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Star options to marriot points

Discussion in 'Vistana Signature Experiences (formerly Starwood)' started by pgizzi, Oct 5, 2018.

  1. pgizzi

    pgizzi TUG Member

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    Hi,

    Trying to understand a few things regarding conversions.

    what is the ratio to convert star options to the new marriot points?

    Does it ever make sense to convert star options to marriot points?

    How does Converting star options to marriot points compare to depositing in interval international?

    Looking to buy in Maui some day!

    Thanks
     
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    Star Options do not convert to Marriott points.
     
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    You can’t convert StarOptions to Marriott Points.

    Perhaps you are talking about StarPoints? These are converted 1:3 to Marriott points.
    You can convert SOs to SPs then to Marriott Points. But, the 1st step (SO-SP) is generally not worth the conversion (in most cases).


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  4. dioxide45

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    You can convert an underlying Vistana week to Reward points. You can also convert Home Options or Flex Options to Marriott Reward points. Perhaps this is what the OP was referring to?
     
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    Starpoints don't really exist anymore. You don't convert to Starpoints then to Marriott Reward points now. It is a single transaction. Convert your week to Marriott Reward points using the 1:3 ratio based on how many Starpoints your week was previously worth. Though as noted, it may not make much sense to do so.
     
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    Just to add, you don't even get the option to convert, unless you buy directly from the developer
     
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    Or requalify a resale by buying from Developer (VSE)


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    Has VSE updated the StarPoints for their VOIs? I thought that they were still being converted 1:3 to Marriott Points after the SO-SP conversion (for those VOIs that are qualified to allow conversion).


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    They haven't updated the amounts in the online VSE accounts. They are still being converted at a 1:3 ratio. The only difference is that now you don't convert to StarPoints and then to Marriott Reward points like one would have done the past several months. It goes straight to Marriott Reward Points.
     
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    the accounts have been showing the updated amounts (is 240000 instead of 80000) for a few weeks now...
     
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    You look to be right. So no more 1:3 ratio.
     
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    OP is also implying a resale purchase, which means there are no associated starpoints/marriott reward points option.
     
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    I do not see mention of resale in OP - just about buying Maui someday, and asking about converting SO to Marriott Points.

    Bottom-line... Generally, not a great usage to convert SO to Marriott Points, or use II.
    Especially Maui SOs...



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    Got it! So 148,000 star options equals 80,000 star points which is now 240,000 marriot “points”. I can see where making that conversion would make little sense. Thanks for all the input.
     
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    One advantage is flexibility. Also, a 10% bonus and conversion fee is waived for 5* Elites (my numbers may be off). And, can convert as late as October (I think...). Some Tuggers find value in conversion.

    I use my Hawaii weeks - and use WKV SOs to stay in Maui.


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    not that simple unfortunately!

    not all 148100 SO properties convert to 240000. WKORV and WKORVN do. WLR and WDW convert to 216000. other owners can chime in other properties.

    even different weeks at the same resort could vary. I have two different 81000 SO weeks at SVR, where one converts to 126000 and the other to 138000...
     
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    Correct, but I think they were discussing Maui specifically.


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    We convert a portion of our portfolio every year and I'd say that if you are purchasing just to convert, it would be difficult to justify financially because you'll need to purchase something from the developer and that will be pricey. However, if you want to go to KOR/KORN/Nanea and occasionally go somewhere else, I think the conversion can make sense. KOR or KORN convert to 240,000 MR points with a possible 10% bonus based on your status. Within the MR system, if you book 4 nights with points you get the 5th night free. So for 240,000 MR points, you can get a room that costs 30,000 points per night for 10 nights (8 using points, 2 free). We've done this a few times and stayed at places like the Westin Kyoto Japan as well as the Times Square Element for 10 nights. It's nice to have the flexibility.
     
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    One thing I noticed with the switch. My points converted on a 1:3 basis but the hotel I normally use at Heathrow in London went from 7,000 to 24,000 :confused:
     
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    a lot moved around, but i think overall it was a wash.

    the hit is going to be post Jan when a bunch of higher end properties go from the capped 60000 to 80000+, and peak pricing rolls out...
     
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    But is the 7,000 a Starpoint number and the 24,000 a Marriott point number? If so, the increase is roughly 14% when one takes into account the 1:3 conversion ratio.
     
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    I appreciate the detail and actual examples you site above. When you say that you convert a potion of the star options to star points does that have to do with owning a unit with the lock off feature?

    How does that work in terms of converting a portion either to star points or to interval international or I guess a 3rd option is banking in vistana, correct? Thanks
     
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    This may be redundant but if I have a resale mandatory week with star options they can not be converted to Marriott Reward Points?
    Just checking to make sure I didn't miss anything.
    Thanks
     
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    Correct. Hence I am still not sure if OP realizes that buying a resale mandatory does not have the ability to convert to Marriott reward points.
     
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    Not sure on what you are saying unless it's that my 'money' devalued by 14% overnight when the switch happened. All I know is I had just over 7,000 points prior to the switch and enough to get a night in the hotel of my choice but that became just over 21,000 points after the switch and not enough :(

    YYJMSP mentioned it's a wash but I've yet to see any of the Starwood hotels I've used in the past or intended using in the future where the new point value is below the 1:3 conversion ratio.
     

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