1 in 4 rules

[easyrider]

So does the 1 in 4 rules means that we can exchange into a resort on year 1 and then again 3 years latter ? Does the 1 in 4 rule apply to renting from an owner ?

Bill

 

[NiteMaire]

So does the 1 in 4 rules means that we can exchange into a resort on year 1 and then again 3 years latter ?

I don't know, but I've always taken it to mean the following: if I checked in July 1, 2021, then I can exchange again for a check-in July 1, 2025 or later. Then again, maybe it's January 1, 2025. I don't know.

Does the 1 in 4 rule apply to renting from an owner ?

No.

While it applies to exchange platforms, it applies to each platform individually. For instance if you are a member of RCI, II, and SFX, you can exchange into that resort 3/4 years without issue (1x with each exchange platform assuming the resort is in all 3).

 

[tschwa2]

RCI is typically the only exchange/rental platform that has a 1 in x rule. If you are booking outside of rci, it generally would not apply.

 

[Eric B]

I think it depends on the resort. For example, Vidanta's latest version of 1 in 4 on RCI was a check to see if there had been a reservation made in that name by any means in the last 4 years by calendar day, and I believe it included owner's usage or rentals.

I kind of expect that these restrictions will ease up in a year or so when travel demand subsides some.

 

[easyrider]

I don't know, but I've always taken it to mean the following: if I checked in July 1, 2021, then I can exchange again for a check-in July 1, 2025 or later. Then again, maybe it's January 1, 2025. I don't know.

No.

While it applies to exchange platforms, it applies to each platform individually. For instance if you are a member of RCI, II, and SFX, you can exchange into that resort 3/4 years without issue (1x with each exchange platform assuming the resort is in all 3).

So I could exchange through SFX then the next year RCI ? Thanks, that helps.

Bill

 

[easyrider]

I think it depends on the resort. For example, Vidanta's latest version of 1 in 4 on RCI was a check to see if there had been a reservation made in that name by any means in the last 4 years by calendar day, and I believe it included owner's usage or rentals.

I kind of expect that these restrictions will ease up in a year or so when travel demand subsides some.

Bummer. Vidanta is where I was thinking of exchanging or renting.

Bill

 

[NiteMaire]

For example, Vidanta's latest version of 1 in 4 on RCI was a check to see if there had been a reservation made in that name by any means in the last 4 years by calendar day, and I believe it included owner's usage or rentals.

I'd be mildly (not completely) surprised if Vidanta actually did this. Is this new? I understood it was enforced through the exchange platforms...also understood if you have a spouse/partner and the reservation was in their name, then you could get more than 1 in 4 since they were going by the name on the reservation.

So I could exchange through SFX then the next year RCI ? Thanks, that helps.

I would have said yes...but then I saw @Eric B posted something different. Maybe you could be the TUG test case. We exchanged plenty of times in the past (we would go 2x/year) through II. We were always told about the 1 in 4, but it didn't apply to II exchanges at the time. I think II now has the same (or they did at one time).

There's only one way to know. Someone on TUG could press their luck and get reservations/exchanges in back-to-back years using different platforms (or renting from owner), then let us know.

 

[ilene13]

Interval does not have it. We exchanged into the GL 5 years in a row--pre-pandemic and pre-ridiculous resort fees!

 

[pharmacistking]

I'd be mildly (not completely) surprised if Vidanta actually did this. Is this new? I understood it was enforced through the exchange platforms...also understood if you have a spouse/partner and the reservation was in their name, then you could get more than 1 in 4 since they were going by the name on the reservation.

I would have said yes...but then I saw @Eric B posted something different. Maybe you could be the TUG test case. We exchanged plenty of times in the past (we would go 2x/year) through II. We were always told about the 1 in 4, but it didn't apply to II exchanges at the time. I think II now has the same (or they did at one time).

There's only one way to know. Someone on TUG could press their luck and get reservations/exchanges in back-to-back years using different platforms (or renting from owner), then let us know.

I doubt this is enforced. I have concurrent exchanges in RM and NV via SFX and I don't see issues. I'm sure it's a case by case or platform by platform. They want your $$$

 

[NiteMaire]

Interval does not have it. We exchanged into the GL 5 years in a row--pre-pandemic and pre-ridiculous resort fees!

Thanks for the clarification. I remember there was mention of II possibly doing the 1/4, but didn't know if they had since we vacation elsewhere now. At one point, we exchanged into GL 6 times in 2.5 years. Then the massive resort fees hit, and we haven't been back. Even with the current (I had to look as this piqued my curiosity) fees, I can exchange into a 2BR for less than $1400 (MF, exchange fee, resort fee). It's a phenomenal price for what you get; I just can't swallow the $700 resort fee. I may get over it one day and go back.

I doubt this is enforced. I have concurrent exchanges in RM and NV via SFX and I don't see issues. I'm sure it's a case by case or platform by platform. They want your $$$

Yea, I misread @Eric B post. I agree it's by platform as well.

 

[pittle]

The 1-in rules change regularly and with exchange companies. It has been off and on for years. It must be back on now that people are traveling again.

Since the majority of the availability is Vidanta owned units, they may be trying to get some "fresh meat". As we know, many exchangers have gone multiple years and no longer go to the "informational" meetings. The excessive usage fees help reimburse Vidanta for the MF they are not getting from owners who do not go. It takes a lot of money to keep the place up.

 

[Eric B]

To be clear, this is what the urgent information in RCI says about booking Vidanta, taken from the listing for Grand Luxxe NV (RB71):

The resort will reflect the RCI reservation 72 hours after it has been confirmed. You can only confirm Vidanta once in a period of 4 years (applies per Anniversary Year) and multiple (two or more reservations in the same week) or consecutive units (2 or more units confirmed, where upon check out of one of them there is immediate check in of a next unit) are not allowed in any of its combinations. All of these rules apply to all Vidanta IDs (Rule by Total Group). This means RCI members can travel to any Vidanta ID only once every 4 years staying one week and in only one unit. Rules are verified by name and membership - violations will be canceled. Resort does not allow reservations with Guest Certificates.

 

[pharmacistking]

To be clear, this is what the urgent information in RCI says about booking Vidanta, taken from the listing for Grand Luxxe NV (RB71):

The resort will reflect the RCI reservation 72 hours after it has been confirmed. You can only confirm Vidanta once in a period of 4 years (applies per Anniversary Year) and multiple (two or more reservations in the same week) or consecutive units (2 or more units confirmed, where upon check out of one of them there is immediate check in of a next unit) are not allowed in any of its combinations. All of these rules apply to all Vidanta IDs (Rule by Total Group). This means RCI members can travel to any Vidanta ID only once every 4 years staying one week and in only one unit. Rules are verified by name and membership - violations will be canceled. Resort does not allow reservations with Guest Certificates.

I do believe this applies only in the RCI system. I am a RCI member but use SFX for Vidanta.

 

[Eric B]

I do believe this applies only in the RCI system. I am a RCI member but use SFX for Vidanta.

Roger that; I don't believe the restriction exists for SFX exchanges into Vidanta. That being said, I wouldn't try doing an SFX exchange followed by an RCI exchange - I believe they would cancel the latter, though it's not entirely clear what is meant with the verification by membership.