Does WM take a credit card deposit for your stay?

[DaveNV]

My first WM stay happens in a few weeks. We'll be four in a 2 bedroom unit for a long weekend. Wondering if WM takes a credit card deposit for either myself or my guests? I don't know what extra charges there might be, so am just curious what to expect.

Thanks,
Dave

 

[breezez]

It varies some do take a deposit, some charge tot taxes, and some have never asked me for a card.

But they will always ask you for owners up date....

 

[JohnPaul]

Most resorts do not charge a deposit for an owner. Guests are typically asked for $150 deposit. If it's a resort called WM but really mostly Wyndham (like Pagosa Springs) they will charge a deposit.

 

[DaveNV]

It varies some do take a deposit, some charge tot taxes, and some have never asked me for a card.

But they will always ask you for owners up date....

Most resorts do not charge a deposit for an owner. Guests are typically asked for $150 deposit. If it's a resort called WM but really mostly Wyndham (like Pagosa Springs) they will charge a deposit.

Thanks. We're going for a family wedding/birthday/anniversary weekend, so will only be at the resort to sleep. So no, I don't have time/desire for an Owner's Update. I sincerely hope it's not a hard sell thing.

Dave

 

[bizaro86]

What JohnPaul said. There are a few exceptions (which should be noted in your confirmation email) but generally owners don't pay a deposit. Guests always do.

The exceptions are generally shared resorts. Notably, WM Reunion has a deposit for everyone that is PER DAY and relatively substantial ($100/day, iirc).

 

[breezez]

Most resorts do not charge a deposit for an owner. Guests are typically asked for $150 deposit. If it's a resort called WM but really mostly Wyndham (like Pagosa Springs) they will charge a deposit.

I stayed at The Camlin this year and they charged Owners a deposit. And if memory serves me right Depoe Bay did also.

 

[JohnPaul]

I stayed at The Camlin this year and they charged Owners a deposit. And if memory serves me right Depoe Bay did also.

FWIW we stayed at both the Camlin and Depoe Bay in May and was not asked for a deposit in either place.

 

[uscav8r]

What JohnPaul said. There are a few exceptions (which should be noted in your confirmation email) but generally owners don't pay a deposit. Guests always do.

The exceptions are generally shared resorts. Notably, WM Reunion has a deposit for everyone that is PER DAY and relatively substantial ($100/day, iirc).

Yes, Reunion charges $110 for the first day and $100 per day thereafter to a max of $710.

Note that this is not a damage deposit, but is meant to cover use of pay-as-you-go amenities such as the restaurants, spa, golf courses, etc.

Reunion is not managed by Wyndham and sets its own deposit policy.

https://www.clubwyndham.com/cw/resorts/wvr-reunion-orlando.page


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[DaveNV]

We'll be at Leavenworth, so I don't know how much local stuff there would be at the resort. Although I think there is a TOT tax.

Dave

 

[rhonda]

I just checked online regarding an upcoming stay at the Worldmark/Wyndham Pagosa (CO). Guess what? New wording I'd never before noticed regarding taking a Security Deposit on check-in.

Resort Information: Pagosa Springs ONLINE ALERT - FROM 2004-10-20 TO 2030-12-31 A security deposit is required at check-in. Guests must be 21 or older to check-in. This resort has a check-out time of 10 am. No RV parking onsite.

 

[JohnPaul]

I've sent WM numerous complains about the webpage for Pagosa Springs. Looks like the are actually acting on some of them, at least highlighting things in your confirmation such as above (one of my items).

Also, pictures have been updated to give a better representation of the overall property (not just the fanciest units).

Still nothing to let you know that a one-bedroom (not deluxe) is the small (and I do mean small) side of a two bedroom and that a one-bedroom deluxe doesn't just mean a tiny bit fancier ala normal Worldmark but actually the large side of a two bedroom lock off.

 

[bizaro86]

If they're going to use those words very differently than the worldmark standard meanings, they should put that in the descriptions on the Webpage. I just checked and nothing it noted. "Smaller than the average WM unit" would do, and is something that they have used in other locations.

 

[FLYNZ4]

We use WM a lot, but I've never been "charged" a security deposit; the most I've seen is a credit card hold. On the grand scheme of things, why would I even care? This is no different than the (way too many) hotel biz trips I take. Hotels hold much more than the normal nightly charge. It is a general practice across the hospitality industry to put a hold on your card.

OTOH, It does tend to change human behavior for guests (at least a bit) knowing their can be financial repercussions for aberrant behavior. This certainly is not absolute, as we see at resorts during extreme rental periods (ex: volleyball weekend at Seaside). From a practical standpoint, the $100 hold doesn't amount to much. Severe damage will be charged to the account owner, not a renter.

/Jim

 

[geist1223]

One year a Group of renters smuggled in sand and built sand castles in the living room. I wonder how much that cost the owners?

 

[IsaiahB]

One year a Group of renters smuggled in sand and built sand castles in the living room. I wonder how much that cost the owners?

I heard about that one! Fairly certain they charged them for all the labor and the unit unavailability.
Jim - any insight?

 

[klpca]

One year a Group of renters smuggled in sand and built sand castles in the living room. I wonder how much that cost the owners?

What? What is wrong with people? I hope they were charged!

 

[uscav8r]

If they're going to use those words very differently than the worldmark standard meanings, they should put that in the descriptions on the Webpage. I just checked and nothing it noted. "Smaller than the average WM unit" would do, and is something that they have used in other locations.

This is strange since the Club Wyndham site for Durango mentions the undersized aspect of the units. Never heard that Pagosa had undersized rooms.


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[uscav8r]

I just checked online regarding an upcoming stay at the Worldmark/Wyndham Pagosa (CO). Guess what? New wording I'd never before noticed regarding taking a Security Deposit on check-in.

They may call it a Security Deposit, but every Club Wyndham resort (which Pagosa is) requires a credit card hold upon check in, regardless of ownership status.


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[geist1223]

Then there was the person that after a night of drinking go and turned on the spigot of the jetted tub, sat down on their bed, and woke up an hour or more later. The damaged extended down several floors.

Remember it is the Member that is responsible party for damamges.

 

[FLYNZ4]

I heard about that one! Fairly certain they charged them for all the labor and the unit unavailability.
Jim - any insight?

Yes, my understanding is that was reported to OC. I do not know first hand if OC charged the owner, but I assume they did. That would be the normal process.

/Jim

 

[FLYNZ4]

Then there was the person that after a night of drinking go and turned on the spigot of the jetted tub, sat down on their bed, and woke up an hour or more later. The damaged extended down several floors.

Remember it is the Member that is responsible party for damamges.

Yes I am aware of that incident too, but I do not think it was after drinking. An incident like that would cause repairs beyond the insurance deductible. At Seaside, the deductible at the time was $25K. That is a pretty expensive bill to receive.

There are many reasons I choose to not rent. Owner liability is a big reason. The larger reason is that we really enjoy our frequent stays in great units, so we use all of our points. We will invite friends to stay with us, and I will occasionally gift a unit to a close friend. I also occasionally book for a family member... but usually get units for family when we are also present.

Several years ago at an owners meeting, Gene Hensley (then President WMtC) called out Debbie and I as the couple who use WM the most in a positive tone as what is available with WM. Our usage hasn’t diminished.

/Jim

 

[rhonda]

They may call it a Security Deposit, but every Club Wyndham resort (which Pagosa is) requires a credit card hold upon check in, regardless of ownership status.

True, but seeing the wording on the confirmation was "new to my eyes" and I thought it might be helpful to the OP as they learn, by experience, which locations will NOT ask the owner for a credit card at check-in and which will ask for such. I was glad to see it noted on my reservation confirmation as I already knew, by experience, what to expect for this type of stay.

This is strange since the Club Wyndham site for Durango mentions the undersized aspect of the units. Never heard that Pagosa had undersized rooms.

Keep in mind that context of the comment: Worldmark owners booking Pagosa directly through WM, not through Wyndham Club Pass or Wyndham. The Worldmark resort gallery page for Pagosa does not provide any information on the differences between "1BR" vs "1BR Deluxe." The fact is that the 1BR is the "B-side" of a 2BR lockout unit; it is a small unit with a nearly unworkable "kitchen" tucked into a tight corner of the "living room" (which is basically the unit's entry way, also quite small). The 1BR Deluxe is the "A-side" of the same and is much larger ... much more "on par" with what we consider a "typical/traditional WM unit" with, perhaps, a few upgrades such as a grand pantry or extra closet.

WM locations don't often have lockout configurations ... so we aren't pre-conditioned to navigating the A-Side/B-Side layouts. Frankly, the wording on the WM resort pages fails us on this point.

 

[DaveNV]

As the OP for this, my question was mainly to know what to expect. If I go to a resort without any on-site paid amenities, what would they charge me for?

Dave

 

[rhonda]

As the OP for this, my question was mainly to know what to expect. If I go to a resort without any on-site paid amenities, what would they charge me for?

Dave

Do you feel your question has been adequately answered ... or is the issue still clear as mud?

 

[DaveNV]

Do you feel your question has been adequately answered ... or is the issue still clear as mud?

Lol! No, I’m good, thanks. Thanks for asking. My first WM stay is in five days, so I’ll learn firsthand what happens.

Dave