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OFFICIAL Vistana *2020* Maintenance Fees Thread

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Since you own Home Options at Nanea, the tax amount and MF amount are all allocated to the "Points Assessment" line item on your bill.

It appears from the photo above the tax amount stated in the post was a mistake and was actually the VSN Fee.
 

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2020: $2039.59 (without SVN fees)

vs $1977.12 in 2019

3.2% increase
 

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2020 SVR 2BR L/O at the Lakes:
2020 OPERATING ASSESSMENT $812.04
2020 REPLACEMENT RESERVES $259.28
2020 ESTIMATED REAL ESTATE TAX $197.70
2020 Total: $1269.02

2019 OPERATING ASSESSMENT $760.09
2019 REPLACEMENT RESERVES $259.28
2019 ESTIMATED REAL ESTATE TAX $174.79
2019 Total $1194.16

2020 Total increase of $74.86, 6.27% increase
 

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Anyone know what MF is on small one bedroom at SVV Bella


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Hello, quick question. Are the entry of Westin Flex Program also used for the Aventuras (Mexico properties)? Also, I got into a 109,000 annual points that I don't see listed in as part of the "unit size" drop-down. Any clue how to enter that info?
 

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Hello, quick question. Are the entry of Westin Flex Program also used for the Aventuras (Mexico properties)? Also, I got into a 109,000 annual points that I don't see listed in as part of the "unit size" drop-down. Any clue how to enter that info?
You wouldn't want to use Westin or Sheraton Flex for the Aventuras program. I also think they just added the standard SO allotments for the two flex programs in the database. Perhaps some more need to be added along with Westin Aventuras. Best to reach out to @hypnotiq
 

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You wouldn't want to use Westin or Sheraton Flex for the Aventuras program. I also think they just added the standard SO allotments for the two flex programs in the database. Perhaps some more need to be added along with Westin Aventuras. Best to reach out to @hypnotiq

Additionally, once a Westin Flex, Sheraton Flex or Aventuras program MF is added, any additional entries really don't provide more useful information since the MF is a cost/point which is the same within each respective program.
 

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Additionally, once a Westin Flex, Sheraton Flex or Aventuras program MF is added, any additional entries really don't provide more useful information since the MF is a cost/point which is the same within each respective program.

I'll just add, you can buy a package that corresponds to one of the weekly HomeOption sizes (i.e., 67,100, 81,000, 148,100 etc.) or you can buy a contract with virtually any number of points in increments of 1000.
 

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I tried looking at the various entries in the database and the MFs for various resorts are not consistent and impossible to tell what the StarOption value would have been assigned to the entries since some Highest season 2BRs can be worth less than 148.1k staroptions at certain resort locations. Was trying to see which resort(s) had the lowest Maintenance Fee per StarOption basis assuming all were bought from the developer or Mandatory (I know that's not the case but just wanted to see based on this assumption). It seems Sheraton Broadway and Sheraton Vistana Resort are cheaper than Westin Kierland Villas on a $MF per StarOption basis. Realize WKV is Mandatory while the other two are not.
 

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Not really understanding goal?
Doesn’t surprise me that there are cheaper ($/SO) for V resorts as compared to M resorts.

And certainly huge changes between seasons at same resort.

Best to compare Plat season to Plat season (like to like) between resort as Plat season have best rate (and also cost substantially more when sold by SVO/VSE).

This has been done in the past, but not inclusive of all resorts - even before database. Some info is inputted incorrectly in the database.

iirc, at one point WSJ VGV Plat+ season had an excellent $/SO value.


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I tried looking at the various entries in the database and the MFs for various resorts are not consistent and impossible to tell what the StarOption value would have been assigned to the entries since some Highest season 2BRs can be worth less than 148.1k staroptions at certain resort locations. Was trying to see which resort(s) had the lowest Maintenance Fee per StarOption basis assuming all were bought from the developer or Mandatory (I know that's not the case but just wanted to see based on this assumption). It seems Sheraton Broadway and Sheraton Vistana Resort are cheaper than Westin Kierland Villas on a $MF per StarOption basis. Realize WKV is Mandatory while the other two are not.
Keep in mind MF are assessed on the basis of unit size at each resort - so units in plat plus will pay the same as gold for example - all you really need is the highest SO value in that size and you can do the calculation. Because of the mandatory/voluntary issue Vistana is largely still a weeks based system (at least in my mind).

To make matters worse, some resorts can have the same size, same week, but different points.
For example, my plat 2BR SDO is my best unit on a MF/SO basis ($0.008/SO). But that is because it gets 148,100 SO. If I owned the same deeded week number but a different unit number it may be classified as a Gold plus week worth 81,000 and much less favourable. Keeping a database current with all these variations would be impossible.
 

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@hypnotiq - is it possible to add 2021 to the MF database?

Thanks again for keeping up this incredible resource for us!
 

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Maybe we should start a new thread for 2021 maint fees?
 

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has anyone received the bill for Sheraton Flex? I read on FB that the 2021 MF are up 7%.
 

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has anyone received the bill for Sheraton Flex? I read on FB that the 2021 MF are up 7%.

If you own Sheraton Flex you should be able to access your Vistana dashboard and check your statement.
 

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If you own Sheraton Flex you should be able to access your Vistana dashboard and check your statement.
I do not. I am just curious if it is true and why such an increase.
 

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I do not. I am just curious if it is true and why such an increase.

This was just posted on Facebook for Sheraton Flex.
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Ok, I've updated for Westin Flex Program.
Does anyone have the details for Westin Aventuras?
Aventuras-FLEX

No-Change between 2020 & 2021
148100-EY: $2170.70
MF/HO: $0.01465706

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This 2020 thread has been "unstuck" and the new 2021 thread has been "stuck" at the top of the page. When you respond in the thread, please enter your info in the database as well. THANKS!
 

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@echino - The maintenance fee you posted for 2020 looks like an EOY deed or a 1 bdm - not an annual 2 bdm:

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