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Sedona in January - a couple of questions

Discussion in 'US - Western States Timesharing' started by sueoz, Nov 2, 2019.

  1. sueoz

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    Hi - we are headed to Sedona in January for a trip that will be mostly hiking with golf thrown in if the weather cooperates. I have a choice between Hyatt Pinon Pointe and the Ridge at Golf.

    question 1 - is the traffic in January near the Hyatt still bad. My husband is a sit in traffic phobic and I don’t want to set us up for angst! I like that I can come back from hiking and then just walk the rest of the day, but will it be worth it? Don’t care about shopping, but do care about eating and ice cream.

    question 2 - I know the Ridge is in Oak Creek village away from main Sedona and that some of the trail heads are right there, but if we choose to hike one of the other areas, won’t we just have to go through the same traffic to get to the trail heads?

    the Hyatt gets great reviews but I think we stayed there over 10 years ago and had a two bedroom that was subterranean! The Ridge gets mixed reviews. Any feedback would be welcome! We’re mostly there for nature, but there’s something to be said for Starbucks at the end of the day. thanks, sue
     
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    I can't really answer your specifics, but I can offer some real life experience from our trip last New Years. It was cold in Sedona! I expected it and enjoyed it but you would have to be a hearty soul to enjoy golfing at those temps. It snowed halfway through our trip and everyone from Phoenix came up to see the snow. Epic traffic jam in town. We had driven to Monument Valley the day before and came home through Oak Creek Canyon and what should have taken about 30 minutes took and hour and a half due to in-town traffic. I am sure that a lot of this was due to the timing (NYE) so I am not sure what it would be like if it happened on a non holiday week. There is a slight incline from Oak Creek village to get into town and I remember reading reports of cars having difficulty dealing with the ice on that stretch which contributed to the traffic.

    My thoughts, if you are planning on doing a lot of hiking, I would stay in Oak Creek village - there are so many hiking trails there. But if you want to stroll around town, the Hyatt location is great.

    I remember that there is a tugger who lives in Sedona. I will try to figure out who it is and tag them in this post and perhaps they can offer a more educated guess. Found them! @jerseyfinn
     
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    I've been to Sedona for hiking in Jan a couple of times. The weather can be an issue. The last time we were there, they got a big dump of snow the week before. We had sunny skies and gorgeous scenery with the remaining snow on the red rocks.
    Jan is the low season so many of the shops will be closed so traffic will be less. However, the Y near the Hyatt is a bottleneck and can be slow going at any time. We were staying at Sedona Summit at the west end of town and ended up driving through the Y area multiple times, but I don't remember it being too bad.
    At Oak Creek, you can walk across the street to hike the Bell Rock area. There are a few restaurants, but if you like to eat out, the Hyatt is a better location. I also think the Hyatt units are larger? My impression of the Ridge units is that they are smaller? I'd go with the Hyatt. It's centrally located and if you do get a snow/ice situation, you can walk where you need to for the day while things melt out.

    Sue
     
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    Absolutely agree with Sue, expect CHILLY weather. The Ridge sits right on a golf course and to my recollection the units may be larger and probably the weather will be slightly warmer (Sedona sits in a valley of sorts). There will be trails in both places (check into Red Rock Passes). The drive into Sedona from VOOC is about 8 miles and the whole purpose of the Y is to expedite traffic (you can check them out in VOOC). Sedona is a much better place for eating choices (and ice cream). The Bashas store had an in-store Starbucks and is located right near Coffee Pot Drive-what could be better; no Starbucks in VOOC.
     
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    We go every year week 50, have stayed in both places, I’d give the Hyatt 1/2 star better rating.

    1) We live in SoCal so the traffic there is nothing for us.

    2) We usually hike Bell Rock, Cathedral Rock areas, so Ridge is closer. Hyatt is only marginally better for Dry Creek Rd hikes, you still have to drive past the shopping areas where the traffic seems most concentrated.

    Hyatt has a better view and amenities at the pool area - hot tub, fire pit, steam room. Ridge only has the hot tub. Thats why we give it the slight edge.

    We use our Senior Pass, its valid for Red Rock lots.


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    Sueoz, we love winter in Sedona and and have enjoyed many stays in the Hyatt and the Ridge (and other resorts). I think it's a toss up. Like you mentioned in your first post, we've always been assigned a lower floor unit in the Hyatt, which is dark. Since we spend most of our time out hiking, staying in a nicely furnished basement isn't a deal killer, but I do enjoy having some sunshine and a view. The unit decor and pool area are definitely more upscale in the Hyatt than at the Ridge, but the Hyatt units are smaller (we usually book 2BR's). We stay for a month at a time, so a kitchen is a big deal to me and the Ridge comes out on top. The Pinon Pointe kitchen has frustratingly little storage or counter space.

    Both locations have their pluses and minuses. The Hyatt is at the Y, so I love being able to walk to all the uptown Sedona and Talaquepaque restaurants and shops. Of course, the shops at Pinon Pointe are right there. We don't drive down to the Village for meals when we stay in Sedona proper, so it's fun to try them out when we stay at the Ridge - Cucina Rustica, Rotten Johnny's, Corner Table, Juniper, the friendly local hangout PJ's (good happy hour) and others. No Starbucks in VOC, but try the local coffee shops like Firecreek and Oak Creek Espresso!

    We tend to do different hikes based on where we stay. If you know where you want to hike, that might make a difference.

    Having the choice of the Hyatt or the Ridge is a win/win decision either way! (We'll be staying in both this winter.)

    I forgot to add that if you're buying an Interval Getaway, note that the Hyatt charges a $20/nt resort fee now. The Ridge doesn't have a resort fee through Interval - yet.
     
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    Thank you all for your thoughtful replies! The end result is that there is no clear cut answer. We have hiked Sedona before many years ago so I looked up what hikes we did and where they were. There were many that we have to use 89A for and some right near the Y, so I think we just need to deal with whatever traffic we get. We like to start early so that should help at least on our way out. The subterranean rooms at the Hyatt still bother me but not the end of the world. thanks again,
    Sue
     
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    Hyatt has a lot of units with bad views, but a few are good, and a handful of units have magnificent views. To get those, you need to rent an HRPP reservation from an owner.
     
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    When there are two options and both appear roughly equal...it really doesn't matter which you choose. They both have a lot of positive attributes and are generally better than the other choices.

    I've stayed at both the Hyatt and the Ridge. I would give the Hyatt an extra 1/2 star like someone else mentioned. I like being able to walk to the Sound Bites restaurant and the Cowboy Club. There is significantly better availability at the Ridge.

    I enjoy hiking Bell rock/court house rock as well as the Chapel trail, the broken arrow trail plus the airport loop. I've taken each multiple times and it doesn't matter if I'm re-doing it. It is still fun and beautiful. I haven't found the Sedona traffic to be all that bad. But maybe I have been lucky.

    I usually get a subterranean room (a low room looking into the side of a hill or bank). It is still pleasant.

    Golfing in January? I've read that at least some of the courses will not operate if there is snow or will delay the opening (shotgun start?) to allow the snow to melt and the grass to thaw to keep the golfers from damaging the turf. I don't know this as a fact, but it is something that I've read. I'm hoping that some golfers with January/Feb Sedona experience will add their comments.
     
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    When we've stayed at the Ridge, it's been fun to explore the trails south of Sedona. We've really enjoyed hiking Turkey Creek, Baldwin, Hiline, Templeton, Slim Shady, Easy Breezy, Little Horse, etc.

    We've been in Sedona in January when the weather has been spectacularly pleasant and great for golf. Last year was crazy, though, with heavy wet snow which caused lots of damage to trees.
     
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    We love Sedona in January! Yes it can be cold but coming from the Houston area in Texas, its refreshing. Most shops are open and restaurants are much easier to get in as it is the "off" season. Ask for the top units in Phase 1. These have the best views. Weekends have some crowd issues as people come up from Phoenix but the week days are great!
     
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    Hi again,
    This question was worth asking, as I've gotten lots of related info! If nothing else, the replies have gotten me to start looking at hikes and making myself pick some we haven't done before. There are so many! The cold won't bother us, golfing or hiking. I'm hoping the Hyatt will at least look at requests - we are celebrating an anniversary and would be thrilled with any view better than a wall. We'll have a great time anyway and I appreciate so much all the replies.
    Sue
     
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    Even if you get a first floor there is always the pool deck. It's the best view for happy hour watching the rocks change colors as the sun sets. Take an adult beverage and sit at the fire pit.

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    If you got the res through an exchange, most likely you will be given the unit that you were assigned initially. Of the six times that I've been there that is my own experience. Same with Hyatt Highlands Inn. If you are logged in to Interval, go to My History, then exchanges, find the Sedona exchange and see that it lists as actual unit number. Do a google search for hyatt pinon point resort layout and find where your unit is located. With a previous exchange we had unit 0922. That translates into bldg 9, 2nd floor, unit 2. Another previous exchange was 0812B (or A). So we got building 8, 1st floor, unit 2 (the B side of the 2 BR lock-off). I have tried (more than once) at Pinon pointe to get moved to another unit and was unsuccessful. They told me that if the unit is taken out of service (i.e. problems) that I would be assigned another unit. Otherwise I would get what the original owner deposited. I've also found the same situation at the Highlands Inn and because of my wife's issues with mobility (she was using either a cane or a walker), then moved us from a 2 floor town home to a single floor unit.

    If you have a second floor unit, you have a higher chance of a view from either the efficiency patio or the main patio. Most of our units have been lower floor and looking into a side of an incline. But it was private, we could feel the breeze and hear the birds. It was quite pleasant.
     
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    Your post is very helpful, BJRSanDiego. Thank you. I went back through my history to check if I got the units on my confirmations in the past, and you're right! Next year's confirmation is for a second floor unit (1321), so I'm curious to see if we get it, and what kind of view it will have. (I've only had "dungeon villas" before.)

    TUG has a map of Pinon Pointe in the Resorts and Reviews section. https://tug2.com/timeshare-resort/default.aspx?Hyatt-Pinon-Pointe-Sedona-AZ&ID=13855
     
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    All this info is great. I will try to see if I can figure out our room from 10 years ago. And maybe I can at least get an idea of what to expect this time. Whatever it is - we’ll have a great time.
    Thanks
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    BJRSanDiego - thanks for the insight on the unit numbers. My upcoming one is 0921. If your formula is right - that will be great. We shall see. My number from 10 years ago followed the formula and was subterranean.
    Anyway - thanks again.
    Sue
     
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    Earlier this year we stayed in unit 0922. Same bldg, same floor, just next door. I recall that the view from the main unit (which faces east and towards the activity center was a garden view, but the view from the efficiency (facing to the west) was pretty good and you could see the red rocks. But both views were pleasant. We weren't overlooking a road, trash collection, or a brick wall.
     
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    Sounds sooo much better. Now we’ll see if it works. :)
     

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