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Ocean Tower inventory is loaded for 2019 reservations

Discussion in 'Hilton Grand Vacations Club / HGVC' started by buzglyd, May 11, 2018.

  1. buzglyd

    buzglyd TUG Member

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    It appears one can make reservations starting Jan 5th.

    Only 28,750 points for a 3 BR penthouse!

    I'll be at KL in September. I may have to snoop around.
     
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    Nice to see these coming on-line so quickly. However at those points rates I will need to pick up another resale or wait until GI or Tower resales come back to earth. This is a (soft) form of devaluation of the system.
     
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    This is a harbinger of things to come - 'Elite' properties in desirable locations at sky high point rates to entice existing owners to upgrade. Most likely any Maui property will be in the same rate structure.
     
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    There are lower point values in that tower also. They won't have premium views but it covers the spectrum.
     
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    I wonder how HGVC will support resale property values in the future. It is one thing to lose money on a $30 - $60k developer buy-in but if these properties fall to earth from >$100k+ price this seems like an unsustainable sales model. People who can afford that level of buy-in will buy into fractionals and condos that tend to hold their value.
     
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    And I thought that 16,800 point contract I just signed on was HUUUUUUUUUUUGE. the sight of 28,750 made me choke a little.
     
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    What location/unit type, if you don't mind me asking.
     
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    Soft indeed.
     
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    Two weeks at Valdoro, one ski one summer, both 2bed+ units.
     
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    Nice. I thought you got a single unit.
     
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    Both units are on a single contract number.
     
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    I thought ALL Valdoro was sold as a two week packages. Is this true?
     
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    No, I own ski float week only.
     
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    Was at HWV today. I was offered a presentation of the Ocean tower and I told him I was already a "resale" owner. I told the sales rep, "you guys don't like me". He laughed and still said he would give me 50k honor points and two free luau tickets for a tour. I turned him down.
     
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    I am planning a trip to HI late February/early March next year. The trip does include the BI. I am really wondering if I should book Ocean Tower over KL. If I did, it would certainly burn through a lot of points for that stay. I was reviewing the pictures on the web site but wasn't impressed with what I saw concerning how they planned to renovate the rooms. Has anyone seen a model unit? Or any other impressions of the property/rooms?
     
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    Harry and I did a tour of the model back in February and we posted some pictures. It was a well appointed unit and there were positives and negatives to it. I will stay at Kings Land or Bay Club when we return.

    Best,

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    I took these April 19th.

    They are framing a bump out between the balconies, making one unit out of two hotel rooms.

    Note that these are all at the back of the innermost ring, facing the golf course. I don’t know where the model is, didn’t inquire.

    The other shot from Buddha Point show they haven’t touched the outer OF ring. That is going to be the hardest spot to get their construction equipment in. I would have started there and moved back to minimize disruption to the other units. The yard they set up with construction containers and dumpsters is just off the back maintenance road. This morning there was a guy with a loader putting debris in the dumpster, making a hell of a racket using the bucket to compress everything in the dumpster.

    I wouldn’t want to book one of these units. We enjoyed a phase two 2br ground unit in building 22 for 7000pts a week. A short walk across the street to the super pool. Buildings 21/22 are going to be my preferred location at KL. I prefer the KL super pool to the hotel pools.

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    Thanks @SmithOp and @GregT for the information. How is (will be anyway) the view from the OV units?
     
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    JMHO... It really depends on what type of experience you’re looking for.

    If you’re planning to spend a lot of time at the Hilton Waikoloa resort and would like to stay at an oceanfront property then Ocean Tower will fit the bill.

    However if you’re basically using the accommodations as a base and planning to go off site most days then you’ll have easier access to your car from Kings Land. And you can use the free internal shuttle whenever you want to visit the Hilton Waikoloa resort.

    The Ocean tower is part of Hilton’s mega destination resort on 62 acres. Kings Land is more like an apartment complex. It’s a more relaxed quieter location compared to the Hilton hotel resort complex.
    Note: There’s also a daily parking fee at the Hilton Waikoloa resort (currently $26 per day) vs free & convenient outside your door parking at Kings Land.

    Pictures
     
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    Thanks for the replies. That really helps a lot. I think that I am leaning towards booking KL, for several of the reasons that you all have pointed out. Thanks again.
     
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    Here’s some additional info for those unfamiliar with Hilton’s 62 acre oceanfront resort destination at Waikoloa

    Hilton Waikoloa Village (HWV) Resort website - http://www.hiltonwaikoloavillage.com/about-the-resort
    My HWV Pool and Lagoon Photos - https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php...n-at-the-hilton-waikoloa-village-rock.194066/
    HWV Know before you go - https://www.hawaiimagazine.com/content/7-things-know-you-go-hilton-waikoloa-village
    Detailed Oyster review of HWV - https://www.oyster.com/hawaii/hotels/hilton-waikoloa-village/
    Waikoloa Beach resort area information- http://waikoloabeachresort.com/index.php/
    Waikoloa Area map - https://goo.gl/images/nBf9GE
     
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    Having stayed at the hotel about 10 years ago, the walk from the tower to the parking lot put me off of ever staying there again. It was a 20 min walk. It wasn't much of a time savings using the monorail. I found it very inconvenient because we were just using the resort as a base. If you were staying onsite it wouldn't be as much of an issue.

    But those points! Yowza. That's getting up there!
     
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    My husband stayed at our Bay Club timeshare when he attended a conference at the Hilton Waikoloa Hotel. He walked from our timeshare to the conference rooms and was able to get there faster then most of colleagues who stayed at the hotel.
     
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    We toured the models this last Jan. 2018 and they were very nice but "smaller" - not as big as were used to. They were also on top floor adjacent to the wing that they are remodeling. Yes ocean views but will be able to see multiple other balconies from your balcony. As noted above the part they are converting is not the best ocean view location and they face golf course with ocean beyond. Also doing extensive renovation in courtyard.
     
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    I was very impressed with the model. The OT conversion will be quie upscale. However, as pointed out above there are numerous drawbacks. If you are not a walker this location is not for you. I am and I paced the distance between 14 and 17 minutes to the lobby and then about 7 to 10 minutes to the parking lot.

    Harry
     
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