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replacement hot water heater

Discussion in 'TUG Lounge' started by tschwa2, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. Bucky

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    I see plenty of recommendations to shop the big box stores but what they didn’t mention is these stores also have sub contractors that will do the installation for a set price. Because I am no longer able to lift much I had them do our two new toilets. Very reasonably priced. And paid for up front so no surprises! It always helps that I stockpile Lowe’s gift cards I buy on eBay for a 10% discount and then get another 10% military discount at time of use.
     
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    Everyone should check their own state laws regarding DIY work, permitting, inspections, etc. I don't see the point in trying to scare someone into spending money they might not need to spend.

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    I never got a permit when we replaced our old boiler and hot water heater with the System 2000 system. We used a local reputable installer. Didn't say anything about permits. I never would think you would need one for that.

    Anyway, this permit business is getting out of hand I think. Permits for this; permits for that. On your own property. SMH.....
     
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    I agree that the permit requirements are getting a little out of hand. It seems that they are more to generate revenue for the issuing body sometimes. I disagree strongly with the premiss that if you don't have one your insurance is void. That's nonsense. In order to void your insurance the carrier would have to show that some construction was performed in a shoddy manor that contributed directly to the loss. However not having all the correct permits will definitely cause problems in selling your home if the buyer or the mortgage lender raise the issue. In that case getting a permit is a simple application in most cases but a permit is just that a, permit. When the permitted work is complete then you apply for a CO (certificate of occupancy), that's when the inspection comes in not when you get a permit. Permits can be renewed almost indefinitely in some cases.

    +1 on the tankless water heater. In order to extend the life of your current WH open the drain cock on the bottom every 6 months or so and drain a quart of water out. This prevents the minerals in the water from etching and eventually breaking the glass liner in the WH.
     
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    Unfortunately tankless water heater runs only on gas. We have no gas in our building. We love our recirculating pump. It is always hot when you turn on a tap, but it also uses quite a bit more electricity.
     
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    There are electric tankless water heaters, but of course you would need 220/240 volt electric service.

    Kurt
     
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    Regarding tankless water heaters -- one issue that many do not realize is that performance (flow rate) can be greatly affected by your cold water temperature. If you are in an area where your cold water is 60 degrees or better, tankless WH can work great. However, if you are in a part of the country where your cold water is 50, 40, or even colder, the flow rate of a standard tankless system can be an issue and you probably will need a higher BTU (more expensive) unit.

    Kurt
     
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    Mm.. I just checked it out and yes there are electric models. I will check with our in house engineer who is also our HOA president as to whether it is a technical issue or not. The plumber told us it could not be done.
     
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  9. PigsDad

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    It might be an electrical service capacity issue. Some of those electric models can pull 150 Amps!

    Kurt
     

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