New 2018 Club Rules and Fees has been released.

[GT75]

I see that HGVC has posted the new 2018 Rules and Fees. Has anyone had a chance to review yet for significant changes?

 

[Jason245]

looks like only 1 inventory activation fee (no longer one for resale vs direct). $366.

All other fees went up by a few bucks including RCI fees.

 

[jestme]

Most Open Season rates have gone up (again!). Also, it appears that 2BR+ and 2BRPrem are now the same $ price, but not point price. They were not the same $ price last year.

 

[dsmrp]

$239 for an RCI week exchange fee is ridiculous!
It just keeps going up, feels like every 6 months or so...
I did make an exchange last week at $230, only because there were 2018 week 51 units available, and the dates were just right.

 

[Talent312]

And I thought $219 for an RCI week was absurd.
No more for me. Well, prolly no more. Unless...
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[Panina]

$239 for an RCI week exchange fee is ridiculous!
It just keeps going up, feels like every 6 months or so...
I did make an exchange last week at $230, only because there were 2018 week 51 units available, and the dates were just right.

No thought from hgvc, desirable properties and nothing good negotiated for their members.

RCI just as bad. They are making it better for hgvc affiliates to deposit in II if they are affiliated if they want to trade.

 

[jehb2]

And I thought $219 for an RCI week was absurd.
No more for me. Well, prolly no more. Unless...
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+1

 

[hurnik]

Yeah, I avoid RCI when possible.
But if you want something in Key West, you aren't gonna get anything with HGVC. To rent The Galleon via Redweek is gonnna cost you about $2500-3000 for a 1 BR.

I got it for 3400 points and even with the $230 RCI fee, it was like $840 or something for the entire week, which I still think is extremely reasonable.

I don't have access to II, so I know nothing about the fees there.

 

[frank808]

Yeah, I avoid RCI when possible.
But if you want something in Key West, you aren't gonna get anything with HGVC. To rent The Galleon via Redweek is gonnna cost you about $2500-3000 for a 1 BR.

I got it for 3400 points and even with the $230 RCI fee, it was like $840 or something for the entire week, which I still think is extremely reasonable.

I don't have access to II, so I know nothing about the fees there.

Much more reasonable in II. Trades are $189 per trade. But when I trade my Marriott to another Marriott, trades are just $134.

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[jehb2]

Yeah, I avoid RCI when possible.
But if you want something in Key West, you aren't gonna get anything with HGVC...it was like $840 or something for the entire week, which I still think is extremely reasonable.

I hate to admit it but that's like the Manhattan Club. They have a $54.51 a day housekeeping fee plus the RCI reservation fee. However, it only cost us 2400 points. So even if you factor in the percentage of our MF it's still a better deal than a New York Hotel.

That said, I find myself using AirBnB now when I would have used RCI in the past. I find AirBnb to be a little nerve racking-having to pay upfront and hoping all will be okay. But so far we've stayed in some fabulous places for very reasonable costs.

 

[tschwa2]

Much more reasonable in II. Trades are $189 per trade. But when I trade my Marriott to another Marriott, trades are just $134.

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FYI II went up $10 per exchange as of 1/1/18 with less than 2 weeks notice only if you specifically looked for the change.

Trades are now $199 and M to M are $144. Guest Certificates through II are $69. Interval is trying hard to keep up with RCI price increases.

 

[frank808]

FYI II went up $10 per exchange as of 1/1/18 with less than 2 weeks notice only if you specifically looked for the change.

Trades are now $199 and M to M are $144. Guest Certificates through II are $69. Interval is trying hard to keep up with RCI price increases.

Dang didn't even know as I haven't had any trades for this year yet.

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[brp]

It looks like the guest fee went down, from $52 to $49. Minor plus

Cheers.

 

[CanuckTravlr]

It's interesting that they have the 2018 Club Rules, Fee Schedule and Vacation Planning Calendar posted now, but not yet the 2018 Club Affiliated Resort Seasons chart. I find the latter very useful for figuring out where and when to maximize my points value. The website is still showing the 2017 version. Surely by now they know when the seasons will be for 2018 for the various clubs.

 

[PigsDad]

It's interesting that they have the 2018 Club Rules, Fee Schedule and Vacation Planning Calendar posted now, but not yet the 2018 Club Affiliated Resort Seasons chart. I find the latter very useful for figuring out where and when to maximize my points value. The website is still showing the 2017 version. Surely by now they know when the seasons will be for 2018 for the various clubs.

To my knowledge, the seasons do not change from year to year. If week 42 (for example) was a Silver week in the 2017 chart, it will be a Silver week this year.

Kurt

 

[CanuckTravlr]

To my knowledge, the seasons do not change from year to year. If week 42 (for example) was a Silver week in the 2017 chart, it will be a Silver week this year.

Kurt

I know they don't change that much, but I thought there might be some minor changes, particularly around weeks like Easter or special events, depending upon when they fall. They did change the title in 2017 to show the current year, so I had assumed they would do the same this year. Otherwise, I would have expected just the title without the year and an "effective" date somewhere on the form. But maybe I'm just being overly logical (lol)!!

 

[PigsDad]

I've never seen them change. Think about it -- how would it work if someone owned a fixed week, and one year it is worth 5000 points, and the next 7000? I think the only reason they had a date on that chart was because from year to year the list of resorts may change.

I could be wrong, but like I said, I have never seen seasons change by the week.

Kurt

 

[Talent312]

I know they don't change that much, but I thought there might be some minor changes...

The season chart applies to each resort's description, and is not part of the annual publication of rules+fees .
But if you think about it...
Our deed says we own a TS in certain week. Each week falls within a season that determines its points.
To change the season for any week would change the applicable points - which just doesn't happen.

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[Panina]

The season chart applies to each resort's description, and is not part of the annual publication of rules+fees .
But if you think about it...
Our deed says we own a TS in certain week. Each week falls within a season that determines its points.
To change the season for any week would change the applicable points - which just doesn't happen.

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I don’t know the answer...Hyatt increased the trading power of certain weeks thus decreasing the value of other weeks even though they kept their trading value the same. How is Hyatt’s deeds different that they could do it?

 

[Talent312]

I don’t know the answer...Hyatt increased the trading power of certain weeks thus decreasing the value of other weeks even though they kept their trading value the same. How is Hyatt’s deeds different that they could do it?

I've read that HGVC increased values at Flamingo early in it's existence, but not changed any in the last 30 years.
Of course, as they say, "Past performance is not indicative of future results."
Also, The Rules say that HGVC has the right to modify or terminate the club.

 

[Panina]

I've read that HGVC increased values at Flamingo early in it's existence, but not changed any in the last 30 years.
Of course, as they say, "Past performance is not indicative of future results."
Also, The Rules say that HGVC has the right to modify or terminate the club.

I read recently Hyatt increased point value at key west properties for certain weeks.

 

[CanuckTravlr]

I've never seen them change. Think about it -- how would it work if someone owned a fixed week, and one year it is worth 5000 points, and the next 7000? I think the only reason they had a date on that chart was because from year to year the list of resorts may change.

I could be wrong, but like I said, I have never seen seasons change by the week.

Kurt

Thanks everyone for your responses. We have only been owners since 2015. I was assuming because they did a new chart in 2017 that it would be updated every year. I think Kurt's explanation makes perfect sense concerning fixed weeks. I also think Kurt may be right that it may have changed in 2017 because they had some new resorts. If that is the case, I also think it would make more sense if they eliminated the year from the chart title and just put a note somewhere that this chart was effective as of a certain date. That would make it clearer that it is only updated periodically, IMO. But that may just be me tilting against windmills (lol)!!

 

[hurnik]

I could've sworn, but I could be wrong, as I don't think I saved any of the hard copies from 2004, that HGVC cut the number of "bronze" weeks, for example at some resorts, thus "increasing" the costs (points) required.

Again, I could be wrong. I *think* the only bronze weeks on my old chart (the color coding is really hard to read as it's from 2015?) are 4 weeks at Flamingo. (But I could be wrong on that as well, it was just based on a quick scan).

 

[GT75]

In 2010, there were no bronze weeks at Flamingo (nor on 2017), but you are correct in that the color chart is super hard to read.

 

[PigsDad]

Well lookie here -- I dug around a bit on my file system and found a HGVC Season Chart from 2004! Pretty interesting, especially seeing the growth in the number of resorts since then. And the color coding is much better than the current version.

I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to compare if there have been any season changes at any of the resorts, but it looks like Flamingo did not have any Bronze Season weeks in 2004.

Kurt