If your platinum yes.I just noticed that according to the website I can bank my points at any time during the year. I no longer have to have it done by the end of September? Is that a new change?
note that you can "deposit" your points into either one of the next two years, ie you can push the points forward. you can no longer pull from future years to use immediatelyI just noticed that according to the website I can bank my points at any time during the year. I no longer have to have it done by the end of September? Is that a new change?
Yes but you have to choose one year. I thought maybe you could put some in each of the next 2 years but apparently not. Due to hurricane cancellations and us using up some RCI deposits this year we still have half of our points left over not sure how to decide which year to deposit them into. Rentals didn't go as well as usual due to cancel and rebook not being available and the whole website mess
That is my understanding as well.I havent done it,, but I think you can deposit some into one year, and some into the other, and leave some in the current year
You could deposit the remainder of the 2017 points into next year and then deposit some or all of the 2018 points into 2019 and/or 2020
Of course it was a customer care person who told me I had to choose a year so we know how well informed staff seem to be.I havent done it,, but I think you can deposit some into one year, and some into the other, and leave some in the current year
You could deposit the remainder of the 2017 points into next year and then deposit some or all of the 2018 points into 2019 and/or 2020
That is my understanding as well.
And you get one shot at it. Once moved you can't move them again.
Has anyone been in a "borrowing situation"? I don't recall anyone reporting yay or nay as to if we can borrow. If you are short points and in the express window, are you able to borrow points from the next use year in order to compete your transaction?
This does not feel so bad to me.
I get 3.5M points per year. Say I have 1M points left in December I don't think I can use. I deposit them to 2018.
That gets me 4.5M pints to use in 2018. Say in December 2018 I have 2M (but up to 3.5M) points I don't think I can use. I deposit them in 2019.
WYN is not keeping track of the points specifically, right? I can deposit up to 3.5M points forward 1 or 2 years every year.
I understand I don't want to get into a situation where I have excess of 3.5M points. But I have plenty of time to figure out how to use them, rent them, deposit them to RCI. Correct?
Unless I was saving up for something special in the 2nd year, it seems logical to deposit them to the next year (versus 2nd year).
Am I missing something?
According to this post (#365)I think the seller either booked reservations, credit pooled and/or points deposited to exhaust all their 2018 & 2019 use year points. So they're saying the seller can't guarantee if any 2018/2019 points will transfer when the deed transfer is processed by Wyndham. An estoppel letter request should clear up that issue.
And, it does a pitiful job as a savings program for lower level owners. I have to 'save' uncommitted current year points on 6/30. I then have nothing left from which to make reservations in the second half of the year. Before I could use those saved points. I hate the new system!!! And, then there is the problem of points which can't be deposited a second time. If your annual allotment is 200k points and you have 100k points as a deposit, then use 200k in ARP reservations, the 100k is left and it can't be redeposited. It's an awful system for most everyone.The new points deposit feature is only for savers. no more borrowing from the pool
And, it does a pitiful job as a savings program for lower level owners. I have to 'save' uncommitted current year points on 6/30. I then have nothing left from which to make reservations in the second half of the year. Before I could use those saved points. I hate the new system!!! And, then there is the problem of points which can't be deposited a second time. If your annual allotment is 200k points and you have 100k points as a deposit, then use 200k in ARP reservations, the 100k is left and it can't be redeposited. It's an awful system for most everyone.
I plan and it works well for me. Let me say this again. You CAN NOT use deposited points for ARP reservations. So if you use all 200k on ARP reservations, you have 100k that are not eligible for redeposit and not eligible for RCI deposit. If you don't use those 100k for standard reservations, you'll be giving up those 100k points. Period.That not the way it’s supposed to work In your example you can deposit up to 200000 points each year as long as you do it before jun 30
Timeshares don’t work very well for folks that can’t plan ahead. If you don’t have your years plans in place by June, timeshares may not be right for you
I plan and it works well for me. Let me say this again. You CAN NOT use deposited points for ARP reservations. So if you use all 200k on ARP reservations, you have 100k that are not eligible for redeposit and not eligible for RCI deposit. If you don't use those 100k for standard reservations, you'll be giving up those 100k points. Period.
Timeshares don’t work very well for folks that can’t plan ahead. If you don’t have your years plans in place by June, timeshares may not be right for you
I plan and it works well for me. Let me say this again. You CAN NOT use deposited points for ARP reservations. So if you use all 200k on ARP reservations, you have 100k that are not eligible for redeposit and not eligible for RCI deposit. If you don't use those 100k for standard reservations, you'll be giving up those 100k points. Period.
I can plan 10-13 months ahead and I've been accustomed to doing that since I bought Wyndham. The problem is that if I know I'm not going to be able to use all my points this year (and I have unbalanced EOY contracts that in the past were completely manageable with the credit pool), that the new points deposit system tries to make me plan 18-36 months in advance, which I am just not that certain about. If on January 1, 2018 I know that I won't use all of my points, sure I can deposit them to the future - but now I need to know whether I plan to use them in 2019 or 2020, and if I guess wrong about my plans 2-3 years in advance, I stand to lose points to expiration. I'll probably adjust, and if I don't I'll divest of the EOY contracts accordingly, but it's a hassle either way.
I'm not sure we know that this is how the system is currently working because I don't think anyone has reached this situation yet and tried it in practice. For instance, I cannot use credit pooled points for an ARP reservation - except I can. The system will let me. I've used up all of my 2018 UY points and only have some credit pooled points that expire in 2019, and the system will let me start a reservation using them for ARP in Nov 2018. So you may be right, but I don't think we know how all of these overlapping points benefits will interact until people are actually able to put it to the test in the live system.
I only know what I was told, in writing, by a VC. And, the words backed up what the literature stated. Deposited points do not retain the same benefits as those in the current use year. You can't use deposited points for ARP. You can't redeposit deposited points. And, you can not send deposited points to RCI. So, if you use all of your current UY points for ARP reservations, you'll be sitting on deposited points. Use them for a standard reservation in the UY where they are deposited or they will expire. I think most of us have seen how they keep track of ARP points and those are the unused UY points. Any points above those available for ARP are deposited points. Use them for standard reservations or lose them. I've never lost a point since I started timesharing 15 years ago and I hope to never lose one with the new system. While I do use ARP from time to time, it's not my personal routine. For 2018, all of my bookings are <10 months out. I do not know how this will work with points covering different UY end dates and I don't know how this will work with remaining credit pooled points. But, I do know exactly what will be available in 2018 for me to deposit forward if I don't use any more points for 2018 reservations. Those who always book 10-13 months in advance could end up leaving points on the table. I hope this is NOT the case, but, what I was told makes sense, to me. And, it makes sense when I look at my personal account. As a bit of conspiracy theorist, I suspect Wyndham knew that this would happen just as they knew that VIP's will be using more points for reservations with an unpredictable cancel/rebook process. I hope no one loses points in 2018, but, this deposit feature design is set up to hurt who consistently book 10-13 months in advance. You did not have to think so hard about this with credit pooled points and I want that process back. It's sad, but the point strippers killed the credit pool.I'm not sure we know that this is how the system is currently working because I don't think anyone has reached this situation yet and tried it in practice. For instance, I cannot use credit pooled points for an ARP reservation - except I can. The system will let me. I've used up all of my 2018 UY points and only have some credit pooled points that expire in 2019, and the system will let me start a reservation using them for ARP in Nov 2018. So you may be right, but I don't think we know how all of these overlapping points benefits will interact until people are actually able to put it to the test in the live system.
It's sad, but the point strippers killed the credit pool.
You are not using your credit pooled points or your annual use year points or deposited points for ARP reservations, deposits to future years or for standard or express reservations... When you use points for any purpose, you are using points, It dosent matter which "points bucket" they are coming from
its not as bad as you say
If on Jan 1 2018, you know you wont use all your points you can deposit them into 2019 (or 2020). And if in 2019 you know you can use all your points you can deposit up to your annual allocation into 2010 or 2021
No doubt you will have to use the points you deposited, but you can always deposit up to your annual allocation each year