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Richelle

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Being Platinum allows an owner to reserve anything through the end of the year with the peace of mind you can cancel any reservation without the risk of losing those points at year end. I don’t use RCI. RCI is a waste to me outside of last calls.

You can reserve all possible units that you might need for a family reunion or any other big get together without worrying about who can’t make it months in advance

The more points you have the more valuable it is to me. Have reservations to rent for the holidays. They don’t get rented no problem cancel and deposit the points.

I have said it before— I don’t think owners fully understand how big of a benefit it is for Gold and Platinum owners. A resale owner decides that they don’t need any more points this year and deposit their points in March. In June friends call do you want to meet up at x resort in December I see there’s some availability. Oh no we have no points we put them into next year. I think a lot more points will be lost at years end than owners think.

Like I posted before with the credit pool it didn’t matter. Now its a big decision for resale and Silver owners.

Even if Platinum uses points at year end for MFs. That’s better than the points expiring


You make excellent points about the benefit of the points deposit extension. The points deposit extension to the end of the year is the only platinum benefit i would be able to take advantage of, that i don't already have. Since i travel during prime, upgrades and discounts may be rare for me, but i may get lucky on the upgrade side. For people who are retire and can afford to be flexible, they could take advantage of the discounts and upgrades. If they add to the VIP benefits, i might change my mind later, but right now i would have to spend about $45k to go Platinum. Less if i swap out my mom's two bedroom PIC for a three bedroom. Considering she spent $20k on that back in 99, I don't see myself doing that anytime soon. lol
 

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It does confirm that a week for PIC plus cannot be an RCI points week. So as an OP said you would have to take the week out of points. Our week in PIC was an RCI points week but it was either 10 or 12 years ago that we enrolled our week
You can still convert a points week to its original deeded week for PIC.

Immediately after buying developer points and enrolling the eligible 'week' for PIC, I contacted RCI and asked to have an RCI Points week that I already owned converted to an RCI week. They send you a form (e-mail), you fill it out, send (e-mail) it back and the conversion gets done. I had been told by sales that I had 30 days to do the convert or my PIC enrollment could be voided. I wanted it done inside the rescission period. I've done this twice (in 2017 and again in 2018), both times the approval and updates to my RCI points account were completed within 5 days. The form allows you to pick the effective year for the conversion. I picked 1 year in the future as I did not want to accidentally have a Points reservation cancelled. My wishes were fulfilled.


The first week I converted has been deposited for 2019 with RCI/Wyndham and the associated Wyndham Points are in my account. I expect the 2018 PIC to work just as easily once it comes time to deposit that week. My point is, unless something has changed in the last 2 months, you can take one of your eligible RCI points resorts and get it to a week for PIC at the time of Developer purchase. It was a real win for me as I was finding that I did not need those RCI points, having the Wyndham points and the associated move up to Gold VIP fit my vacation plans better.

Am I the only one who has converted the points to weeks in order to get the PIC in the last year?
 

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I have a PIC question. How would EOY weeks be treated? Would I only get 1/2 credit toward the next VIP level?
No one has answered this so I will attempt to. Since you can only deposit your week once a year, it would make sense that you only get “credit” towards your VIP status every other year. I know with points only half the points count. So for consistency purposes, they might do the same with PIC. However, other then the sleezy sales tactics the sales people use, when have we know Wyndham to be consistent? Unfortunately it doesn’t say anywhere in the directory or the owner 101 articles so I think it’s left up to whoever enters in Your PIC into the system. They do have a PIC inquiry department. You can call Owner care and ask them to submit the question to them. Fair warning though, the last time I dealt with the PIC inquiry department, I had to email the CEO. They are not the fastest horses in the stables. Hopefully someone kicked their butts into gear since then.
 

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Has anyone ever heard of ghost points being used to PIC your way to VIP? With a new purchase, of course. How are PIC weeks added into the contract language?
 

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Has anyone ever heard of ghost points being used to PIC your way to VIP? With a new purchase, of course. How are PIC weeks added into the contract language?
Ghost points? Not sure where you got that term. When you buy more points, there is a PIC enrollment form you fill out with the information for youeach Fixed/float week. There is nothing in the contract itself. You have proof you enrolled it and the publicized directory that explains the program and requirements. Like almost everything else, they could discontinue the program, but I would imagine they would grandfather people in like they did when the eligiblty requirements changed for VIP. No guarantee of course, but there is also nothing guaranteed about the program except whatever rights are tied to deeded ownership with the local governments.
 

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Owners Cares direct # is
1-866-388-7654. See if there is anything they can recommend like filling out a PIC correction form. Wouldn’t hurt to ask.
 
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