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Renting Wyndham Out

Discussion in 'Wyndham Vacation Resorts' started by skotm, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. skotm

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    Question. If I decide to go with Wyndham and cant use all my points/want to pay MF's etc...
    Can I only rent out my home resort? Or can I rent any resort? I saw some messages on the rental forums and want to make sure.

    Thank you for helping me to my Due Diligence.
     
  2. Richelle

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    Yes. You can rent it any resort your points are allowed to book.


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    You will need to issue a guest certificate to whoever is actually going to physically be there to check in. If they need to change the name on the guest cert, it will cost you a another GC so make sure they know it will cost them $129 to change the name, because that’s what a guest cert cost.


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  4. vacationhopeful

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    AND no overlapping reservations for EVEN 1 night without a Guest Certificate on ALL but one reservation. NOT via resort bookings but under your MEMBER NUMBER.
     
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    Guest certificates online only cost $99 but are $129 if you call in to add the guest if you don't have any free ones.
     
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    Again thank you all --!! great community
     
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    You can not rent out what you book through Club Pass (worldmark) or RCI. You can only rent out what you book directly through Wyndham.
     
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    Linda, just curious, do you mean overlapping reservations at multiple resorts? I make multiple room reservations at the same resort for the same time all the time.
     
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    Wyndham's new rules (effective May 2017) state that overlapping reservations must have another owner's name or a guest certificate. If not, reservations may be canceled.
     
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    Ahh ok, that makes sense.
     
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    And it applies to reservations at same or different resorts if it overlaps ... held in the same name .. both gets cancelled .. with a LOST of ALL points used to book those reservations at or inside the 14 days before checkin.
     
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    I can't agree that it "make sense" but that's the new rule. I liked it better the old way.

    Fortunately I have my adult children on a contract... added them a few years ago (when the transfer fee was only about $100) since they occasionally travel without me.
     
  13. James Pegram

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    I guess that's to try and curtail those trying to make a business out of the secondary market. Good to know, thanks.
     
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    Do you or anyone else know if this applies to ARP reservations? I thought the rule previously wasn't applicable if you had used ARP points for the reservations but I cant seem to find it written anywhere.
    Thanks
     
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    As you say, in the past the 10 nightly limit rules didn’t apply to arp reservations. The theory was that these are units you own. You are not using the exchange benefits provided by the club

    To elaborate; the club is at its heart is an exchange club. You use points that come from a deeded ownership at one resort for a reservation at another resort. When you stay at your own property you are not exchanging; you are not going through the club. So club rules don’t apply, and you can have as many reservations as your ownership supports

    But as has been said, there are new rules now designed to curtail the mega renters. For all I know they may have abandoned the idea that ownership is sacred in an effort to make it even more difficult to make money renting

    Having said all that, you can test it. Make 10 arp reservations and see if the system allows #11

    There are other things that Wyndham has done to make life difficult for renters. Now if you have overlapping reservations you have to add a guests name within 48 hours. So if you make multiple reservations and don’t have renters lined up you have to add a dummy guests. And then when you do have a guest for a reservation you change the name... $99 each time after you have used your allotment of “free” guest confirms
     
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    Thank you for the informative reply (as usual).
    I dont have enough ARP points to make 10 ARP reservation I reserved 2 (different names and different resorts) with my ARP I guess I can try at 10 months to see if it allows a 3rd for the same dates but I dont want to lose the points.
     
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    I would love to get some specifics/advice on how to best rent out Wyndham points to cover MFs. It seems several folks on here are doing this on a regular basis with varying amounts of success. Some say that are covering ALL MFs using a portion of their annualized points, others not so much. For those of you who ARE covering your MFs in entirety or even in part, are you willing to share your methods?
     
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    They would be best not to. This led to the downfall before and Wyndham changing the rules. Hard work, trial and error and luck is a good method. Gold is good but you are competing with platinums. Your costs will always be higher. Not suggesting you go out and but more retail points.
     
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    That’s not really true.

    Renting is still allowed, or at least tolerated when done on a modest scale.

    When Wyndham came after us they hung their hat on two things. The personal use provision that says commercial use is prohibited; and the no unfair advantage clause

    So in my case with 90 million points in reservations it was hard to argue that my accounts were for personal use. And although I argued that cancel/rebook/upgrade did not take anything away from other owners and did not make it easier to make a reservationahead of any other owner, As you know, wyndham disagreed

    In my opinion, based on my own experience and conversations others in similar situations as us and with wyndhams legal dept. I’m pretty sure that if you do just a few reservations in a small account and don’t break any rules, wyndham will leave you alone

    I would define small account as something under 5 million points

    So then the question becomes: can you make enough reservations with a portion of your points to pay the maintenance fees on all your points, leaving you with some free vacations

    In my opinion to make enough to cover your fees and get free vacations for yourself you need to make high value reservations, 10 to 13 months in advance. My favorite example is Mardi Gras at Avenue Plaza. A studio week there is 126000 points. They sleep 4 and I rented them for $1500

    Do ten of these (1,260,000 points) to generate $15000 and you will have enough to pay mf on 2,500,000 points

    The thing is that there are not many reservations as cheap as these that can be rented for as much

    Good luck to hitchhiker
     
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    As 3 is less than 10 you should be fine
     
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    Yes, but charge $129. If someone needs a last minute change and you cannot do it online for some reason (site down, no internet access), it will cost you $129. If they decide they want to make it cheaper after the fact, because it can be done online, that’s up to them. Always tell them it will be $129 in the event you end up having to pay the extra $30. Plus, the higher it goes, the less likely they are to make a name change and cost you another GC. If you are only allowed two and they make a name change, that’s one less you have for yourself. I don’t think they will allow you to buy one if you already have one. So if you need one for yourself later, it will cost you $99 or $129.


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