Yes. Typo...I think you meant to type "must NOT be friends" ?
Dave
Yes. Typo...I think you meant to type "must NOT be friends" ?
Dave
Yet another reminder why FaceBook has been one of the most destructive of influences created by man.
I spend a couple of class periods trying to warn students about the dangers of FaceBook specifically and social media as a whole but mostly to no avail.
The best use of FaceBook is non use.
I would like to point out a couple of red flags in your original post:
Yet another reminder why FaceBook has been one of the most destructive of influences created by man.
I spend a couple of class periods trying to warn students about the dangers of FaceBook specifically and social media as a whole but mostly to no avail.
The best use of FaceBook is non use.
I heard there is a planned merger between YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook. They're calling it YouTwitFace.
Dave
I have a coworker and friend who is a lot less discreet. If he gets into any kind of "situation" at work, whether it's an argument, a task assignment, or anything that he doesn't think is right, I can just about guarantee there will be some sort of passive-aggressive snide comment or meme posted that day (sometime within minutes) on his Facebook page. His comments are obscure enough that all his friends rush to ask what had happened, or did his Manager try to screw him over again, and such. Sometimes he explains his snarky comments, and sometimes he blows it off, saying they wouldn't understand because they don't work where he does. (Drives me crazy when he does that!) But it always results in somebody saying he's the poor victim, and they don't understand how good a worker he is, and so forth. That kind of pity party stuff drives me up the wall.
He tends to be a contrarian anyway, and thinks everything that he disagrees with is a conspiracy to somehow "do him wrong." I've told him many times he needs to stop doing that sort of thing, and he defends it, saying, "It's my Facebook page, I'll post what I want." I just shrug and say, "Ok, whatever. It's your future." I'm honestly surprised he still works there. In the back of my head I'm telling myself to stay back and don't get sucked into his stuff. (Coincidentally, he works for the Manager I mentioned previously. That may be part of the FB blocking she did.)
Definitely one of those "Not my circus, not my monkeys" kind of thing.
Dave
Excellent points, and there's no way you or I, or anyone on this thread are going to be able to figure this out. But, I agree with your assessment that hopefully this thread is not found out by her employer. This is obviously a personal conflict between her and her boss - that's obvious by the consistent name calling of the boss by the OP in this thread. And these conflicts generally are won by the boss (obviously not always though). I'll say it again, the OP appears to want to be fired, IMO.
But from my perspective, no more. I don’t want to know! If it’s aggregious enough, I’m sure some other employee with tell me about it....
I think that the OP has included that desire previously in this thread. No new news there.
Unfortunately, these kinds of postings (in today's world) should be limited anywhere on the internet. They are now public documentation, easily found and could possibly be used to the detriment of the OP.
Mary Ann, I'm so sorry, at this point in your life, that you are dealing with this "crap". You were clearly on your way to the finish line. It sucks like crazy. Any outcome, at this point, seems better than what you're going through now. I have been going through my own thing at work as I head to my finish line in the not-too-distant future (29 years in). My husband, last month, got a major curve ball thrown at him that has had a major impact on things (20 years in). But neither of us are experiencing it to the extent that you are with your employment. We know what the options are and have accepted them (until the next ones come along). Gosh, I wish you the best. Try your best not to let this have an impact on your health. I know it's already taken a toll on your well-being. Hang in there knowing many here on TUG care about what you're going through.
Yet another reminder why FaceBook has been one of the most destructive of influences created by man.
I spend a couple of class periods trying to warn students about the dangers of FaceBook specifically and social media as a whole but mostly to no avail.
The best use of FaceBook is non use.
Excellent points, and there's no way you or I, or anyone on this thread are going to be able to figure this out. But, I agree with your assessment that hopefully this thread is not found out by her employer. This is obviously a personal conflict between her and her boss - that's obvious by the consistent name calling of the boss by the OP in this thread. And these conflicts generally are won by the boss (obviously not always though). I'll say it again, the OP appears to want to be fired, IMO.
Intel did this massive "old people" separation offer a couple of years ago. The people who were targeted were all older and had spent decades at the company. The package was very attractive, including fully paid medical for 2 years. All the people whom I personally know accepted the package. It was obviously age discrimination but since they made it "optional" I believe that was how the company got away from age discrimination claim.Just heard last night that after 28 years with the same company that my brother is with they are offering a buyout of 2 weeks for every year you have in for employees 55 and older. He is 56 and was planning retirement in 4 years. His company is doing great with record earnings but say taxes and other things coming up is going to hurt them. If you don't take the buyout and then are let go they get 1 week per year in. He is worried and thinks his job will be eliminated.
He has decided to accept the buyout and go back to school to become a teacher. His wife is a teacher and loves it and my brother's current job is very stressful. They plan on moving to a second home they recently bought (in same state) in a few years and then just substitute teach. He wants to feel he can make a difference in somebody's life. The job end is in May.
Just heard last night that after 28 years with the same company that my brother is with they are offering a buyout of 2 weeks for every year you have in for employees 55 and older. He is 56 and was planning retirement in 4 years. His company is doing great with record earnings but say taxes and other things coming up is going to hurt them. If you don't take the buyout and then are let go they get 1 week per year in. He is worried and thinks his job will be eliminated.
He has decided to accept the buyout and go back to school to become a teacher. His wife is a teacher and loves it and my brother's current job is very stressful. They plan on moving to a second home they recently bought (in same state) in a few years and then just substitute teach. He wants to feel he can make a difference in somebody's life. The job end is in May.
You are amazing. I love how you stand up for yourself. Not sure I would have even acknowledged lots of what was said to you. Whatever happens I believe you will land standing.I don't think you really are understanding the entire picture, but if you think you are- well than- ok. Appreciate your input.
When I used the word "coast"- I meant not having to deal with extreme stress or harassment or BS frankly. I do my best every day. I am no slug. If I didn't I would have been gone long ago. Just because I don't want to be abused and jump through hoops like in a dog and pony show doesn't mean I don't care about doing a decent job. I am no robot.
Yes- I am "chatty"- that is what I do for a living. No keeping my head down in this job. I have to look up- at people- in the eye every single day and open my mouth and always be happy- whether I really am or not. And talk, talk, talk and listen, listen, listen. One thing about me that can hurt me is that I am an open book- so I always have to work on that and catch myself. Very hard when you are an honest person and not secretive. I'm flawed- what can I say?
One thing- I am brave and not afraid of my own shadow like some people might be. Don't like the idea of losing a salary but love the idea of not working in these kinds of environments. If you like keeping your head down every single day of your life and working the assembly line - great! Not me! I need freedom and truth and honestly and respect with the people I work for and with.
By posting some of this I was trying to set the background/timeline of the events that lead to this unfortunate situation. And- by having a quit date it helped me to cope with what was going on- if things did not improve - kind of a mental game with myself- a way out. But after standing up for myself, things DID get better- at least for now. So I didn't quit- just moved the date back a few times as long as I can work without being bullied, I stay. If they let me go- so be it. And yes- the man's past work- with me- on the same job- including him getting thrown out of one of our doctor client's offices- is definitely relevant as far as I am concerned.
Fact is- this was all going to happen- the 1099 thing or the firing- no matter what I did or said. I knew this back in the Fall- just didn't expect this 'treatment" by the newly appointed boss, though I thought something was up when- during the holidays at the end of the year- before he officially became the boss- he hugged me and said to me- "have a nice life". This stuck with me as I thought it an odd thing to say.
As far as being annoyed- yes- I learned that lesson and will go outside and scream if I have to- but actually now I don't have to -I just laugh to myself and accept it. I keep smiling.
And as for his "pet"- I get it. It is just that he tossed a woman who was loyal to the company for 14 years for this younger person who was just there 2 years or so- a very good and smart person- don't get me wrong.
The Facebook thing- well he told me all these years I was the only person in the company he ever friended on FB- then he becomes director and immediately blocks me- not just unfriends me- but BLOCKS me. Very telling. I get he is the boss and might not want to associate with any employees on FB- but that was extreme- the blocking part. And- considering he is hiring people from the same family as his right hand person- that she is going to be overseeing- says something about him. In most companies this is a "no no".
I don't mention anything to him of a personal nature now that I am in this situation. In terms of my coworkers- I keep everything fairly vague.
I am confident in myself- just surprised at how this all was handled. But I suppose I shouldn't be in this dog eat dog work world.
My severance package YEARS ago was 50% pay, 90% tuition & books for any accediated college courses and paid for medical benefits for 1 year (one year). Starting after my accummulated vacation time ended. Did NOT added to any pension time into my account ... which then ment, I was 6 months short in qualifying for (their company) defined pension. A side (private) offer by a senior manager was, he could cover me for 1 year but NOTHING might be offered at that time (his way of saying, most likely NOT offered).
I KNEW he felt guilty at that point in time and was "cutting me lose"... I took the college time and got my MBA at a great private engineering university. I had taken my MBA test a year or so before .. and had my sister (a junior there) inquire about a January start (6 weeks away) with the MBA admission director. She & I graduated 'together' .. my parents were SO PROUD of us in our gowns on graduation day.
I got a 1099 contract job .... at a WAY BIGGER company for 3.5 years. Brought some real estate. And that is how I have paid my bills for the last 34+ years.
That above was the GOOD picture side.
The UGLY ... I traded (swapped) my new (18 months old) nice house for a 50+ year old place (1/3 of nice house's size). Packed up 90% of my stuff into a garage (detached garage at that "swapped for" house) and rented a college apartment for 1 year (slept on a sofa bed, ate off a hot plate). Finished last semester of grad school living between my parents' house for 3+ months they were in FL and my empty vacation home 30 miles from the college, etc... commuting 100 miles to class. Oh, I did have rental income from the 50+ year old "traded for" house and rental income from my 1st house plus "no cost storage" in my detached garage.
And knew not where ANYTHING was for at least 3+ years after losing my job.
Well, here I am- almost 62 years old. In my 13th year and the worst job I have ever had. Finally got to a point where I could coast a little bit and the company gets acquired by a management company.
Not to get into all the gory details, but they stick a guy I have worked with and known here for years in the top mgmt. position. From day one- he blocks me from our friendship on Facebook. He begins to over - exert his authority, I presume to let it be known to me that he is now my boss and he is not going to be pliable in any way, shape or form. Every email he sends to me he CC's the COO of the new company. He uses everything he knows about my opinions of various things related to the job against me. His tone in his phone calls and emails is like a knife sticking into my gut. I get annoyed with him- he writes me up immediately. I have never been written up in my entire life, nor have I ever been fired. He has his "pet" employee in the office with us writing up our conversations. OMG- I can't take it...
I am now more than uncomfortable. He assigns me a task he knows is making me miserable and so very unhappy, with an unrealistic expectation and deadline. He also fires a 55 year old woman who has been there for 14 years- someone he never liked, but has been loyal to the company. He puts one of his "pets" into her position.
I start to get the picture. I decide there is age discrimination involved here. The new company probably wants a high energy, younger person with some of the latest marketing technology ideas. They want someone at their beckon call- ra ra and all that jazz. Wants to work 80 hours a week and no life.
I am convinced he is trying to make me quit or find grounds to fire me.
So- I decide it is time to be proactive when I told him he was harassing me and his back went up and he said he is contacting the owners. I demanded the contact info for the human resource person and spoke to her at length about age discrimination and harassment and also about this man's past- which I won;t get into here but you would not believe it if I told you it is so crazy. Two of the things show his perception regarding my age and also there is a witness I named to it.
Since then, he is being cordial to me at least.
So at this point, the COO has sent an email to us saying she wants to address my work flow and also high tech marketing ideas sometime next week in a meeting.
The past 6 weeks have been hell for me. I find myself crying. I am so unhappy. I had 3 years to go until I could get Medicare and retire- figured I could take SS at 66- but I am just not going to make it.
I was sure they would fire me this week and was actually looking forward to the relief, but it didn't happen.
So- I have contacted a lawyer and am going to have to work on a lengthy questionnaire tomorrow. I do not want to keep my job. I just can't do it anymore and work in this situation knowing what they are trying to do to me. The only point of me getting a lawyer is to maybe get me out of the job with some kind of severance and my PTO days. Someone to do the talking for me as I get emotional and start to cry. I am afraid to try to negotiate a resignation. The other woman that they fired and was there 14 years got 6 weeks severance- but she forgot to ask about PTO days and she mistakenly signed the papers before she thought it through. At least she will also get unemployment. If I am not fired I will not.
I am not sure if I should even continue with this stupid project he has me doing as I want to blow my brains out every day doing it - it is torture for me.
Well, here I am- almost 62 years old. In my 13th year and the worst job I have ever had. Finally got to a point where I could coast a little bit and the company gets acquired by a management company.
Not to get into all the gory details, but they stick a guy I have worked with and known here for years in the top mgmt. position. From day one- he blocks me from our friendship on Facebook. He begins to over - exert his authority, I presume to let it be known to me that he is now my boss and he is not going to be pliable in any way, shape or form. Every email he sends to me he CC's the COO of the new company. He uses everything he knows about my opinions of various things related to the job against me. His tone in his phone calls and emails is like a knife sticking into my gut. I get annoyed with him- he writes me up immediately. I have never been written up in my entire life, nor have I ever been fired. He has his "pet" employee in the office with us writing up our conversations. OMG- I can't take it...
I am now more than uncomfortable. He assigns me a task he knows is making me miserable and so very unhappy, with an unrealistic expectation and deadline. He also fires a 55 year old woman who has been there for 14 years- someone he never liked, but has been loyal to the company. He puts one of his "pets" into her position.
I start to get the picture. I decide there is age discrimination involved here. The new company probably wants a high energy, younger person with some of the latest marketing technology ideas. They want someone at their beckon call- ra ra and all that jazz. Wants to work 80 hours a week and no life.
I am convinced he is trying to make me quit or find grounds to fire me.
So- I decide it is time to be proactive when I told him he was harassing me and his back went up and he said he is contacting the owners. I demanded the contact info for the human resource person and spoke to her at length about age discrimination and harassment and also about this man's past- which I won;t get into here but you would not believe it if I told you it is so crazy. Two of the things show his perception regarding my age and also there is a witness I named to it.
Since then, he is being cordial to me at least.
So at this point, the COO has sent an email to us saying she wants to address my work flow and also high tech marketing ideas sometime next week in a meeting.
The past 6 weeks have been hell for me. I find myself crying. I am so unhappy. I had 3 years to go until I could get Medicare and retire- figured I could take SS at 66- but I am just not going to make it.
I was sure they would fire me this week and was actually looking forward to the relief, but it didn't happen.
So- I have contacted a lawyer and am going to have to work on a lengthy questionnaire tomorrow. I do not want to keep my job. I just can't do it anymore and work in this situation knowing what they are trying to do to me. The only point of me getting a lawyer is to maybe get me out of the job with some kind of severance and my PTO days. Someone to do the talking for me as I get emotional and start to cry. I am afraid to try to negotiate a resignation. The other woman that they fired and was there 14 years got 6 weeks severance- but she forgot to ask about PTO days and she mistakenly signed the papers before she thought it through. At least she will also get unemployment. If I am not fired I will not.
I am not sure if I should even continue with this stupid project he has me doing as I want to blow my brains out every day doing it - it is torture for me.
I want to be out by April 1st one way or another. Or at least give notice by then or get fired by then. I haven't slept in weeks and I am in a constant nervous state. I am so done.
How are things going?
My strategy when there was personnel issues in the office: Keep my head down, do the work, and try not to be noticed. Don't rock the boat & don't make waves. Fly under the radar. Then, maybe they'll look elsewhere to stir up trouble. Of course, YMMV.
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