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Summer Bay Resort a Sink Hole [merged]

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Isn't this what insurance is for? Shouldn't the resort be carrying a policy to protect occupants and their belongings? The problem is under many states hospitality laws, the resorts have very little liability for personal belongings and timeshares fall under hotel/hospitality, not residences.
Exactly. So why should the resort carry a policy to protect occupants belonging? Because by law, they don't need to.

Though if someone is carrying $10,000 in cameras and personal electronics, they should probably have their own policy covering such items and not relying on others to make sure their items are covered.
Yep, if someone wants to take expensive things with them when they travel, by Florida law it is up to the individual, not the timeshare, to ensure they are covered.

But whining after the fact that Summer Bay should cover them because they brought a large amount of valuables on vacation and were too lazy/stupid not to have insurance -- they have no one to blame but themselves. (Remember: we are talking about a natural disaster causing the loss; completely out of the control or influence of the resort.)

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Of course, a representative of the resort should never have told people they would make them whole.

Speaking to reporters after the collapse, Caldwell said the resort specialized in hospitality and would make its guests "whole."

"No one will suffer any economic loss," he said at the time. "There are some inconveniences to their vacation, which sickens us, but, believe us, we are doing everything to make this be a special vacation." Caldwell did not respond Wednesday to a request for comment.

While they may have the law on their side, what they did and are doing is not right. Don't make the statement to make yourself look good in the time of crisis only to not be willing to comment later on when the dust has settled.
 
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Isn't this what insurance is for? Shouldn't the resort be carrying a policy to protect occupants and their belongings? The problem is under many states hospitality laws, the resorts have very little liability for personal belongings and timeshares fall under hotel/hospitality, not residences.

Though if someone is carrying $10,000 in cameras and personal electronics, they should probably have their own policy covering such items and not relying on others to make sure their items are covered.

If you have home owners policies it should kick in on most these items. Problem is a lot those policies have exclusions as well if you talking about designer handbags and such. In many cases it probably less then what there getting already unless they brought extra insurance that covered these items.



It is probably reasonable to expect 2-3k in personal items on a trip per family. Remember this is based on averages not everyone has Ipads and Gucci Handbags.
 

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Of course, a representative of the resort should never have told people they would make them whole.



While they may have the law on their side, what they did and are doing is not right. Don't make the statement to make yourself look good in the time of crisis only to not be willing to comment later on when the dust has settled.

Yes, that representative screwed up and made statements that should never have been said. I suspect he/she may be "employment chalenged" soon.

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Yes, that representative screwed up and made statements that should never have been said. I suspect he/she may be "employment chalenged" soon.

Kurt

I believe it was the President/CEO of Summer Bay Resorts who made the statements. eek
 
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In a court of law, making a public statement could be considered a contract, and reneging on that could be considered a Breach Of Contract. So, if the persons' insurer will not cover it, talking to a lawyer is next.

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From http://www.nationaltimeshareownersassoc.com/media/NTOAPartnersSummerBay2013.pdf

Press Release: September 24, 2013---St. Petersburg, Florida

On August 11, 2013, a natural event known as a “sinkhole” occurred at Summer Bay Resort in Clermont, Florida. This affected a portion of the
resort, individual timeshare owners and timeshare exchangers alike. As large and small media outlets sought to cover the story over the last several weeks, some took it upon themselves to publish inaccurate information that was either taken out of context or unconfirmed by Summer Bay Management. As a result, timeshare owners contacted the NTOA to learn more about what measures were being taken to protect and preserve owner rights.

The NTOA staff visited the resort and met with senior management to get an accurate accounting of events and to gain an understanding of the
future plans for the affected area of the property. The NTOA and Summer Bay want owners and the community to be aware of factual issues and
resolutions that may not have been previously published.

First, NTOA wishes to recognize the entire staff at Summer Bay for the exceptional actions regarding the safety and security of its guests on
property during this period. Those impacted in the area of Building 104 and adjoining buildings were quickly evacuated by security when the
sinkhole began. As a result of quick thinking and fast action, no one was injured and all owners and guests who were displaced were relocated
either into other timeshare units on property or in some cases, to alternate accommodations off property.

Significant emergency cash was distributed for personal needs such as clothing and medicine and although there were no injuries, the Red Cross
was brought on property to assist. Summer Bay also attempted to reconnect the guests with their vacation experience by providing free park and attraction tickets to families. They also took the unprecedented step of opening all food and beverage outlets on property to ALL guests at the
resort for three (3) days following the incident.

It is also important to note that during the first 48 hours after the event, company representatives met with each and every family to ensure
everyone’s individual needs were met. The only items that were not covered out of pocket by the developer were laptops and jewelry. Fortunately most of this was photographed, recovered and returned to the owners. At the time of this update, only three families had minor claims still being addressed by Summer Bay and the developer is making any and all attempts to satisfy these owners as a few items were unrecoverable.

Going forward, owners of Building 104 are being invited back to Summer Bay for a complimentary 3 night stay so that they are allowed to inspect the property, have their questions fully answered and determine what is their best course of action moving forward. The NTOA has learned that there are three options specifically for these owners at this time.

Option #1- Allows the affected owners to transfer their ownership on a like for like basis with no additional payment or increase in annual maintenance fees

Option #2- Allows the owner to take advantage of an upgrade taking 100% of the equity of the prior ownership and some special discounts that the
developer will be offering

Option #3- A cancellation of the property obligations and a small insurance payout that will be applied to any outstanding balance prior to write off
and cancellation.


It’s important to note that the NTOA believes that Summer Bay took actions that go well beyond the legal requirement of a developer. The company and its employees have shown a care and concern for its extended owner family that takes the word “hospitality” at face value. We encourage members, owners and the community to learn more at http://www.summerbayresort.com

About NTOA
Started in 1997, The NTOA is the largest independent association serving the timeshare community in the United States. Originally formed as the Maryland Timeshare Owners Association, the NTOA is focused on timeshare owners and the issues related to their vacation ownership. For more information on NTOA, please visit www.nationaltimeshareownersassoc.com

About SUMMER BAY
Summer Bay Resort Orlando, is a 350-acre resort with a 64-acre private lake, located 10 minutes from the Walt Disney World Resort® area. Activities on the lake include rental of canoes, waverunners, paddleboats and fishing boats for bass fishing. The resort features one, two and threebedroom luxury villas, vacation homes, four swimming pools, kids water park, three restaurants, fitness center, live entertainment, a full service concierge team and complimentary shuttle to the Walt Disney World Resort® and Universal Studios Orlando® Resort. For more information, go to www.summerbayresort.com.

Contact:
Lisa Ann Schreier, Executive Director
 

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Nice to see the earlier reports that many of the guest's belonging would not be replaced is untrue.
 

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Nice to see the earlier reports that many of the guest's belonging would not be replaced is untrue.

Will be interesting to see if they find all those iPhone5s and iPads and top of the Line SLRs in the rubble.

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