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Adding to Diamond Resorts - Hawaii Collection points

Discussion in 'Diamond Resorts International - DRI' started by Chris Holme, Jun 27, 2017.

  1. Chris Holme

    Chris Holme TUG Member

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    Hello,

    My wife and I are currently Silver Loyalty members of Diamond Resorts, we own 15,000 points in the Hawaii Collection and are THE Club members. Overall we are happy with Diamond and their system. We would like to upgrade to Gold membership. We purchased out original timeshare before it was Diamond on the secondary market, then bought a small amount of points retail to bring us to our current level. I think we are into it for about $15,000 total. Their sales pitch is that to upgrade to Gold we need to buy an additional 15,000 points for about $54,000.00... which isn't going to happen. I have seen Hawaii Collection points on the resale market for A LOT less.

    My questions is, if we buy an additional 15,000 point (enough to get us to Gold) will Diamond actually let us do that? We are already THE Club members, how will secondary market points interact with our existing points?
     
  2. nuwermj

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    Resale points do not qualify for loyalty benefits. But...

    You could acquire 10,000 resale points and then at some future date purchase 5,000 retail points and at that time have the 10,000 qualify for loyalty levels. (Diamond's sale rule is that you must purchase 50% of what you want to qualify for Club benefits.) Such a strategy would reduce you cost to $18,000.
     
  3. Eileen A.

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    Just attended an owner update in Sedona last week and was told that they no longer allow
    you to bring in a resale by buying 50% of the points. Only company purchased points will
    count toward loyalty status. So double check before you buy thinking you can bring the points
    into Club. Was told this was a change Apollo made when they purchased Diamond.

    I'm already platinum and they offered to convert our Kaanapali
    Beach Club deed into US collection if we purchased an additional 8,500 points for $74,000!!!
    Of course when we said no they found a loophole to lower the price - we cut them off and
    said we were not interested so never heard their final offer.

    According to the saleswomen they will not sell less than 8,500 and the price is something like
    $8.60 per point.

    I can't believe anyone would pay these crazy prices.
     
  4. artringwald

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    What specific gold level features sound attractive to you? You might want to ask here if any gold members have been able to take advantage of the features that interest you. Keep in mind, none of the gold level features are guaranteed in writing. If you just want more points, buy them on the resale market.
     
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  5. Tucsonadventurer

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    There is a week in Maui for sale. How does that work? Is it easy to get being a floating week or do point owners have priority?
     
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    Good point about loyalty benefits always subject to change, and I would guess the changes more likely than not would devalue the membership.
     
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    I would suggest that you think seriously about moving to Gold. First, only go to gold if you need the points to vacation. If you need the points for vacation then fine, buy them. However, you can get them resale for much cheaper. Remember, your maintenances will be higher every year and PERMANENTLY. Also, look at the differences in the benefits between Silver and Gold. Is there that much of a difference for you to pay all that extra money. Will you lose all of the benefits or some of them and are those benefits worth the extra money in maintenance fees.

    More often than not, it's not worth it.
     
  8. Rich1946

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    I just attended update in Branson Mo and the sales consultant was saying that DRI would convert my unused point to cash each year and I would receive a check. He quoted $.27 cents per point. That would be enough to pay my annual fees and still use a week at most US resorts. This sounds too good to be true.
     
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    I own a Sampler with 20,000 points. Can I sell those points? If so, how does that work?
     
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    I believe you were told a lie. In fact this might be the #1 lie told to people. The idea that they can cash in unused points for cash up to .30cents per point. It just isn't true.

    If what this guy told you was true is should be in writing. If it isn't in writing ask the agent why he is deviating from the printed material. Something Diamond agreed not to do as part of their Clarity program.
     
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    We are platinum with Diamond and you are correct...GET IT IN WRITING. After purchasing last small amt. of pts., got home and what was told to us, we could not find on the web site, that was October 2017. I have learned this lesson more than once...
     
  12. pedro47

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    That salesperson lips were moving. Hopefully, in future sales at the final sale interviewer all that the salesperson stated in their sales pitch will now be recorded by Sales Mgr & buyer.
     
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    I have 39,000 Hawaiian Collection Points that I'm considering selling if you have any interest in buying some.
     
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    Resell Points will not count for loyalty levels.
     

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