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EBay Seller--Timeshare Connections--any comments?

Discussion in 'Buying, Selling, Renting' started by loosefeet, Feb 19, 2017.

  1. loosefeet

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    I bid on a HGVC 4800 point, which I "won" from Timeshare Connections. Just got the contract, asking me to wire money directly to them. They are quite pushy on getting this done over the holiday week-end. Red flags for me. I did a google search, don't trust EBay feedback. Anyone have any experience/comments about this seller?
     
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    If you do not feel comfortable with the transaction then don't do it.
     
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    A Google search for them on TUG turned up nothing. I would be leery of wiring money. Do they take PayPal or credit card as payment?

    I can't find this seller on EBay. Do you have a link to their profile? One important thing to look at is the source of their feedback. Does most of it come from sales of timeshares or is much of it come from being a buyer?
     
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    Personally, I choose to never conduct timeshare business of any sort on eBay --- period. If I did, I would be very concerned about "new" timeshare reseller names with no apparent or retrievable history. More specifically, I would always be very wary that a "new" name with no history is merely the reincarnation of previously established and proven bad actors now trying to "reinvent" themselves and create a clean slate.
    In the spirit of Oscars season, in the "previous bad actors" category nominees include redweeks4less, IA Vacations, BCS rentals, et al.
     
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    Less than 25 feedback items as a seller. Most are as a buyer. Unless you have Amex, I would walk away. All their sales are private listings, so you can't even see what it was that they were selling.
     
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    I won an Ebay auction from a seller called timeshareconnection_0. The contract they sent me was from Timeshare Connections in Tennessee and I think the closing company is VP Title. The price was only $1.00 but my usage doesn't start until 2019 and the seller said that the 2018 maintenance fees have been paid but I've learned that fees have only been paid through 12/31/2017. Has anyone had any experience with Timeshare Connections or VP Title? The BBB gives VP Title an F rating with lots of complaints.
     
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    I would file complaints with Attorney Generals Office in States the title company and seller are located and again in state property is deeded in. These have far more weight than BBB complaints.
     
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    I believe that VP Title is the closing entity which was / is utilized by PostCard Company (PCC) GroupWise, among others. Family member had a low cost Groupwise transaction 6-7 years ago in which VP Title handled the closing (without any problems, iirc). However, this single observation about VP Title admittedly provides no useful info regarding "Timeshare Connections" --- I've never even heard of them.

    Is this maybe a EOY (odd years) interval? If so, seller could be playing word games by claiming that "2018 maintenance fees have been paid", when it might actually be (in a EOY odd years ownership) that no 2018 maintenance fees are due or collected at all in the first place. Otherwise, it's unclear to me how the 2018 maintenence fees could already be paid, since most 2018 mf bills have not even been issued yet --- mine haven't, several different resorts.

    I would demand an estoppel of recent issuance, prepared and signed and dated by the resort (i.e., not something "manufactured in house" by the seller).
    Estoppel should verify ownership details and current owner account status (although seller may understandably redact owner name and details).
    Without estoppel documentation, I'd personally be inclined to just walk (or run) away, since the account status facts seem to be in question here. YMMV.
     
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    Couldn't see (ended) listing via that link, but regardless of ad content the question remains --- did you obtain a resort issued, dated, signed estoppel?
    If so, what does it indicate regarding account status? If not, it may be time to lace up the running shoes and start jogging --- away from this transaction.
     
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    The estoppel they sent me shows the first fees due are in Jan 2019 but it was not signed by the resort management who told me the 2018 fees have not been paid. I think the reseller just filled out the estoppel form. I've left messages with them saying I didn't want them to transfer it into my name until the 2018 fees had been paid but they have called or emailed me back. I was hoping someone on TUG had a contact name for this firm. Here's another link to the auction, maybe this one will work: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sandstone-...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2748.l2649 The resort is Sandstone Creek Club. The seller is:
    timesharconnection_0 (161 )
     

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