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The Mayor, Marriott, and developers broke ground last Friday. The Mayor said he was very happy that the $600M 35-story tower would bring affordability to Portland.
The development is a mixed-use development, with 138 residences (condos).. Assume these will somehow be available via Bonvoy and/or DC Points??
The Mayor, Marriott, and developers broke ground last Friday. The Mayor said he was very happy that the $600M 35-story tower would bring affordability to Portland.
The development is a mixed-use development, with 138 residences (condos).. Assume these will somehow be available via Bonvoy and/or DC Points??
Besides it being a 'vacant space' on the MVC/RC map, I struggle to understand why Portland? My last visit there was underwhelming, other than a strong food truck scene. Extremely high rates of vagrancy and panhandling (which was a real downer from a tourism standpoint), not to mention a strong Antifa presence. I guess I must be missing something. As far as filling 'vacant space' geographically, I would have leaned more toward Seattle than Portland as far as putting a pin in that part of the MVC/RC map, but that's just me.
The Mayor, Marriott, and developers broke ground last Friday. The Mayor said he was very happy that the $600M 35-story tower would bring affordability to Portland.
The development is a mixed-use development, with 138 residences (condos).. Assume these will somehow be available via Bonvoy and/or DC Points??
There was no quote from the mayor in that release - did he really say he was excited for the affordability of a Ritz Carlton? That doesn't sound right to me...
Given this is a Marriott International full ownership and hotel project, I doubt it will be available with DC points. Maybe if there are a few unsold units at the end VAC could buy them and put them in the trust, but I doubt they would find that cost effective. There is a hotel portion, so bonvoy points will be useable there.
Supposedly it's in the form of payments and in lieu payments for affordable housing.. Probably the residences themselves will be footing a lot of that.
Besides it being a 'vacant space' on the MVC/RC map, I struggle to understand why Portland? My last visit there was underwhelming, other than a strong food truck scene. Extremely high rates of vagrancy and panhandling (which was a real downer from a tourism standpoint), not to mention a strong Antifa presence. I guess I must be missing something. As far as filling 'vacant space' geographically, I would have leaned more toward Seattle than Portland as far as putting a pin in that part of the MVC/RC map, but that's just me.
Besides it being a 'vacant space' on the MVC/RC map, I struggle to understand why Portland? My last visit there was underwhelming, other than a strong food truck scene. Extremely high rates of vagrancy and panhandling (which was a real downer from a tourism standpoint), not to mention a strong Antifa presence. I guess I must be missing something. As far as filling 'vacant space' geographically, I would have leaned more toward Seattle than Portland as far as putting a pin in that part of the MVC/RC map, but that's just me.
I agree
We are actually in Seattle now and although they have their issue as well, there seems to be less of it. At least what we have noticed or just where we’ve been so far??
Portland is beginning to look a lot like LA
My guess is that the city is forking over a lot of perks to the developers such as discounted land ( maybe even free?? ) and tax cuts etc to get this done
To clean up an area you have to start somewhere and maybe this is their long term plan??
The Mayor, Marriott, and developers broke ground last Friday. The Mayor said he was very happy that the $600M 35-story tower would bring affordability to Portland.
The development is a mixed-use development, with 138 residences (condos).. Assume these will somehow be available via Bonvoy and/or DC Points??
Besides it being a 'vacant space' on the MVC/RC map, I struggle to understand why Portland? My last visit there was underwhelming, other than a strong food truck scene. Extremely high rates of vagrancy and panhandling (which was a real downer from a tourism standpoint), not to mention a strong Antifa presence. I guess I must be missing something. As far as filling 'vacant space' geographically, I would have leaned more toward Seattle than Portland as far as putting a pin in that part of the MVC/RC map, but that's just me.
DITTO, who visits Portland? or Seattle, or Alaska??? All too close to Russia, I heard.
Only if you have family that somehow got lost and were found on the doorsteps of
one of those big unheard-of companies.......like Amazon, Starbucks, Boeing, Costco, Nike....whatever.....or THA (aka Tree Huggers Anonymous).
Even Sherlock Holmes, as hard as he looked, could never find a carbon footprint anywhere.
So the Mayor says "Now Portland will have affordability".
Great, worth every penny, as "Room with a View" has no meaning there.
Interesting if you try to find something comparable to a Vacation Club project, at least in terms of size. My thoughts were Paul Anka's old site, now the Grand Chateau which was a 33 story tower that costs $300M in 2003. Prime Vegas strip is 1/2 the price of PDX!?
They must be loading up on those GREAT Oregon wines....world-class Pinot Noir, Pinot Gris, etc.
Now, I would go there to make the rounds at the wineries.
"Life in Oregon is a state of wine"........uhhhh, mind.
I'm not saying don't go to Portland. It's just not one of the first places I think of when planning my vacations. I can think of plenty of other 'touristy' destinations where there is no vacation club presence, that I would definitely consider going to (especially interior US), including national/cultural landmarks (Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Niagara Falls, Mount Rushmore, Nashville aka Music City USA, etc.) or destination locations for East Coast snow skiing, hiking, caving, etc. (not the same as West Coast I know but doesn't require flying). May never happen, but a guy can dream.
I'm not saying don't go to Portland. It's just not one of the first places I think of when planning my vacations. I can think of plenty of other 'touristy' destinations where there is no vacation club presence, that I would definitely consider going to (especially interior US), including national/cultural landmarks (Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Niagara Falls, Mount Rushmore, Nashville aka Music City USA, etc.) or destination locations for East Coast snow skiing, hiking, caving, etc. (not the same as West Coast I know but doesn't require flying). May never happen, but a guy can dream.
While this new property may not be one, at least some of the Ritz Carlton Residences and Destination Club (RCRDC) properties are available for booking by Marriott Destination Club members. Looking in my owner account, I see 5 RCRDC locations that I can reserve.
While this new property may not be one, at least some of the Ritz Carlton Residences and Destination Club (RCRDC) properties are available for booking by Marriott Destination Club members. Looking in my owner account, I see 5 RCRDC locations that I can reserve.
My impression was the "Club" properties are the ones where we can use points. I was always under the impression the "Residences" are a different animal.
My impression was the "Club" properties are the ones where we can use points. I was always under the impression the "Residences" are a different animal.
Could be, although the RC property in San Francisco is showing on the MVCI website as the 'Ritz Carlton Club and Residences'. When I do a random search, it shows up to 2BR units available with floor plans and square footage similar to other MVCI locations.
Could be, although the RC property in San Francisco is showing on the MVCI website as the 'Ritz Carlton Club and Residences'. When I do a random search, it shows up to 2BR units available with floor plans and square footage similar to other MVCI locations.
My impression is the "Club" are the places where they sold fractionals, whereas the "Residences" are full-ownership. Maybe some locations have a mix of both, and SF may be one of those. Again, that is my understanding, and I may be incorrect because I've never studied the Ritz programs closely, since as lowly Standard Owners, we can't book there until 6 months out, and when I've shopped, there's nothing much.
Could be, although the RC property in San Francisco is showing on the MVCI website as the 'Ritz Carlton Club and Residences'. When I do a random search, it shows up to 2BR units available with floor plans and square footage similar to other MVCI locations.
My impression is the "Club" are the places where they sold fractionals, whereas the "Residences" are full-ownership. Maybe some locations have a mix of both, and SF may be one of those. Again, that is my understanding, and I may be incorrect because I've never studied the Ritz programs closely, since as lowly Standard Owners, we can't book there until 6 months out, and when I've shopped, there's nothing much.
San Francisco is listed as Ritz Carlton Club and Residences in Marriott Vacation Club's points book as well (the paper copy). All of the others are just Ritz Carlton Club. So, not sure what the differences mean, but it was always my impression that the only properties that played in the DC system were the fractionals, not the whole-ownership units. Maybe SFO has both. Maybe an RCC owner will see this thread and clear it all up.
My impression was the "Club" properties are the ones where we can use points. I was always under the impression the "Residences" are a different animal.
Ritz San Francisco does have both. When we checked in using DC points, they told us approx 75% of their units are permanent residences. In fact they have a separate elevator for the residences.
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