Since both my schools play UCLA, I hope they are still in jail when the game is scheduled
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College sports team members should set the example of what a student athlete is as they do represent their college / university.
Jeeze, peep. It's not like they killed someone. Sure, they deserve a punishment, but in order of things...
This is a misdemeanor for which they should be "taken to the woodshed," not banished from the game.
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No, they were arrested for a crime which should have been handled by the jurisdiction in which the alleged crime was committed. It may be a misdemeanor in the US, but they weren't in the US. Why should they get a (relatively) free pass just because they bounce a ball around a court?Jeeze, peep. It's not like they killed someone. Sure, they deserve a punishment, but in order of things...
This is a misdemeanor for which they should be "taken to the woodshed," not banished from the game.
So are you ok with foreigners coming into our country, breaking our laws, and getting off scot free? In some parts of the world, men can effectively rape women and it is not against local law. Would you be ok with those same men committing that crime against someone here? Your child or grandchild? Of course not! But I bet those men would think our punishment for rape is "beyond rational". So what is the difference here?We do want our citizens safe in foreign countries, no matter how stupid they act.
Never once have I stated they are guilty. I just think one should be held to the laws and justice system of the country they are in, because I think foreigners should be held to the laws of our country when they are here. Evidently many do not think people should follow laws when in a foreign country. Sad.Was it actually proven that they were guilty?
Was it actually proven that they were guilty? Perhaps this was a cultural mix-up?
Was it actually proven that they were guilty? Perhaps this was a cultural mix-up? Sorry but comparing violent crime/ rape to shoplifting overpriced sunglasses is not a fair comparison. China is a communist country and may not operate like the U.S. with an "innocent until proven guilty" court system. Besides 10 years in prison is ridiculous for such a crime.
The media attention they received has been brutal and people will forever believe (on campus and elsewhere) that they were guilty even if they might not be. They will likely receive suspension for a period of time from UCLA. That should be punishment enough.
Kurt - Your argument is not logical:I just think one should be held to the laws and justice system of the country they are in...
Evidently many do not think people should follow laws when in a foreign country. Sad.
No, but you might think that they would think twice before stealing in a similar communist country.What if I tear a poster off the wall in North Korea? Do you want me to be tortured and murdered in prison because that is the law there?
No, but you might think that they would think twice before stealing in a similar communist country.
So you think that you, as an American, should decide what laws you follow when in a foreign country. That is the classic "ugly American" attitude that I personally despise. Why do you, as a non-citizen, think your views on what should and should not be a crime have any weight in a foreign country? If you don't agree with nor are willing to follow the local laws, don't visit that country. What arrogance to go into a country and think that because you are an American you can do whatever you want! Geez!Kurt - Your argument is not logical:
What if I have premarital sex in a country where it is punishable by death? Do you want me to be stoned to death because that is the law there?
What if I tear a poster off the wall in North Korea? Do you want me to be tortured and murdered in prison because that is the law there?
Following the laws of another country is not the same thing as approving of the legal penalties in another country, that may be far more severe than the consequences under the US legal system.