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Taking a cruise after a timeshare stay?

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We find the dancing waiters with twirling napkins to be annoying too. We often do My Time Dining and have lucked out the last few times and were able to miss that. They usually only do this a couple nights of the cruise.
 

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Embarkation on Carnival's Magic out of Cape Canaveral week before last (Spring Break) was a breeze! No long lines to a desk to check in and get our room cards. They really handled that well. After security, we paused briefly and were handed a sheet of paper with our information, a bar code, and a zone number. There were seating sections by zone and zones were called in order and according to that zone's "reservation time" check-in. So it didn't pay to get there before your reservation time. Once your zone was called you moved on to the ship...without cabin cards which was new to me. The bar code on the slip of paper could be used to charge drinks, etc. until the cabins were opened, which was at 1:30. Our cards were at the cabin.

The Magic was said to have been built in 2011 and to hold 4,000, yet we found the ship seemed old, gaudy, confusing, low-ceilinged and claustrophobic. For that new of a ship, there was only one electrical outlet in the main cabin and one in the bathroom. Not so uncommon though. They confiscated cords with surge protectors until the end of the cruise. We had plenty of storage space in our cabin. So much that some went unused. Upon first entering, we found sequins in the carpet, fingerprints on the balcony window, and a daily schedule on the floor under the dressing table from 5 days before. When we packed to leave, we found a neon colored child's tote bag with a neck pillow attached and a couple of toys inside that had been missed. That was a first for me! Over the week, my daughter tested our cleaner by sprinkling a few sunflower seeds on the floor around her side of the bed by the balcony, and we checked to see if they were vacuumed. Not till the last day. The walls of our cabin were somewhat thin (we had an adjoining door to someone else's room and could hear her cell phone conversations). Might have been better without that door as her's was the side we heard the most. She was part of a large group traveling together who purposefully booked every other cabin and then proceeded to speak to one another loudly across other people's balconies. It got better as the week went on though. There were little children who occasionally ran down the hallway, feet pounding. While in port, the ship smelled like mold and sewer. It got better as the AC was pumped back up once under way but there was one day around mid-week that the ship's main floor smelled like sewer. Smoking was allowed in the casino and through it was the main path to other venues. Not pleasant.

Even though it was Spring Break, it really was not a drunken party cruise! Lots of young people. Lots of families with kids. People from most walks of life. Lots of girls in bikinis around the pool (which was surprisingly small) dancing and singing to loud music with drinks in hand, but no one pounding on doors or waking us in the wee hours. Only once did I open our door and see some "neighbors" returning from a day at Margaritaville on Grand Turk, staggering and laughing down the hall. It was late afternoon and no problem! Rude people were a problem. There were always people pushing in from the sides of those of us who diid line up for dinner or an event. They ignored people on scooters, in wheelchairs, families with tired little kids and a stroller. They surged into an elevator pushing ahead of those who had been waiting. And yes, the usual problem of chairs being saved at the pool but unused most of the time.

The food was mediocre but there were a few stand-outs, among appetizers mainly. We did not eat in specialty restaurants. The Lido buffet had long lines at times but finding seating was not a problem. Breakfast was OK but the rest not to my liking with the exception of Guy's Burger Joint's fresh hot french fries! Burger wasn't bad either. There seemed to be very few workers at the Lido who would ask if they could get you a drink or anything, for that matter. Service at Any Time dining was just so so. Mid-week we found a head waiter we liked and tried to request her each night. Still, it seemed as if we had to wait long times between courses if we had been seated near tables who were ahead of us by course. Coffee was forgotten until after dessert was served, if even then. It was very difficult to get a soft drink at all eating venues. We had a package. Bars were crowded and bartenders seemed to pass us over for those more likely to tip extra. There's no doubt that automatic tipping has lessened service on all lines I've traveled.

My biggest disappointment was our cabin steward because of the lack of cleanliness mentioned above and an incident where my daughter hurt her ankle in San Juan and the medical center told us to elevate it with more pillows. I approached our cabin steward in the hall and asked for two more pillows and he said to give him 15 minutes. The pillows arrived 24 hours later. I've always had great stewards before. This the first time I went to the customer service desk and complained.

WiFi was awful. I purchased three premium packages for the "best and fastest" but it took forever, if at all, to load a page. I think I was able to pull my email 4 times during the week. Complained about that too on the last day and they refunded the packages, which, by the way, were a lot less expensive than packages on Celebrity!

One thing I LOVED on this cruise was the Carnival Hub app. It worked really well to keep us up on time, temperatures, port arrival and departure times, "What's Happening Now" calendar (You could favorite an event and keep up with where you wanted to go next without scrolling through the whole calendar). "Where to Eat Now," including menus. The photos that Carnival's photographers took of us were available on the app very quickly, saving all that paper and trips to search a wall for them. There was a chat feature for $5.00 total to keep up with one another while on board. That worked sporadically, however, was very helpful keeping up with our teenager.

The entertainment wasn't great. Same singers and dancers every night in theater. Comedy club seating only if you came 30-45 minutes early.

Our two Carnival excursions were pretty seamless. But we got more for our money with fewer people on our two private excursions. Carnival even waited for us when we were an hour late from a private excursion but that's an even longer story and this is so lengthy now.

Bottom line, not our best ship, food, service or entertainment but a great itinerary, better price, and our best bet all things considered for that week.
 
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Oh, and speaking of older smaller ships...I would say our experience on Carnival's oldest ship, The Ecstasy, out of Charleston was better than this newer larger one. The food, though not up to Celebrity's standards, was even better.
 

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We enjoy cruises but we just cannot do Carnival. It is on the low end of all cruise lines, and as such, generally the demographics that go with it and not people that we want to be around.
My are we snobs not wanting to be with Carnival cruisers.
 

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We have enjoyed many Windstar Cruises all over the world. If we were to do cruises in the future, we would consider Viking Ocean Cruises, Oceania or Seabourne. We will also consider a Disney cruise, but that will be a one timer just for the kids. Viking started the ocean cruises not that long ago and they are getting superb reviews.

Unfortunately, not all of us have the budgets for these types of cruises. Other than Disney, you are talking $3000-$4000 per person for the lowest category cabin in off season. These are luxury lines, far from the mainline cruise lines.
These are 'Premium' or higher end luxury cruises, but they often include extras that add to the 'nickel and dimeing' of main stream cruise lines. Like drinks, or shore excursions, or 'premium dining rooms' or laundry. We have Windstar under our belts and enjoy them very much. By noon of the first full day aboard, I was addressed as 'Mr. Jim' by the crew, and we had a private tour- just the wife and I through the galley conducted by the head chef. In the dining room we were often offered seating with senior ship's officers. And if one watches the specials (every week I get an email with 7 specials good for a week to book), you can often get a week for $2,000pp.

One difference with the small ship- luxury cruises that differs from the big ship, mass market ones is that they generally are slower. In a week, the bigger ships will regularly travel 2,000 miles. A 200 mile overnight voyage is commonplace, so passengers can access several 'major' ports in a week. For instance the above referenced NOLA-Cozumel-Merida-NOLA in a week. That's really covering a lot of territory- or a transatlantic cruise that transits in 6 days. By comparison Windstar takes 3 weeks to go from Rome to Lisbon or a week to do a Panama Canal transit from Costa Rica on one ocean to Colon Panama on the other. There are lots more stops, but they may be just teens of miles apart instead of hundreds.

In the end, there's something for every taste and every budget. Unfortunately The high end service and the low price don't seem to be one of the choices.

Jim
 

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My disappointment with Carnival was the food. I'm normally not a picky eater, but the selection seemed poor and the quality was bland. Naturally, this is a subjective issue. ;-)

And I stepped out of the dining room when they had their way-too-loud dancing waiter event.

I'm not saying I would NEVER cruise on Carnival again, but it would have to be the ONLY choice going somewhere that I really wanted to go.

Thank you. I'm kind of in the same boat, no pun intended. ;)

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We have done 3 timeshare stays along with a cruise vacation. The first time we did a week at Vacation Village at Weston followed by a Norwegian cruise out of Fort Lauderdale or Miami (can't remember which). We found the drive home (to north of Toronto) very tiring after getting off the ship and getting in the car for the long drive home. The next 2 times we did Carnival (1 out of Tampa, 1 out of Ft Lauderdale) then a week stay in a timeshare to relax. We did not find either of the Carnival cruises to be "party" cruises but we did not go at any school break or holiday time. When we cruise we are so active we prefer to take the week afterward to relax instead of the week before. We booked all our cruises through Vacations To Go and had no complaints at all. We would rather go on 2 or 3 cheap cruises (we get interior cabins) than 1 very expensive one.

Our DS & DiL have cruised out of New Orleans twice and loved it. They were surprised at how long it takes to go down the Mississippi and get out to the Gulf. The cruise stop at Progresso is interesting. They have the longest pier we have ever seen there, it is 4 miles long! The cruise line had buses to take people to shore. From there it is about a 45 minute car or colectivo (mini-bus or van) ride to the old colonial city of Merida.

~Diane

Thank you, Diane. That is very good information. A four mile long pier must be impressive as heck to see! It has to be due to the depth of the water. That must have been quite the engineering feat to build.

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We took one cruise in our lifetime-3 Caribbean stops- out of Miami- weren't timeshare owners then. It was a Carnival and it was like 35 years ago.

Was a lot of fun- hey we were young. A lot of food is what I mostly remember about the ship itself. I gained 10 lbs.

We liked getting off the boat the best. After that- we never cruised again because we like being on land. We wouldn't mind a day boat excursion somewhere, but that is about it.
 

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I have never cruised on Carnival, but I have a friend who lives just outside of NOLA and she cruises one or two times per year on Carnival out of there. She obviously loves it. She cruises with her whole family as well as just with her husband or just friends. She does not drink. I don't know what specifically she enjoys about it, but I suspect being taken care of and not having to do cooking/cleaning, etc has a lot to do with it. I'm sure some people take that cruise to party - that doesn't seem to put a damper on her cruise at all.

Take the cruise. You aren't a complainer. I'm sure you'll find lots of stuff to be very happy about on your cruise. I've been on cruises where people have complained about the most ridiculous things. If you are a complainer, you'll have lots to complain and whine about. You aren't that type of person. You'll have fun.

Thank you. I agree, I am not a complainer. I'm not one of those "lumpy pillow syndrome" people we all read about. But I'm also not a pushover - if something is out of line, I'll do whatever I can to get it fixed, rather than dealing with it. I also am one to make my own entertainment most of the time. Privacy and respect go a long way in my book. Playing games-for-drinks events on the ship is probably a lot of fun for some (my brother comes to mind - he loves that sort of thing) but not so much for me. I'm the definition of the light drinker.

I can also find great satisfaction spending time on board ship walking the decks, enjoying the weather, watching the ocean going by, and just relaxing. I'm not a gambler, especially in a captive situation like a cruise ship casino filled with smoke, so I wouldn't be using that either. Give me a nice bed, a hot shower, a decent meal (doesn't have to be five star, as long as it tastes good), and treat me with courtesy, and I'm going to be pretty easy to please. Publicly humiliate me, make fun of me or those with me, single me out for your asinine touristy drunken rave BS, and you will never see me again. The rest is just details. :)

Dave
 

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My are we snobs not wanting to be with Carnival cruisers.

Of course I am. Everyone can choose where to spend their dime.
For opposite reasons, you probably won't ever see us on Windstar, Azamara, Cunard or Seabourn. We don't want to be among other people who somehow think they are better than us.
 

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For opposite reasons, you probably won't ever see us on Windstar, Azamara, Cunard or Seabourn. We don't want to be among other people who somehow think they are better than us.
People who can afford to cruise on the premium lines- or for that matter timeshare at Hyatt, Marriott, Hilton et al don't consider themselves 'better' than anyone else, they just choose (and are able) to afford the higher end of the spectrum. I'm sure you associate with co-workers, or friends who don't timeshare or vacation at all- or maybe they use an RV or a tent. You don't consider yourself 'better' than them, do you?
 

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For opposite reasons, you probably won't ever see us on Windstar, Azamara, Cunard or Seabourn. We don't want to be among other people who somehow think they are better than us.
It is not about whether someone feels that they are better than someone else. It is about being in an environment where they are more comfortable. You own at Marriott and Vistana and so do we. Someone who stays at Motel 6 can say the same about people who choose to spend their $ on Marriott and Westin. Everyone has to decide how and where they want to spend their money. It is never about whether someone is better than someone else.
 

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I completely see the points of view expressed above about those other cruise lines. I think they exist for their target demographic passenger, and they all have their place. I have nothing against those higher-end lines, and I'd love to do some of those boutique cruises sometime, and someday I just might. I know which shining silver fork to use, but I also am not against disposable flatware - depending on the environment I'm in. Kind of like the different seating sections available on an airline - it's about the experience, and you tend to get what you pay for.

In the case of this particular cruise I'm considering, it's the location and opportunity, combined with being the only cruise available that takes me to a place I'd really like to see. The price is a nice factor, but it's not the deal breaker for me. I'm weighing whether the very affordable price would give me a satisfying cruise experience to a place I'd like to see. I know the time will pass quickly, and after I'm home, how will I remember the cruise? Will it be for the positive things I most enjoyed, on and off the ship, or will it be for the annoyances on board I know I won't like? That is the dichotomy I am trying to resolve.

My current feeling is to follow Dioxide's and Presley's suggestions, and take the cruise. It's only a five day trip, two days of which are In Port to places I've never been. The two days at sea would likely be very enjoyable to me, for reasons I've already stated, and how I enjoy spending time on the open water. The potential positives outweigh the potential negatives. The fear factor of the horror of traveling with the unwashed masses isn't so much of an issue. As a career Navy man who has been in some extreme conditions, I know I've survived worse. :)

Thanks, everyone. I sincerely appreciate this discussion. You folks are awesome.

Dave
 

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Thank you, Diane. That is very good information. A four mile long pier must be impressive as heck to see! It has to be due to the depth of the water. That must have been quite the engineering feat to build.
Dave

We could barely see land from the ship! I think originally the pier was built for commercial shipping and not for passenger ships, and yes the area is very shallow (as it is along the coast all the way down to the south end of Belize) so it's length allows ships to dock. There is a large parking lot/ storage area at the sea end but no gantry cranes like we have seen at other commercial ports.

We haven't been to Merida yet but friends in Belize have been several times and love it. They say its a beautiful old colonial city. A lot of Mexicans living in Merida & nearby areas have summer vacation homes in, and along the coast from, Progreso.

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We haven't been to Merida yet but friends in Belize have been several times and love it. They say its a beautiful old colonial city. A lot of Mexicans living in Merida & nearby areas have summer vacation homes in, and along the coast from, Progreso.

~Diane

That's a big reason for wanting to experience Merida. I know in less than 8 hours I won't get it all, but it'll be enough of a taste to decide if I'd like to go back there as a destination for a full-on vacation. I expect I will, and this is an opportunity to see if I'm right.

Dave
 
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Having read all this thread and knowing my own reasons for choosing Carnival recently are similar to your's, I think you should take it too! I will remember both the good and the bad as I recall our Carnival cruise through the years, but would do it again for the same reasons. Go for it! And be sure to let us know how it went!
 

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Having read all this thread and knowing my own reasons for choosing Carnival recently are similar to your's, I think you should take it too! I will remember both the good and the bad as I recall our Carnival cruise through the years, but would do it again for the same reasons. Go for it! And be sure to let us know how it went!

Well, as it happens, I decided you and others are right: I booked the cruise. If plans change, I can cancel with no penalty, but at least now I have something I can build on.

Thanks again, everyone, for your candid comments. I've learned from this thread, and now have even more ideas for future trips. :)

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Take the cruise, Dave! I've sailed Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Norwegian, Princess, Holland American and have good and bad things to say about all of them. We were actually kind of disappointed that our first Carnival cruise wasn't the party-hearty mayhem we'd been led to believe it would be (we were young then lol). We've done about a half dozen on Carnival and enjoyed them all. Most recently we sailed the Carnival Breeze, a big beautiful ship with lots of stuff to do, the food was decent, the entertainment okay, the service pretty good. We never ran into a drunk. The kids on board were having a good time but generally well-behaved.

I look at cruising kind of like timesharing. I do love to stay in a Marriott or Hyatt or a Wyndham, but I have just as good of a time when I am in a pretty bare-bones place as long as I'm somewhere where I want to be. For example, on a very recent trip to Florida I could have picked up an exchange at a Marriott in Orlando, or a no-big-deal timeshare on the beach in New Smyrna. I went to the beach and had such a good time, with views that took my breath away. So what if the furniture was Big Lots versus Ethan Allen. So what if my kitchen counter was formica rather than granite. So what if I didn't have a walk-in shower with 15 different shower heads, but had to hop into a regular old bathtub with a regular shower head. When I go out to eat on a timeshare vacation I'm not looking for a Michelin star quality meal - some do, but I'd rather have just good basic food at a reasonable price and spend my money on experiences. I've never had worse food on a Carnival cruise than I would get at a moderately priced restaurant, and it is often much better. We always gain weight after a cruise...maybe we'd be better off if the food were worse lol.

I would sail Carnival again without a second thought.

Edited to add: I see you did book the cruise. Congratulations, and have a wonderful time!
 

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Edited to add: I see you did book the cruise. Congratulations, and have a wonderful time!


Thanks! I'm now working on my best friend from high school and his wife, who are great friends who cruised to Alaska with us last August, to see if they'll come along. They've cruised on Carnival three times, and say they'd be happy to do it again. Cross your fingers. I figure it's a good chance the four of us can make our own fun, and leave the crazies on the ship to themselves. :)

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Thanks! I'm now working on my best friend from high school and his wife, who are great friends who cruised to Alaska with us last August, to see if they'll come along. They've cruised on Carnival three times, and say they'd be happy to do it again. Cross your fingers. I figure it's a good chance the four of us can make our own fun, and leave the crazies on the ship to themselves. :)

Dave
Yes. Please do report back. We hope you have an enjoyable time.
 

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We have cruised on Princess, Carnival, Norwegian and Disney. Disney was our most recent cruise with extended family and, fairly, can not be compared to what I see as typical cruise lines. We have sailed Princess twice, NCL twice and Carnival once. While there is no doubt that from our first cruise nearly twenty years ago to the most recent, of those first three lines, the food has definitely changed. In no small way, I attribute this to specialty restaurants available on all ships now.

I think that I can say with complete honesty that were I to win a cruise on Carnival, I would donate it to charity. Our cruise was not a nightmare punctuated with some of the indignities some have suffered (as seen on media) but instead, an uncomfortable experience that left me dissatisfied. I work hard for my vacation time. We went into a Carnival cruise knowing that this was not the Cadillac of cruise lines but I was unpleasantly surprised.

Our first night on the cruise had us meeting about a dozen embarrassingly drunk young people (21???) at the pool - I am referencing their behaviors and speech, not my value judgement on their state. It would have been a shrug from me except that two of the young men left and came back with two more "buckets" of beer. Obviously, they were still being served despite the fact that they were very, very drunk. The following night, I was watching a movie on the outside screen when a young woman wandered up, fell into a seat, ordered more beer and then proceeded to be sick on herself, the deck and the chair and then fell asleep. The waiter who returned with her beer woke her up, had her sign the check and left. A friend of hers came by a few minutes later and led her away. Had her friend not arrived, I probably would have waited. I was afraid for her health and safety.

One day at the pool, I went to the restroom. I opened the door, stepped in and my flip-flop clad foot hit about an inch and a half of water on the floor. The bathroom was flooded. I pulled my foot out, told a member of the crew and went back to the cabin to shower. I washed the flip-flops in water as hot as I could get it with soap. I am no germophobe, but this really freaked me out.

Our friends and we ordered drinks in the lounge one evening. I ordered a vodka martini. The waiter brought me a martini made with gin. Hard to miss the difference in smell. I said that this wasn't vodka but gin. The waiter said I was mistaken, it was vodka. I shook my head but he once again said it was vodka. My husband signed the check and I went to the bartender. I told him I had ordered vodka, he sniffed the drink and said that I was right, it was gin. He made me another drink. This was not rocket science, nor was I asking for anything but what I had ordered.

While there were certainly lovely members of the crew, our cabin attendant was not one of them. She was unfriendly for most of the cruise. This woman did absolutely nothing above the bare minimum. She was brusque with us. I don't need to be fawned over or treated like royalty but I am a friendly person who always offers a greeting. When I spoke to this woman, she barely grunted back. The day before the cruise ended, we tipped her the suggested gratuity. I never even considered giving her less; I know how much the crew depends on tips and, honestly, what do I know of her life? That evening, she went from unfriendly to scowling and, in a language I did not know, obviously discussed me with another attendant. I guess I will never know what the issue was but nor do I care.

There were other annoyances but I won't bore you. For some (and I met many on that cruise), Carnival is what they enjoyed. Mostly the gambling but I do think the all-inclusive and someone taking care of you is appealing on any cruise. But Carnival is not for me. I had never thought of timeshare+cruise but I like it and will definitely give it more consideration.

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I want to add that Carnival is the only cruise line reported that has a policy of limiting to 15 drinks per day on their alcoholic beverage package.

I had also read one Carnival review where someone complained about a Carnival cruise which she was on and some guy was "clearly not drunk" but was refused to be served another drink due to reaching his limit.
 

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Carnival is not my favorite or cruiseline of choice (I prefer others), but I've been on enuff of their cruises (~3 or so), that I would say that JudiZ's experience may well have been ship-specific. Carnival ships may have more drunk-kids and overused bathrooms than other cruise lines (Princess, NCL, RCL), but I've not seen it. Then again, I tend to avoid places with rowdy crowds. I'm just sayin' that poor experiences can be had anywhere and I wouldn't generalize it across the brand.
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I appreciate these comments, and I'm sorry you had such negative experiences. That must have been terrible. It is definitely something I will watch for, and WATCH OUT for.

But I have no unrealistic expectations of this five day cruise. It will be what it will be. But I'm not much of a drinker, I don't usually gamble, I don't use hotel or ship swimming pools, and especially not their hot tubs ("human soup" is not for me.) I will decide what foods to eat, and what not to. I expect I will have a nice time - maybe not a five star experience (I'm not naive), but I'll make it as fun as possible for my friends and I.

And this may all be a moot point anyway - if I can't book the timeshare time I want, the cruise will be cancelled. No harm, no foul. :)

Dave
 
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