .07 cents value IMO.
 

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Say for example it is 7/10ths of a penny. This would be expressed at .007 for mathematical purposes in order to arrive at a monetary value in dollars and cents.

So 100,000 MR points would be valued at $700.

.007 x 100,000 = 700

Agree, disagree. Thoughts comments?
 

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Say for example it is 7/10ths of a penny. This would be expressed at .007 for mathematical purposes in order to arrive at a monetary value in dollars and cents.

So 100,000 MR points would be valued at $700.

.007 x 100,000 = 700

Agree, disagree. Thoughts comments?

Those numbers are right, and it would probably be more clear to put it as $0.007 per point. That makes it clear that you aren't even talking about a whole penny.

100,000 points at $0.007 per point works out to $700 alright, but I don't agree that is a good value to get when redeeming MR points.
 

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I think you should still get 5 elite nights for your reward stay. It should be based on the nights you stayed, not the nights you actually paid points for.

One good thing is that roll over nights also count toward your lifetime nights. So it is like getting them twice. I have lots of nights toward lifetime status but are not even close when it comes to lifetime points.

You do not get Elite Nights for Reward nights. Sorry.
 

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Back to the topic:

This is my report.

Right now Silver Lifetime Status
Nights 482
Points3,233,336

18 more nights and I'll be lifetime Gold. That's excellent!

This year, ending tomorrow, I'm platinum with 89 nights for 2015.
That means a rollover of 14 nights. Is that right?
 

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Back to the topic:

This is my report.

Right now Silver Lifetime Status
Nights 482
Points3,233,336

18 more nights and I'll be lifetime Gold. That's excellent!

This year, ending tomorrow, I'm platinum with 89 nights for 2015.
That means a rollover of 14 nights. Is that right?

You will only roll over 14 nights if you didn't have any roll over points from 2014 in to 2015. If you did, subtract those nights from the 14 and that is how many you will roll over in to 2016. If your roll over from 2014 in to 2015 was more than 14 nights, you won't get any roll over in to 2016.
 

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I had 89 this year, just under 50 last year but was still granted gold. The "gift" last year doesn't affect rollover, right? I will have 14 this year?
 
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