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2015-2016 Marriott Rewards Year-End Changeover, Status and Rollover Nights

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Status Tiers in the Marriott Rewards program are based on the number of Elite Nights earned; Lifetime MR status is based on cumulative Nights and Points. Whatever status level you've earned as of 12/31/15 will remain in effect until 2/28/17 unless you attain a higher level in the interim:

Silver = 10 Nights
Gold = 50 Nights
Platinum = 75 Nights

Lifetime Silver = 250 Nights and 1.2 million Points
Lifetime Gold = 500 Nights and 1.6 million Points
Lifetime Platinum = 750 Nights and 2 million Points


There's also a Platinum Premier status tier which consists of a certain percentage of the highest-earning Platinum members. The requirements change year-to-year and any benefits are unpublished.

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Rollover Nights are all those accumulated above the amount required for your attained status tier. The equation to figure out how many Rollover Nights should be posted to your account when the year-end changeover is done, based on info in the "2015 Nights Detail" box in your account, is:

"2015 Total" Nights Earned this Year
<less> "2014 rollover" Nights (from 2014 to 2015)
<less> Number of Nights required for Status held as of 12/31/15 (10 Silver, 50 Gold, 75 Plat)
<equals> Rollover Nights for 2015 into 2016


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*See these pages on marriott.com: Member Benefits At A Glance and Elite Rollover Nights and Lifetime Status and Expiration Guidelines.

*Note Marriott announced in advance a new policy, that effective 2/1/16 the expiration terms&conditions will be enforced.

*Marriott might grant status based on something other than actual Elite Nights earned; e.g. a Silver with 45 Nights might be granted Gold, or, a Platinum who hasn't reached 75 Nights might have that Platinum extended. Sometimes there's no rhyme or reason to it. If you're one of the "lucky" ones remember that it could be a double-edge sword because your Rollover Nights will be counted based on the status that's extended and not what's actually earned. For example, if you've accumulated 45 Nights then your status should officially be Silver with 35 Rollover Nights, but if Marriott grants you Gold then no Nights will roll over (because 45 is less than the 50 Gold requirement.)

*Year-end changeover and Rollover Nights accounting will take place during January but each may not take place on the same day - watch your accounts and feel free to give the rest of us a heads-up here if/when you're seeing changes. During the past few years there have been incorrect Status and/or Rollover Nights notifications generated by preliminary changeovers, so it's a good idea to take a screen shot or printout of your "Account Activity" and "Nights Detail" account information on Dec 31st, just in case.
 
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More Questions on Rollover Nights

I took the time and read through all the informative Tug posts on rollover nights, but still need help. I read through many on the Marriott Rewards Insider site as well and the confusing MRP site, but still have questions

Right now I am silver elite with 36 nights towards Gold. 4 of those were rolled over from last year.

Questions are:

- Will 32 or 36 be rolled over towards the 50 required for Gold next year ?

- Where can I find clear and succinct information on how rollover and lifetime status work ? I don't seem to be "getting it".

- Any helpful hints on advancing status ? I have two Platinum units which give me 250,000 MRPs annually, have an MRP Visa which I load up with just about all purchases and always book Marriott when I can.

Thanking you in advance, I remain,
Unclear, possibly obtuse.
 
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Take a look at Sue's thread about this topic.

[Link disabled after threads merged.]

You should have 22 nights roll over. You will only roll over what is above your current silver level (10 Nights). Then you have to subtract the roll over nights that were from 2014.
 
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Thank you for your help. Both posts most helpful. I think the Marriott site is the one that threw me.
It gets worse.

I just called Marriott Rewards and they told me that 22 would roll over.

I called back and was told that 20 would roll over.

With this trajectory, I am afraid to call back again. :D


Marriott works in mysterious ways.


I will stay tuned and see how this plays out.


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I've been doing some editing while you're reading, hope it doesn't confuse you further. :)

I agree with Dioxide, if your numbers don't change before year-end you should be Silver Elite through Feb '17 with 22 Rollover Nights:

36 = 2015 Total" Nights Earned this Year
<less 4 = 32> "2014 rollover" Nights (from 2014 to 2015)
<less 10> Number of Nights required for Status held as of 12/31/15 (10 Silver, 50 Gold, 75 Plat)
<equals 22> Rollover Nights for 2015 into 2016


The 22 Rollover Nights will give you a good start toward attaining Gold at some point in 2016 if your earnings are similar to this year.
 

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I am points rich, but nights poor.


Good to know that Marriott will start counting rewards stays toward elite nights. Yay ! I have 5 nights (4 plus the free 5th) booked at the Key West Beachside in February. I think I'll only get stay credits for 4, but that's just fine.

I have a week stay coming up at Mayo Clinic, Jacksonville, for cash, in March.


UPDATE:

Redemption Stay Credit

Starting Nov. 1, 2015 Marriott Rewards and The Ritz-Carlton Rewards members will earn Elite night credit on redemption nights paid for with points.


NEW Cash + Points

Coming in early 2016, the NEW Cash + Points will give Rewards members the flexibility to use a mix of cash and points to cover single or multi-night redemption stays.
 
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I think you should still get 5 elite nights for your reward stay. It should be based on the nights you stayed, not the nights you actually paid points for.

One good thing is that roll over nights also count toward your lifetime nights. So it is like getting them twice. I have lots of nights toward lifetime status but are not even close when it comes to lifetime points.
 

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Try this...

When do they notify you that you have reached a certain status? I have the nights and points for lifetime gold but have never heard from them.

1. Sign in.
2. My Account.
3. Account Overview.
4. Lifetime Status.
 

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Marriott elite members lifetime vs SPG

It is interesting how the SPG will be melted with the MR system.
I will have about 530 nights and exceeded 2 million points. I will have the right then to the status Gold lifetime.
Since 2011 I have the gold SPG lifetime. For me, nothing changes.
But when I will be platinum lifetime, I will have the same privileges as platinum even in former SPG?
It is not a minor detail. To be Gold spg, enough that the nights with MR grant the silver level.
I hope to create an even more exclusive for MR, otherwise it will be increasingly difficult to share the privileges platinum with SPG platinum (25 nights)

Paolo
 

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so weird. I got Gold one year and they keep renewing it! I have a M CC but have never had anywhere near 50 nights since 3 years. Also FYI--Hilton is matching Gold status thru Dec 31.
 

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So, I spoke to an excellent MRP person who was able to clarify a few things on upgrading to the Gold status thingie. We discussed a couple options and I am going to take "a challenge" after January 1st. Will call back and ask for one.


Did not discuss liftetime, but this is where I am at the moment:

Lifetime Status

Nghts 58
Points 1,602,375

I am not sure what this means, but will ask MRP next time I call. If anyone wants to explain this to me (using small words and sentences :confused:) I would appreciate it.

I am progressing !
 

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So, I spoke to an excellent MRP person who was able to clarify a few things on upgrading to the Gold status thingie. We discussed a couple options and I am going to take "a challenge" after January 1st. Will call back and ask for one.


Did not discuss liftetime, but this is where I am at the moment:

Lifetime Status

Nghts 58
Points 1,602,375

I am not sure what this means, but will ask MRP next time I call. If anyone wants to explain this to me (using small words and sentences :confused:) I would appreciate it.

I am progressing !
The qualification criteria are detailed in
http://www.marriott.co.uk/marriott-rewards/member-benefits/lifetime-status.mi
Lifetime Silver Elite
250 nights + 1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 nights + 1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 nights + 2 million points
 

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I have the opposite problem, tons of nights not enough points. Don't think I'll live long enough to make lifetime platinum

Same here. Passed 1000 nights but still 243K from Lifetime Platinum points. Will probably make it if I work three or four more years with current travel patterns.

I regret the hundreds of nights stayed in Residence Inns through the years where you only get half the points. They are my last choice now when choosing a Marriott. I like Homewood Suites much better anyway if I want an extended stay property.

Sheila
 

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Also note, if you transfer points out, those are subtracted from your lifetime points. Though the person getting them transferred in, it adds to their lifetime points.
 

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So, I spoke to an excellent MRP person who was able to clarify a few things on upgrading to the Gold status thingie. We discussed a couple options and I am going to take "a challenge" after January 1st. Will call back and ask for one.


Did not discuss liftetime, but this is where I am at the moment:

Lifetime Status

Nghts 58
Points 1,602,375

I am not sure what this means, but will ask MRP next time I call. If anyone wants to explain this to me (using small words and sentences :confused:) I would appreciate it.

I am progressing !

?? How do you only have 58 nights?
 

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?? How do you only have 58 nights?

Good question.

Let me start by explaining why I have so many points, but so little nights.

Hopefully, this will make sense unless I'm missing something. Yes, my points:nights ratio is lopsided.

I have 2 platinum Marriott Custom House weeks. I exchange them for MRPs every year, 250,000 total. I've had them for 5 years now. My "S.E". (spousal equivalent, aka Doug) has a silver Ocean Watch unit, which gives 75,000 pts. These are transferred over to my account. I received 50,000 points when I signed up for the MRPs Visa. I use the card as much as I can.

I've used a lot of points for hotel stays, but they did not count towards nights until this past November. I have earned a few nights for each $3k spent on the card

Hopefully, my accumulated nights will go up in the next few years now that reward stays will count as nights. My Marriott stays are almost always on redeemed MRPs.
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Weird scenario ...

Despite having only 52 nights in 2015, apparently Marriott has decided to renew my Platinum Elite status. Go figure.

I see this message when I logon to Marriott.com

"Congratulations! Your Platinum Elite status has been renewed."

We do spend an awful lot on our Marriott Rewards VISA, so perhaps that has something to do with it.
 
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Same here. I'm not even sure how I got Platinum last year, but see that it has been renewed, despite not even reaching Gold this year. We too use the Marriott Visa heavily. Best part about platinum for me is the Premier status on United...got me into first class on one flight over Thanksgiving and me plus one of my companions on the return flight. I'm not sure how I'll ever fly economy again!
 

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Nice- renewed here too, even though short on the number of nights. Been burning the VISA lately as well; kitchen renovations are $$$$, as we've been finding out.
 

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... During the past few years there have been incorrect Status and/or Rollover Nights notifications generated by preliminary changeovers, so it's a good idea to take a screen shot or printout of your "Account Activity" and "Nights Detail" account information on Dec 31st, just in case.

Repeating what was posted in the OP, these December "Congratulations, Platinum renewed!" messages that show up one time in online MR accounts are similar to other errors in other years. It could be that things work out exactly as these messages indicate but I'd wait until the final accounting is done in January to be sure.

Flyertalk also has their annual thread about these glitches and in it a few folks mentioned a new parameter advised by reps- "if I have 160 nights over a three year period, they extend the Platinum." We'll have to see if it plays out.
 

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I've used a lot of points for hotel stays, but they did not count towards nights until this past November. I have earned a few nights for each $3k spent on the card

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I hope you've used a lot of those MR points on some nice trips!

When I first looked at your post I thought you were sitting on 1,600,000 points and I wondered why you weren't using them. I talked to an owner at the hot tub once who said they had over a million MR points but her husband didn't like hotels. They also have children and grandchildren. I told her I could help her use them :D

Can I ask. . .when you turn in the timeshares and figure the cost of each MR point what do you come up with?
 
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