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Westin St. John - Sunset Bay Phase Mandatory?

Discussion in 'Vistana Signature Experiences (formerly Starwood)' started by Adventureisoutthere, May 16, 2018.

  1. Adventureisoutthere

    Adventureisoutthere TUG Member

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    I see in the very thorough notes (thank you!) on the introduction forum that Westin St John Virgin Grand - Hillside is the only mandatory phase. The map of the resort lists Virgin Grand, but not Hillside. Is Hillside a location descriptor for Virgin Grand? Can anyone confirm is Sunset Bay is mandatory or not?


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    Hillside = Virgin Grand (Up on the hill above the main resort.)

    No Sunset Bay is not mandatory.
     
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    Thank you! Is there a way to delete my original post?


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    It's a good question - no reason to delete it.
     
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    Is there a resale WSJ SB listed somewhere?

    VGV = Hillside
    It is a hold over from when VGV was the only Timeshare phase.


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    There is a WSJ SB on eBay. Happy shopping :). I’m still trying to figure this all out! Ha!


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    I own 2 weeks in VGV - I would not own SB - we are happy Hill People.
    Thanks for the info.


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    If they deleted every thread where a person got their answer, there wouldn't be many threads. Also, when others come along with a similar question, it is already answered.
     
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    I just saw this. Funny that they list this as located in St Thomas USVI. This is stated incorrectly twice - they don’t even get location correct! (Red flag)

    $1100 MF for a 2Bd? Is this correct? Seems low... Our MFs for a 2Bd TH in VGV is more than twice this. ($2400)
    I wonder is this is based on 2018 MFs that were discounted due to H.Irma.

    These are 148.1K HomeResort Options - not StarOptions. SOs do not transfer upon resale. Can only use SB phase.

    There is no resort transfer fee of $25.

    Property taxes are paid separately for SB? I wasn’t aware of this - I thought they were part of MFs. not sure though


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    It’s interesting to have an insider’s perspective!! Thank you for pointing out red flags to watch for!


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    I didn’t know if the answer to my question was obvious enough to delete. :)


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    Hi,
    New person here but I have been looking for a WSJ resale. This same seller had a week previously for sale on eBay and I double checked the maintenance fees and he said that the fees quoted were for this year which, as you said, were reduced because of the hurricane damage.

    I do have some follow-up questions, if you don't mind, as this week look attractive to me since it appears that we can float the week and we love St John and plan to visit annually.

    1) Home Resort Options - does that mean the points can only be used at WSJ?

    2) Did I get the part right about it being a floating week at WSJ?

    3) Is there anything about SB phase that would make this less attractive than other locations on the property?

    Thank you so much!
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    Thanks Gina!

    I'm looking for a St John vacation in a unit that has more than 1BR or Studio that isn't a fixed week. For now at least, we don't have any interest in trading for other resorts since we love St John and do vacation elsewhere as well.

    One more rookie question - how would I have know they were Home Resort Options vs Star Options as the post indicated....because it SB and not one of the other locations??

    Thank you!
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    Because SB section is a voluntary section at WSJ. Those type of units do not come with staroptions to use at other VSE resorts at the 8-month booking window. Only the Virgin Grand section is Manadatory and comes with staroptions when it is sold second hand.
     
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    Hi Jeannine,
    If you look through the sticky notes https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php...g-with-ii-3-rescinding-4-flex-options.205516/. Then introduction to Starwood/vistana, it will tell you which resorts are mandatory (eligible for star options) or voluntary (only eligible for home resort stays). I’m doing this from my phone, so it might not be 100% correct.


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    The SB resale can only be used at SB (not other WSJ phases) - or within II.

    Actually, the VGV 3Bd Plat+ has one of the cheapest (MF/SO) - if not the cheapest - in VSE.

    The eBay seller of SB if essentially lying about the MFs if they are using 2018 as their reference. Red Flag!

    If you are looking for a 1Bd at WSJ - only VGV has these.

    Having a car right outside our villa is critical for us - we rarely get down to main resort (and we are there for 2 weeks)
     
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    I can only speak for Westin St John Coral Villas Resale owner. Non-Mandatory. I can reserve one year out in my season. About April 1 thru December 15Ish. Weeks 17-50?

    With what is called my HomeOptions, I can reserve week 51,52,1-16 at 8 months along with every other StarPoints member. Except that my HomeOptions can ONLY be used in my Coral Vista phase of WSJ. No place else.

    I do not know if this rule also applies to Bay Vista and Sunset Bay.

    It make it a little bit more flexible then other resale Starwood Weeks.
     
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    Thanks everyone so much! I truly appreciate all you help and input.

    Yes - he is essentially lying about the maintenance fees and someone unfamiliar would be in for an unpleasant surprise.

    With the Home Options - if you have enough points, is it possible to use them for a studio but stay for longer than one week, dependent on availability?
     
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    Yes.
     
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