coppersmom1
TUG Member
Hi- I wanted to post some warnings of a company who seems to have many names, addresses and e-bay usernames. Unfortunately I purchased from these people on e-bay, had more problems and delays than I could count and now find out that they were out and out lying. First let me list the names and cities I know they have addresses in:
-We Collect Timeshares LLC
I think 2 addresses in Olympia WA and I found an address in Tumwater, as well as a PO Box in Olympia
-Cornerstone Closings LLC (in house escrow co and old e-bay username)
Olympia WA
-GoldCrownTimeshares (current e-bay username, as far as I know)
-TimesharesByWholesale (former e-bay username)
They were to pay a tax bill for me (CA timeshare, so billed separately from Maintenance fees), which they didn’t do- I got stuck with a delinquent bill, even though I have numerous emails with them promising to pay. Most of the taxes, if you look at the dates, were not my responsibility. They also promised us a partial refund (I also have emails regarding that) due to all the problems. I saved MANY of these emails with promises in them.
Now let me tell the story of the previous owner. When they went to the “seminar” they told them they rent out the units inexpensively to cover maintenance fees etc.. Since they had paid the scamming “upfront fee” companies to sell before and nothing happened, they thought We Collect Timeshares was a good way to “get rid of” their weeks (CA coastal weeks!). It would just be a “burden” to their heirs they were told…the usual spiel. They paid We Collect Timeshares approximately $3000 to take the weeks off their hands. Months later they tell them they have sold the weeks (one to me) which they didn’t understand. When they asked how it ended up being sold they were then told that “occasionally” they’ll sell a few weeks (ha! They all go on e-bay). I know this mans story because I knew his name and business from emails sent to both of us. I looked him up online, took a chance and called him.
To try and tell the whole story of the problems while in escrow would take me writing a book, so I’ll try to give an overview. People quitting so your “contacts” are gone and the emails you send never read, calling and never being told your “contacts” are gone and no return phone calls, our file sitting “somewhere” for at least 2 months untouched, mistakes in the paperwork causing SD county to keep sending the paperwork back. Best of all I was told they finally had a “contact” that helped them get it all corrected- that person was the previous owner! They told me it was someone at the county. The truth as I know it is that the previous owner took it to a friend and had him work the kinks out of the paperwork then the owners did the work at the recorders office themselves, just to get it out of their name. I wondered why more than one week owned by these people managed to be done the same day! (Their escrow person telling me all of this).
The escrow person bad mouthed the previous owners to me over and over again, they are troublemakers etc. I’m sorry but I spoke to these people on the phone and all they wanted, after PAYING these people to take the timeshare…was to have it OUT of their name. As it ended up they were still “stuck” with it and ended up doing much of the work. I also did a lot of work on some parts to try and expedite the closing process and find out tax information. Once I had someone who would talk to me- most of what came out of her mouth, and most of what was in all the emails, were pure lies.
Now I know…the Company is not licensed by the WA Real Estate Commission, and that office is compiling a complaint file against them. I plan on filing a complaint with the Attorney General and the BBB and anyone else I can file a complaint with. They need to be stopped.
I have my story and the offer of a written complaint by the previous owner. If anyone else wishes to help in filing complaints, add a complaint of their own, or even help ME in figuring out how to stop these people- please PM me. Please, if ANY of you with so much knowledge can help me with this, I’d appreciate it.
The worst for me was finding out I bought something that was not even supposed to be SOLD! I felt horrible, as if I had done something wrong. The other owner told me his entire story, very calmly and matter of fact. He is a businessman and I trust that he is telling me the truth- he has no reason to lie. I have no reason to lie. However someone who lies to people in seminars (yes I know the whole postcard co issue) to the point of saying they aren’t selling the units? THAT is lying. To me it seems like fraud. Those of you who know some about law…is it fraud?
If the latest e-bay username starts getting negative feedback they will just change it again- I found 3 or 4 usernames. I had to tell this story. Please stay away from these people if possible. Not only due to the lying but also due to the trouble you will likely have getting your purchases closed. It took us 6 months and things were not finished as we were promised they would be.
-We Collect Timeshares LLC
I think 2 addresses in Olympia WA and I found an address in Tumwater, as well as a PO Box in Olympia
-Cornerstone Closings LLC (in house escrow co and old e-bay username)
Olympia WA
-GoldCrownTimeshares (current e-bay username, as far as I know)
-TimesharesByWholesale (former e-bay username)
They were to pay a tax bill for me (CA timeshare, so billed separately from Maintenance fees), which they didn’t do- I got stuck with a delinquent bill, even though I have numerous emails with them promising to pay. Most of the taxes, if you look at the dates, were not my responsibility. They also promised us a partial refund (I also have emails regarding that) due to all the problems. I saved MANY of these emails with promises in them.
Now let me tell the story of the previous owner. When they went to the “seminar” they told them they rent out the units inexpensively to cover maintenance fees etc.. Since they had paid the scamming “upfront fee” companies to sell before and nothing happened, they thought We Collect Timeshares was a good way to “get rid of” their weeks (CA coastal weeks!). It would just be a “burden” to their heirs they were told…the usual spiel. They paid We Collect Timeshares approximately $3000 to take the weeks off their hands. Months later they tell them they have sold the weeks (one to me) which they didn’t understand. When they asked how it ended up being sold they were then told that “occasionally” they’ll sell a few weeks (ha! They all go on e-bay). I know this mans story because I knew his name and business from emails sent to both of us. I looked him up online, took a chance and called him.
To try and tell the whole story of the problems while in escrow would take me writing a book, so I’ll try to give an overview. People quitting so your “contacts” are gone and the emails you send never read, calling and never being told your “contacts” are gone and no return phone calls, our file sitting “somewhere” for at least 2 months untouched, mistakes in the paperwork causing SD county to keep sending the paperwork back. Best of all I was told they finally had a “contact” that helped them get it all corrected- that person was the previous owner! They told me it was someone at the county. The truth as I know it is that the previous owner took it to a friend and had him work the kinks out of the paperwork then the owners did the work at the recorders office themselves, just to get it out of their name. I wondered why more than one week owned by these people managed to be done the same day! (Their escrow person telling me all of this).
The escrow person bad mouthed the previous owners to me over and over again, they are troublemakers etc. I’m sorry but I spoke to these people on the phone and all they wanted, after PAYING these people to take the timeshare…was to have it OUT of their name. As it ended up they were still “stuck” with it and ended up doing much of the work. I also did a lot of work on some parts to try and expedite the closing process and find out tax information. Once I had someone who would talk to me- most of what came out of her mouth, and most of what was in all the emails, were pure lies.
Now I know…the Company is not licensed by the WA Real Estate Commission, and that office is compiling a complaint file against them. I plan on filing a complaint with the Attorney General and the BBB and anyone else I can file a complaint with. They need to be stopped.
I have my story and the offer of a written complaint by the previous owner. If anyone else wishes to help in filing complaints, add a complaint of their own, or even help ME in figuring out how to stop these people- please PM me. Please, if ANY of you with so much knowledge can help me with this, I’d appreciate it.
The worst for me was finding out I bought something that was not even supposed to be SOLD! I felt horrible, as if I had done something wrong. The other owner told me his entire story, very calmly and matter of fact. He is a businessman and I trust that he is telling me the truth- he has no reason to lie. I have no reason to lie. However someone who lies to people in seminars (yes I know the whole postcard co issue) to the point of saying they aren’t selling the units? THAT is lying. To me it seems like fraud. Those of you who know some about law…is it fraud?
If the latest e-bay username starts getting negative feedback they will just change it again- I found 3 or 4 usernames. I had to tell this story. Please stay away from these people if possible. Not only due to the lying but also due to the trouble you will likely have getting your purchases closed. It took us 6 months and things were not finished as we were promised they would be.