TUG server migration scheduled for this Sunday Night 12/23/2018

[TUGBrian]

Well technically early monday morning (2am eastern), but just a heads up that the sites:

tug2.net (homepage) and tugbbs.com (these forums) will be offline for approximately 1 hour while we migrate both sites to a new server.

the existing hardware these sites have run on has performed flawlessly for going on 12 years now! It is long overdue to move them to newer and faster equipment and that is slated to happen tomorrow night!

We are scheduling this in the very off hours to ensure most folks never even notice the changeover, and at worst case these sites will be unavailable for up to 1 hour.

Thank you for your patience and merry Christmas!

 

[DaveNV]

Brian, there won't be any changes to IP addresses or anything, will there? I have a lot of Tug bookmarks.

Having just migrated my home NAS from one to another, I know the details this sort of thing can require. Good luck!

Dave

 

[Passepartout]

What could POSSIBLY go wrong???? Good Luck Admins!

 

[TUGBrian]

dns changes happen on the back end and are prepared for ahead of time...thankfully we've actually gone thru a full migration of the sites as a test and worked out all the kinks ahead of time...fingers crossed sunday will be a breeze =)

however no, end users should not need to update any links at all to access the site on the new server once complete.

 

[dioxide45]

Brian, there won't be any changes to IP addresses or anything, will there? I have a lot of Tug bookmarks.

Having just migrated my home NAS from one to another, I know the details this sort of thing can require. Good luck!

Dave

Even if the IP addresses change, the www paths should remain the same. Your favorites/bookmarks will point to those www paths, not the actual IP address of the server.

I am interested however in your NAS setup at home. I recently had a network interface go out in a WD My Book Live that I have had for years. I suspect it is the network interface based on my research. Luckily I have a fairly recent backup of everything and we recently migrated document retention to OneDrive. I think I could get the stuff off the drive if absolutely necessary, so I will hold on to it in the event I may need to have it disassembled to pull the HDD and connect it to a Linux box. Regardless of that, the problem has me looking in to a new NAS solution for our home. That and we I have filled a 4TB drive with all of our photos and videos.

What are you using in your home NAS? I have been seriously researching a Synology NAS, looking at one of their four bay models. Likely starting out putting in three 8TB drives that will give me 16TB of space running SHR (Synology Hybrid RAID). This should give me the needed redundancy in the event of a single drive failure. Though, reading, it seems that this would just effectively be RAID-5 which seems be out in favor for RAID-6. The problem is that RAID-6 (SHR-2) would require an additional 8TB drive and would still keep my capacity at 16TB. Though I would have the ability to have two drives fail and still be able to rebuild the RAID. None of this comes cheap of course. The three drive setup with a four bay unit comes in at about $1000. Adding the fourth drive ups the price to about $1250.

I did look in to building my own NAS, but it seems that these NAS appliances are so much easier and really not much more money. I have also never built my own PC, so I think I am better going the Synology route. Interested to know what your setup was and how much it cost you.

 

[bbodb1]

Best of luck with this, Brian!

 

[Sandy VDH]

Did a project recently where we rolled out 1500 New websites, all with primary and alternate addresses. Oh that is so much fun. LOL.

 

[pedro47]

I wish you much luck and success. Cruise Critics did an upgrade a couple months ago and their website was down about a week. You could not post new information or add new threads ; you could only read old posts and threads.

 

[dioxide45]

I wish you much luck and success. Cruise Critics did an upgrade a couple months ago and their website was down about a week. You could not post new information or add new threads ; you could only read old posts and threads.

They were upgrading their forum software, like TUG did when they went from vBulletin to Xenforo. Though the new Cruise Critic's forum software sucks.

 

[DaveNV]

I am interested however in your NAS setup at home.

I've sent you a PM.

Dave

 

[SmithOp]

They were upgrading their forum software, like TUG did when they went from vBulletin to Xenforo. Though the new Cruise Critic's forum software sucks.

Amen to that, and they refuse to integrate Tapatalk.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

 

[DaveNV]

Brian, from where I'm sitting it looks like things are working. How did the upgrade go?

Dave

 

[tombanjo]

Re NAS - 4 8TB drives in RAID 5 or 6 would provide 24TB of storage. That is a HUGE amount of storage. A 3 minute song encoded FLAC at 44.1/16 is 22 meg. Which means you could store over 1 million songs.

I just bought a used ReadyNAS 4 bay on eBay with 4 2TB drives to consolidate 3 various old seagate raid drives and with the overhead o/s and RAID 5 it's still over 5 TB and thousand and thousands of music files, pictures, saved tv shows, etc and still a huge amount of space left. I keep a select amount of backup in the cloud as well as a disaster can still wipe out your local NAS. The units with a bigger number of bays (over 2) generally have a better interface and feature set.

 

[pedro47]

They were upgrading their forum software, like TUG did when they went from vBulletin to Xenforo. Though the new Cruise Critic's forum software sucks.

This I must agree with you 110%.

 

[dioxide45]

Brian, from where I'm sitting it looks like things are working. How did the upgrade go?

Dave

I think the upgrade is happening tonight, not last night.

 

[dioxide45]

Re NAS - 4 8TB drives in RAID 5 or 6 would provide 24TB of storage. That is a HUGE amount of storage. A 3 minute song encoded FLAC at 44.1/16 is 22 meg. Which means you could store over 1 million songs.

I just bought a used ReadyNAS 4 bay on eBay with 4 2TB drives to consolidate 3 various old seagate raid drives and with the overhead o/s and RAID 5 it's still over 5 TB and thousand and thousands of music files, pictures, saved tv shows, etc and still a huge amount of space left. I keep a select amount of backup in the cloud as well as a disaster can still wipe out your local NAS. The units with a bigger number of bays (over 2) generally have a better interface and feature set.

In a 4x8TB RAID-6, you would only get 16 TB of storage, RAID-5 would provide 24TB. I certainly don't need 24 or even 16TB right now. I only have 4TB of data, but I have started shooting a lot of video on vacations and that can eat up storage much faster than any songs ever will. I shot over 600GB of video and photos on our last two week B2B cruises. Over time I am sure I will get better with shooting and won't shoot or keep quite so much. Even still, video is a huge data hog.

I am thinking of going with three 8TB drives running in SHR (Synology Hybrid Raid). This is pretty much the same as RAID-5 but gives you the ability to more easily upgrade to larger drives later one at a time and it is thus better able to manage all the capacity and limit unused storage in the RAID.

 

[TUGBrian]

Brian, from where I'm sitting it looks like things are working. How did the upgrade go?

Dave

isnt till tonight =)

 

[TUGBrian]

This I must agree with you 110%.

just visited it, that is alot of white space for sure. im sure one would get used to it eventually though!

 

[DaveNV]

isnt till tonight =)

Well, see how I get? Always early, always jumping the gun. My track coach hated that... LOL!

Tell me tomorrow how it went.

Dave

 

[TUGBrian]

if I can post and you can read it after 3am or so...im hoping itll be a success! =D

 

[dioxide45]

just visited it, that is alot of white space for sure. im sure one would get used to it eventually though!

It really isn't that. I have found no way to easily view Watched Threads and Watched forums in one (or even two) place(s).

 

[TUGBrian]

should be kicking off here in the next few minutes!

hope to see all of you in about an hour =)

 

[Bwolf]

Things seem to be working just fine.

 

[pedro47]

Thanks Brian, things are looking awesome.

 

[TUGBrian]

a few wonky items going on with emails...and somehow our brand new server is already on some sort of blacklist (earthlink/att/few others)...but hopefully we can sort that out quickly and be back to 100%

none of this should impact your browsing experience though!