HGVC Sea World $25/day resort fee?

[FLDVCFamily]

We are looking at booking an exchange at this resort, but when I went to book a disclaimer came up that they charge a $25 a day (plus tax) resort fee. Is that applicable to exchanges in through RCI also? I tried calling them but they never answered the phone.

 

[Cyberc]

We are looking at booking an exchange at this resort, but when I went to book a disclaimer came up that they charge a $25 a day (plus tax) resort fee. Is that applicable to exchanges in through RCI also? I tried calling them but they never answered the phone.

Yes it’s applicable through RCI. They started that with reservations made after January this year. But you do get 2 small bottles of water, free dvd rentals and internet

If you book through hgvc there are no additional fees and you get the same amenities.

 

[Talent312]

But you do get 2 small bottles of water, free dvd rentals and internet.

... and free self-parking!

This fee is there under the "Fees" tab in RCI's listing for HGVC at Seaworld.
HGVC has adopted same fees that a lot of resorts are charging exchangers.
There is also a small "per stay" housekeeping fee, if staying L-T one week.

 

[FLDVCFamily]

Thanks for confirming that. I'm going to take the unit off hold and book elsewhere. What a turnoff.

 

[rapmarks]

Thanks for confirming that. I'm going to take the unit off hold and book elsewhere. What a turnoff.

Especially with all the choices in Orlando

 

[Panina]

Thanks for confirming that. I'm going to take the unit off hold and book elsewhere. What a turnoff.

Especially with all the choices in Orlando

I dislike the fee too. Even more as I am an hgv owner and they charge it to us too.

My take for their Higher Orlando resort fee is they probably thought DVC charges extra for a trade, so can we. As great as HGV properties are I will not trade in RCI to HGV properties but I will to DVC as I get much more value for my resort fee.

 

[Miss Marty]

Hilton Grand Vacation Club and other resorts need to make
up for the lost revenue from high price sales now that most
people are buying resales on ebay or getting t/s cheap/free

Is a resort fee mandatory?

A resort fee, also called a facility fee, a destination fee,
an amenity fee, an urbanfee, or a resort charge,
is a separate mandatory fee that a guest is charged by
an accommodation provided in addition to a base room rate.

Is it fair to charge a $25.00 per day Resort Fee plus tax?

No! Especially since there may only be one or two people
staying in a unit, while some units may have ten to twelve.

Look at how much additional income the state
is receiving from the resort fee tax collected.

Finally what is the state sales tax rate for Florida resort fees?

 

[PigsDad]

Hilton Grand Vacation Club and other resorts need to make
up for the lost revenue from high price sales now that most
people are buying resales on ebay or getting t/s cheap/free

Do you have any data to back up that statement? To the contrary, information from HGV financial releases show sales at a all-time high. Even though all you may see is resales as you hang around here, TUG posters represent a tiny fraction of timeshare buyers and users.

Kurt

 

[brp]

Do you have any data to back up that statement? To the contrary, information from HGV financial releases show sales at a all-time high. Even though all you may see is resales as you hang around here, TUG posters represent a tiny fraction of timeshare buyers and users.

Kurt

Yup. Almost certainly not true. We live in a bubble where buying resale is as natural as breathing. However, in talking with other timeshare owners, the majority of them are out there suffocating.

Cheers.

 

[tschwa2]

I think RCI in their capacity as adviser to their big developer clients are encouraging the developers to implement fees as a source of income stating that it is becoming the industry norm. When Massanutten added the resort fee last year that was there main excuse/talking point.

 

[brp]

I think RCI in their capacity as adviser to their big developer clients are encouraging the developers to implement fees as a source of income stating that it is becoming the industry norm. When Massanutten added the resort fee last year that was there main excuse/talking point.

Sadly, for better or worse (who am I kidding...there is no "better" here...) the excuse really does seem to be valid. It is certainly becoming the norm.

Cheers.

 

[Sandy VDH]

Did not Disney start all this extra fee business. Why because they could. So other more premium locations are following suit.

I used to grab HGVC via RCI once in a while to save on points, but now with this fee and the exchange fee from RCI it is NO longer worth it to do so. Cheaper for me to book directly with HGVC now.

 

[Talent312]

Perhaps HGVC members should favor fees for RCI exchangers.
Discouraging exchanges means more inventory for members to book.
.

 

[tombanjo]

In theory, shouldn’t resort fees charged to exchangers help keep owner’s MF lower? And HGV owners exchanging into other Timeshare systems subsidize the other owners. Since the actual resort you are exchanging doesn’t see any revenue from what ever points were used to get there, the fees are gravy.

 

[tk25]

Hilton Grand Vacation Club and other resorts need to make
up for the lost revenue from high price sales now that most
people are buying resales on ebay or getting t/s cheap/free

Is a resort fee mandatory?

A resort fee, also called a facility fee, a destination fee,
an amenity fee, an urbanfee, or a resort charge,
is a separate mandatory fee that a guest is charged by
an accommodation provided in addition to a base room rate.

Is it fair to charge a $25.00 per day Resort Fee plus tax?

No! Especially since there may only be one or two people
staying in a unit, while some units may have ten to twelve.

Look at how much additional income the state
is receiving from the resort fee tax collected.

Finally what is the state sales tax rate for Florida resort fees?

Retail sales are very good according to HGVC stock quarterly reports. They have been adding about 25,000 new retail member/year the last couple of years.

 

[Miss Marty]

HGVClub

Understanding Your Vacation Ownership Statement
brochure is available as a PDF download.

 

[PigsDad]

HGVClub

Understanding Your Vacation Ownership Statement
brochure is available as a PDF download.

This is a link describing the annual MF bills for HGV owners. I'm sorry, but what does that have to do with RCI fees for exchangers???

Very confused by this post...

Kurt

 

[Talent312]

This is a link describing the annual MF bills for HGV owners. I'm sorry, but what does that have to do with RCI fees for exchangers???

I'm not sure what Miss Marty's been drinking, but I'd like some.

Let's face it... Fees tacked onto RCI exchanges are here to stay.
It's just another factor to consider in deciding if a trip is worth the expense.

.

 

[dioxide45]

In theory, shouldn’t resort fees charged to exchangers help keep owner’s MF lower? And HGV owners exchanging into other Timeshare systems subsidize the other owners. Since the actual resort you are exchanging doesn’t see any revenue from what ever points were used to get there, the fees are gravy.

No, exchangers should not be subsidizing MFs of owners. Owners should be paying for the full operation of their resort. Why should someone who owns a resort that doesn't charge a resort fee have to pay when they exchange in to another resort? You can exchange your HGVC to another resort so someone can subsidize your fees? When exchanging started, you were trading what you owned for what someone else owned. No games, no fees unless the original owner paid them too.

I wonder if this resort fee even goes back to the HOA to subsidise the resort operations or if it is just going in to the corporate pocket?

 

[Miss Marty]

The pdf describes the annual MF bills for HGVClub owners

Operating Fee:Funds the day-to-day operating expenses of your property including: costs related to routine building repairs and maintenance, administration and management, utilities, security, property insurance, housekeeping, recreational amenities, landscape maintenance, and otheroperating expenses. (source pdf)

When these properties were built, amenities like the (Owners Lounge)
Clubhouse, outdoor pool, phones were included in the annual MF fee.

Resort Fees should be included in the annual MF bill and not collected from exchanger`s
What happens when a unit sits empty, where is the income to pay for resort amenities?

I personally feel that it`s not right to charge any exchanger an additional resort fee..
Some people who only go for a weekend or one week vacation may not complain.

Exchangers Say No to Daily Resort Fees by staying
@ a timeshare that does not charge resort fees.

 

[Miss Marty]

No, exchangers should not be subsidizing MFs of owners. Owners should be paying for the full operation of their resort. Why should someone who owns a resort that doesn't charge a resort fee have to pay when they exchange in to another resort? You can exchange your HGVC to another resort so someone can subsidize your fees? When exchanging started, you were trading what you owned for what someone else owned. No games, no fees unless the original owner paid them too.

There are two budgets at HGV SeaWorld

Orlando Vacation Suites I (for phases 1 and 2)
OSV I MF is the same regardless of unit size

Orlando Vacation Suites II (for phases 3 & 4)
OSV II MF (operating, reserve, re tax) based on unit size

2019 MF for 2 Bedroom Platinum $1,171.
2019 MF for 3 Bedroom Platinum $1,487.

RCI Code: 3517
Why does HGV still need to charge
RCI exchanger`s a daily resort fee?