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New II OGS search feature for larger units than deposit

Discussion in 'Exchanging' started by mdurette, Jul 1, 2018.

  1. mdurette

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    I just happened to "review" an OGS search I have established in II and noticed they now offer the option to upgrade into larger units automatically. You tell them what you will accept and agree to pay the corresponding upgrade fee.

    Love it - I am using a 1BR to search with right now and typically will take what I can get and then hopefully Eplus to a larger unit later. I just may not have to watch the instants to eplus if something ends up confirming from the get-go!
     
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    That's really great! Yes, I just said that about II's website.
     
  3. VacationForever

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    This certainly takes away my angst and makes II trades more valuable again. Because we live on the west coast, there is really no hope for me to catch bulk deposits that take place in my sleeping hours or so and I usually want to trade a smaller unit for a larger unit or locations with only larger units.
     
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    Looks like you can get around the like for like rule with this. Just set the smallest unit you will accept to be larger than your current unit size, though this does make the match harder.
     
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    Interval came thru for it’s members. Will get on later to check it out. Crossing my fingers it is working right.
     
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    That’s the first “enhancement” they’ve made in a long time I actually like.
     
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    Just when we thought we will rarely be using II anymore, with this enhancement we are now planning to use it more in the future.
     
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    Do you know if a match is made, upgrade fee is paid per this automated process, and then you cancel within 24 hours, is the upgrade fee refunded?

    I would assume so, but then again I don't like to assume. Does anyone know?

    Ryan

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    I walked through the process and it said that the fee is only charged when a match is successful and you have to set up your credit card on file. I assume the upgrade fee is refunded if you cancel within 24 hours. In the past I have done ePlus and the upgrade fee that has been collected stays in "memory" and it does not charge me again when I book the same size that I had previously paid. I assume it will collect again for another room size if you ePlus to another size up.
     
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    I saw this new feature earlier today when I made a change to an OGS. I like the automatic upgrade and payment if a match is made. Before this change I was concerned that I wouldn’t be available when they would call to say they have a match with a larger unit, but they need payment to finalize it. This eliminates that concern.

    Best regards.

    Mike
     
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    From II FAQs:

    Q. Will I get a chance to upgrade my unit size if I place an exchange request?


    • Depending on availability, you may be offered the chance to request a Unit-Size Upgrade while placing an exchange request. When placing your request, you will be asked to provide your payment information in advance, and, if confirmed to a larger unit, you will be charged a Unit-Size Upgrade fee.

    Q. What if my exchange request is confirmed, but the Unit-Size Upgrade I requested was not available?


    • If your exchange request is confirmed, but there is no Unit-Size Upgrade available, you will not be charged the Unit-Size Upgrade fee.

    Q. I cancelled my exchange. Do I receive a refund for my Unit-Size Upgrade fee?


    • The refund of Unit-Size Upgrade fees operates the same way as the refund of exchange fees does. If your cancellation is within 24 hours of your exchange confirmation, your Unit-Size Upgrade fee will be refunded. If a cancellation is made after 24 hours, no fees will be refunded.
     
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    And just like that the upgrade fees are worth it...
     
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    Great news for all OGS users! I really can't recall a decent enhancement in recent times. Truly amazing!
     
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    You speaking of me? :)

    But is your math off? If I see a real time unit show up at 3AM central time, isn't that 1AM PST, i.e., easier for you? Other than you may not be a night owl like me and may work unlike me.
     
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    10pm in bed, sleeping by 11pm at the latest. :)
     
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    Wow, then you are right, this change is great for you! Heck, we went to see a movie last night which started at 11PM....

    What is the world coming to though. First some good MVCI website changes, and now II changes. I don't know if I can stand it!
     
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    In summer I wake up at 6am, sometimes at 5am. When the sun is up, I am up! :) Also, we book our golf rounds between 6am to 7am, so it means we need to be up at 5am on those days. Later means it gets too hot to be out golfing.
     
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    Nah, just another nickle and dime fee. They could have done this without the upgrade fee. Especially for people who paid to become enrolled with the promise that all Marriott to Marriott trades would be fee free. Not true since the upgrade fee was added.
     
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    Just did my first request using the new feature. Terms & condition that you agree to during the process.
    “Terms & Conditions
    You agree to pay a Unit-Size Upgrade fee based on your Interval membership tier. If confirmed, you will be charged the Unit-Size Upgrade fee corresponding to the size of the upgraded unit. If your membership tier changes prior to the confirmation date, you will be charged based on your membership tier’s Unit-Size Upgrade fee structure at the time of confirmation.

    If the Unit-Size Upgrade fee changes before your request is confirmed and you have not made modifications to your request, you will be charged based on the Unit-Size Upgrade fee that was in effect when the request was made. If the Unit-Size Upgrade fee increases before your request is confirmed and you have modified your request, you will be charged the increased fee which displayed when you modified your request.”
     
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    I take it to mean 2 things like how it is listed, it will be based on your membership level and that II intends increase unit-size upgrade fees periodically.
     
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    I have been talking about this for a long time. That is a great upgrade to the system and will save those annoying II telephone calls. Now I will go ahead and lock-off my Marriott weeks again and make double the deposits.
     
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    I am not saying that adding the fees was the best way to do it, it wasn't, but how do you allow everyone to size upgrade? For every member that wants to upgrade a studio to a 2BR there needs to be a member willing to downgrade a 2BR to a studio. Everyone thinks they paid for the right to size upgrade and nobody wants to downgrade. Where are all these larger units coming from?
     
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    If Marriott sold it saying trades would always be free in II, being upset should be with Marriott sales lies not II.

    Timesharing has envolved and with all the systems out there things has to change. In order for members who own prime weeks in desirable places to deposit and for those deposits to continue, you need to set up a system to compete and get these members equivalent trades.

    Whereas first I was upset with the upgrade fee I now actually now am ok with it. Yes, they are making more money but that aside, II gives me a better chance of getting trades I want using my best trading weeks. I am not competing with others who own less desirable weeks.

    RCI allows other members to combine, extend and pay. I stopped giving RCI my prime weeks as I never get matched with prime weeks. I am sure many have combine tpus and extended expiration’s and there is a long list waiting to be matched. My winter week in Marco Island has no value in RCI, I give them to II.

    As I see it II has a two tier system, first the quality of resort with the demand of the week and second, size. People before were grabbing the largest units available even if not needed because it was free, including me.

    If I trade my one bedroom Marco Island Prime week for a two bedroom Sanibel week, I smile, I got it and am ok paying the fee.
     
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    I do think their is one caveat here that we do need to think about.

    Just because you have the option to set up the OGS for larger units, doesn't necessarily mean that you will get one if available if II sticks with their typical trade power.

    Example: I have a 1BR non rated resort that I can only ever "see" Marriott Studios with during prime weeks at prime resorts. Even though I could put in a request for a larger unit...if my original deposit only has enough to pull smaller units, then I'm thinking the larger units will still not match.

    Make sense?
     
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    I do agree that the past system was unsustainable, though it never really had to be that way. Should my studio have always been able to gran 2BR and 3BR units. No. They should have allocated their trade power accordingly. It has long been a broken system. The new system allows II to monetize it where had they restricted access to larger units under the old system, they may have had people flee instead.
     

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