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Timing Southwest's Hawaii Flight Sale

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Yes, that's true. ;) I keep waiting for the announcement, so I am just such a nerd. I wouldn't fly SW to Hawaii with no first class, and according to Kurt (Pigsdad), there will be no such thing as business class. I shouldn't read all of those Points Guy bloviators.

Yep, since Southwest did not change their business model when they started flying internationally, I don't expect them to do so when they start Hawaii.

But I'm with you. Southwest is not in my plans. We've been fortunate enough to fly First Class every time to Hawaii and I don't plan on moving to coach anytime soon. I like that 8 1/2 hours of comfortable seating from DFW>OGG and the return.
 

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Yep, since Southwest did not change their business model when they started flying internationally, I don't expect them to do so when they start Hawaii.

But I'm with you. Southwest is not in my plans. We've been fortunate enough to fly First Class every time to Hawaii and I don't plan on moving to coach anytime soon. I like that 8 1/2 hours of comfortable seating from DFW>OGG and the return.
Oh, yes, the first-class seating is wonderful. We just happened to luck into lie-flat seats on a United flight out of SFO next Friday. The original plan was a flight one hour later out of SFO, but United adjusted our flight to the 9 AM one, and I was upset, called United and said, "I don't want to move from the flight we were on." The woman who answered the call said they cancelled that particular flight we booked, but we definitely should keep what we assigned to because we are booked on the flight with lie-flat seats. Oh, yeah!

I love Alaska, but they couldn't beat United's price on this particular day and time.

Now I hope I don't get to where I have to fly in lie-flat first-class seats.
 

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Southwest is in-fact debating revenue options....that's what started the blogs wagging....

Don't think 2x2 seating is likely....but do think a business section is coming. Possibly like United's new premium seating?
Who knows....

Southwest Airlines Co. Chief Executive Officer Gary Kelly piqued investor curiosity recently when he said new ways to generate revenue are “under construction.’’

The discounter barely has a toe in the big pool of money that rivals collect from so-called ancillary fees for, say, food bought on board or preferred seating. And Kelly has ruled out some of the juiciest mainstays at other airlines, such as charges for checked bags, assigned seats and reservation changes.

“That’s not what we do,” he said on an earnings call. Southwest has “better opportunities that fit our brand.’’
 

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Southwest is in-fact debating revenue options....that's what started the blogs wagging....

Don't think 2x2 seating is likely....but do think a business section is coming. Possibly like United's new premium seating?
Who knows....

And the BA type of Business Class for Europe flights is a farce when all they do is block the middle seat and the other two seats are just as uncomfortable as ever, with the exception that no one is seated next to you.
 

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That’s business class in Europe for many airlines. Block the center seat and give you drinks and a snack for free. But then, business class doesn’t cost 2-5x what economy costs.
 

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Southwest is in-fact debating revenue options....that's what started the blogs wagging....

Don't think 2x2 seating is likely....but do think a business section is coming. Possibly like United's new premium seating?
Who knows....
Is United's new premium seating where they charge you extra for an Economy seat, but it's just closer to the front of the plane? I saw this option when I was booking a recent flight. I had the choice of Economy Plus, which was more leg room, and this new Economy for about $9.00 more, but it was still a basic Economy seat.
 

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And the BA type of Business Class for Europe flights is a farce when all they do is block the middle seat and the other two seats are just as uncomfortable as ever, with the exception that no one is seated next to you.
Agree with that. I don't see why they would leave the same seats. They should take out the other seats and put the comfortable seats in. But I doubt we will fly SW to Hawaii. Most of our kids would be thrilled with regular old SW seats. I only have one spoiled son, but he is also very tall, two inches taller than Rick, and he is not a small guy, so he needs 1st, and they have a baby under 2. I cannot imagine taking a toddler as active as our little Bella on a coach flight to Hawaii.
 

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Agree with that. I don't see why they would leave the same seats. They should take out the other seats and put the comfortable seats in. But I doubt we will fly SW to Hawaii. Most of our kids would be thrilled with regular old SW seats. I only have one spoiled son, but he is also very tall, two inches taller than Rick, and he is not a small guy, so he needs 1st, and they have a baby under 2. I cannot imagine taking a toddler as active as our little Bella on a coach flight to Hawaii.
And the other first class customers probably can't imagine a relaxing trip shared with an active 2 year old. It's all about perspective.
 

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Agree with that. I don't see why they would leave the same seats. They should take out the other seats and put the comfortable seats in. But I doubt we will fly SW to Hawaii. Most of our kids would be thrilled with regular old SW seats. I only have one spoiled son, but he is also very tall, two inches taller than Rick, and he is not a small guy, so he needs 1st, and they have a baby under 2. I cannot imagine taking a toddler as active as our little Bella on a coach flight to Hawaii.
We traveled every summer with two small children, one of them VERY active. We always flew coach. Couldn't afford anything more for the four of us. But that was back in the days when you could get up and stroll up and down the aisle and kind of hang out in the back. The crew called it the "family" area. We got upgraded [free] on one flight to Hawaii when the type of plane was switched out. My younger dd and I ended up in first class on the upper level of the plane and the rest of the family (4 in all) ended up downstairs in business class. Spoiled the younger one for life. She has somehow managed to get upgraded free a few times, but for long flights she will pay for a business class seat.
 
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We are staying in Maui at WKORVN the last week of May.

beatofhawaii.com is saying that they feel that Southwest may not commence flights to Hawaii until June. I've been waiting on the sidelines to book air thinking that SWA would've had tickets for Spring on sale by now. Currently Alaska, 1 Alaska companion pass, my price per ticket is about $440 for 4 tickets from Sacramento.

Normally I would jump on this price, but in this case I'm unsure if I should wait or not...

We always drove to San Francisco for the flight as deals are easier to get there and near airport in a hotel you stay 1 night they store your car for free next morn shuttle to airport and board plane
 

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Well, the mechanics' contract better also be imminent.....or it ain't gonna work so good.
IMO
 

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Is United's new premium seating where they charge you extra for an Economy seat, but it's just closer to the front of the plane? I saw this option when I was booking a recent flight. I had the choice of Economy Plus, which was more leg room, and this new Economy for about $9.00 more, but it was still a basic Economy seat.

No, it's completely different. I sat (for a few minutes) in them in a new aircraft on the way to Hawaii.

They are maroon (purple?) colored. They have more room, more benefits (food, drink) and more space. Not sure how it really works, but they are NOT regular economy.

I also think they will be high-priced at first. Hopefully, the price will come down.
 

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No, it's completely different. I sat (for a few minutes) in them in a new aircraft on the way to Hawaii.

They are maroon (purple?) colored. They have more room, more benefits (food, drink) and more space. Not sure how it really works, but they are NOT regular economy.

I also think they will be high-priced at first. Hopefully, the price will come down.
So, is it a step up from Economy Plus? I have heard of several airlines that do offer something like this. It's a bit better than Economy Plus, but not quite Business Class.
 

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So, is it a step up from Economy Plus? I have heard of several airlines that do offer something like this. It's a bit better than Economy Plus, but not quite Business Class.

This is what I saw/sat in. Pretty nice. I saw it in a 787 or 777. Can't remember which.




Sorry United elites — your free rides in premium economy are about to come to an end. The airline’s Premium Plus cabin, currently sold as Economy Plus whenever it appears on a long-haul flight, will soon be designated an entirely different class of service.

The switchover is scheduled to begin on March 30, 2019, with Premium Plus officially launching on the first batch of international routes.

What Is Premium Plus?
Premium Plus is United’s new full-service premium-economy cabin. Seating is similar to what you’ll find in domestic first class, with up to 19 inches of width, 38 inches of pitch and 6 inches of recline.

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United Premium plus on the 787-10 Dreamliner. Photo by Zach Honig.
Passengers also get a 13-inch HD in-flight-entertainment system, individual power and USB outlets, plus an adjustable leg rest and footrest, along with a Saks Fifth Avenue pillow and blanket and noise-reducing headphones.

Customers will be able to select Economy Plus free of charge on all connecting segments that do not have a premium-economy cabin. So a passenger purchasing Premium Plus from Miami (MIA) to Frankfurt (FRA) via Newark (EWR) will be able to sit in an Economy Plus seat on the Miami to Newark segment. Additionally, while Premium Plus tickets don’t include lounge access, customers will be eligible for discounted access to the United Club, with pricing yet to be announced.
 

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Those look the same as American’s Premium Economy seats, at least on their transatlantic 777. They also have what they call Main Cabin Extra seats, which are standard economy seats with additional leg room. In Premium Economy you also get a bit better food with some selection. It is not quite Business Class, but a whole lot better than standard economy.
 
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SWA awaits the FAA's final decision.

The mechanics await SWA's response as well.
We'll see...
 

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The wait is driving me nuts! I have to buy twelve tickets to LIH, and sure would like to use our Companion Passes and points!
 

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The wait is driving me nuts! I have to buy twelve tickets to LIH, and sure would like to use our Companion Passes and points!
I hear you! Although I only need 3 (possibly 4) tickets. When are you traveling?
 

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