• The TUGBBS forums are completely free and open to the public and exist as the absolute best place for owners to get help and advice about their timeshares for more than 30 years!

    Join Tens of Thousands of other Owners just like you here to get any and all Timeshare questions answered 24 hours a day!
  • TUG started 30 years ago in October 1993 as a group of regular Timeshare owners just like you!

    Read about our 30th anniversary: Happy 30th Birthday TUG!
  • TUG has a YouTube Channel to produce weekly short informative videos on popular Timeshare topics!

    Free memberships for every 50 subscribers!

    Visit TUG on Youtube!
  • TUG has now saved timeshare owners more than $21,000,000 dollars just by finding us in time to rescind a new Timeshare purchase! A truly incredible milestone!

    Read more here: TUG saves owners more than $21 Million dollars
  • Sign up to get the TUG Newsletter for free!

    60,000+ subscribing owners! A weekly recap of the best Timeshare resort reviews and the most popular topics discussed by owners!
  • Our official "end my sales presentation early" T-shirts are available again! Also come with the option for a free membership extension with purchase to offset the cost!

    All T-shirt options here!
  • A few of the most common links here on the forums for newbies and guests!

Weeks owned by Hawaii Collection

youppi

TUG Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2015
Messages
1,685
Reaction score
627
Points
224
Location
Montreal, Canada
Since 2016, in each annual meeting presentation document, Diamond Resorts publish the number of weeks owned by the Hawaii Collection in September of each year.

Here is a table of all years
upload_2019-11-8_20-45-29.png
 

Tamaradarann

TUG Review Crew: Expert
TUG Member
Joined
Aug 20, 2006
Messages
3,368
Reaction score
1,297
Points
548
Location
Honolulu, HI
Resorts Owned
HGVC South Beach, HGVC Las Vegas, HGVC Las Vegas on the Strip, HGVC Sea World, Misner Place
Since 2016, in each annual meeting presentation document, Diamond Resorts publish the number of weeks owned by the Hawaii Collection in September of each year.

Here is a table of all years
View attachment 14947

To me this data reveals something that I have feared about Diamond Resorts Collection Trust System. From 2016 to 2019 the number of actual Hawaii weeks owned in the Hawaii Collection has gone from approximately 55% of the total ownership to under 50% of the Collection. Therefore, the Collection named "Hawaii Collection" currently has less than 50% of the weeks actually in Hawaii. Therefore, Diamond is selling trust points in a Collection named "Hawaii Collection" with more weeks in locations other than Hawaii than in Hawaii. Now I know that Diamond is developing a timeshare at the Modern in Honolulu which will boost the actual Hawaii timeshare weeks in the Hawaii Collection, however, Diamond could also develop timeshares in other Western Locations and add them to the Hawaii Collection!
 

csalter2

TUG Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2008
Messages
1,968
Reaction score
554
Points
473
Location
Orange County, California
Resorts Owned
Marriott Ko Olina
Marriott Aruba Surf Club
Marriott Ocean Pointe
Diamond Resorts Gold
To me this data reveals something that I have feared about Diamond Resorts Collection Trust System. From 2016 to 2019 the number of actual Hawaii weeks owned in the Hawaii Collection has gone from approximately 55% of the total ownership to under 50% of the Collection. Therefore, the Collection named "Hawaii Collection" currently has less than 50% of the weeks actually in Hawaii. Therefore, Diamond is selling trust points in a Collection named "Hawaii Collection" with more weeks in locations other than Hawaii than in Hawaii. Now I know that Diamond is developing a timeshare at the Modern in Honolulu which will boost the actual Hawaii timeshare weeks in the Hawaii Collection, however, Diamond could also develop timeshares in other Western Locations and add them to the Hawaii Collection!

That’s what they’ve been doing for a while.
 

Tamaradarann

TUG Review Crew: Expert
TUG Member
Joined
Aug 20, 2006
Messages
3,368
Reaction score
1,297
Points
548
Location
Honolulu, HI
Resorts Owned
HGVC South Beach, HGVC Las Vegas, HGVC Las Vegas on the Strip, HGVC Sea World, Misner Place
That’s what they’ve been doing for a while.

The watering down of the Hawaii Collection with non Hawaiian resorts and the high maintenance were both issues that jumped out at us as red flags at Diamond Timeshare Presentations.
 
Top