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Newbie considering Lagoon Tower 2BD/2BA Ocean Front

Discussion in 'Hilton Grand Vacations Club / HGVC' started by TRTS, Dec 23, 2017.

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    Random note, I stayed in an ocean front at Lagoon tower over thanksgiving, and it was awesome. View is spectacular, perfect view of the fireworks, etc. since I originally booked my home week to guarantee going to Hawaii, then swapped to OV since it was open. Totally worth it on booking the room, I think at this price I might pass on this if you can get 7K points @ $1 per point elsewhere.

    I bought a dumpster view 2br at Lagoon for $5.6K last year (from Judi), so paying an extra $12K for OV seems pretty rough to me (although the extra points and current pricing would suggest there is less of a gap that $12K).
     
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    Thare, you've swapped from ocean Front to ocean View in your message, so it's not clear which you had. And I'm not following on the points. If you bought a 2br non-view, that's a lot fewer points than an ocean view, which is fewer again than ocean front. How'd you "swap?"
     
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    Sorry, I meant swap my booking from my home week in a "garden view" 2br to an "ocean front" 2br. I borrowed points from 2018 to pay the difference. My point is that the home week was effective in ensuring I got a room in Hawaii, and when a better one opened up, I was able to switch to the better room (although paid more points). I think as someone with vacation restrictions, the home week in hawaii is pretty handy.

    Given my experience, I don't know if I'd pay more than double per point for guaranteed OV or OF vs garden view, especially since I don't go to Hawaii every year. That being said, the OF view was spectacular, and easily the best view I've ever had outside of >$800 hotel rooms.
     
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    That's really the point I think. It's a matter of personal preference, affordability, etc. We go every year, and, while ocean front is great, as long as we have ocean view I'm okay with it. I just can't see the point of going to Hawaii and not having a great ocean view! And, because we go every year, home week is great, and we don't have that flexibility you have to borrow points to upgrade if it becomes available.
     
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    I think you mistakenly transposed your numbers above.
    Here’s what you posted in January 2017 for your two bedroom standard view in Platinum Season @Lagoon Tower.

    NOTE: I won’t refer to standard view as dumpster view. Standard view (aka GV - Garden View) is just on the lower floors of the Lagoon Tower. As an owner, if you checkin on the designated checkin date, they will most likely try to assign you a higher floor in that category. The two bedrooms GV units at the corners of the buildings are non-lockoff units (but right next to the parking garage) vs the other two bedrooms GV units which are lockoff units.


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    So, looking at that graphic, and comparing with the website, on the website they describe three 2-bedroom options: 2-bedroom, 2-bedroom Plus, and 2-bedroom Premier, and two 3-bedroom Plus options.

    The 2-bedroom can be 2BR or or 2RL. Both are "garden view."
    The 2-bedroom Plus can be 2BP or or 2PL. Both are "ocean view." The PL can be a lock-off.

    The 2-bedroom Premier can be 2BX or 2LX.
    - 2LX is described as "penthouse ocean view," two-story. That's 24th floor.
    - 2BX is described as "ocean front" located on floors 3-23.

    The 3-bedroom Plus units are both two-story, ocean view units on the 24th floor.

    Reconciling with the graphic, the "2bed OF" are the 2-bedroom Premier 2BX units, as they are the only ones that say "ocean front." (In my opinion, they are the best units.)

    The 2-Bedroom Plus units are the ones designated as "OV" on the graphic.

    Two of the 3-bedroom units are ocean front, but they don't appear to have any special designation.
     
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    The sticky thread has all of room mapping’s.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification, since I never actually stayed there. Yeah sorry, was 6500. I think all in with everything was $7K with current year points and all fees.
     
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    Hey folks, I wanted to say THANKS AGAIN to the community for your help here. Unfortunately, my bid of 20,000 plus 2018 maintenance fees failed ROFR. I have updated ROFR.net.

    Too bad, but I truly appreciate all the support that the community offered. Best wishes everyone.
     
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    Remember...If at first you don't succeed, try, try again.

    Thanks for the update :thumbup:
     
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    I am very surprised but agree with @alwysonvac. Keep trying. I think that the new year with new rofr budgets got you.
     
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    Consider stepping back a notch to ocean view instead of ocean front. That's what I did. Yes, OF is wonderful. But the OV are great too, and there are a lot more of them. I purchased 8400 pt Lagoon Tower, which is Ocean View, 2-bed, platinum season, for $15.5k in mid-2017.
     
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    FWIW. . I heard from a reputable broker that when GI first began sales that prices at Lagoon were depressed e.g. 8400 pt OVs were passing ROFR at $10k. Once GI openned, prices and ROFR seem to be going up again.

    It seems the same is happening in NYC with the Residences sales and W 57. Last year resales were running $5k to $9k higher for same unit. Residences open mid 2018.

    Wonder if same temporary dip will happen on Big Island when Ocean Tower starts sales.
     
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    Great database!
    Would be nice to have a column of points added so that one could determine what kind of bedroom had been bought.
    E.g. ,I see a Kings Land 2bd sale at $15k. For a phase 1 unit that would be a good/ great buy, for a phase 2 not so much...
     

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