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[ 2016 ] Restrictions on trading Bonnet Creek into DVC through RCI

Discussion in 'Wyndham Vacation Resorts' started by asdfasdf, Jun 5, 2016.

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    asdfasdf TUG Member

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    I traded Bonnet Creek points into Saratoga Springs through RCI. RCI sent me a confirmation that included this bit of info:

    "There is an ownership restriction at this resort. If you made this reservation using points from an Orlando ownership or a resort withing 30 miles of Disneyworld resorts in Orlando, it will be cancelled and you will be notified about rebooking a non-Disney property."

    So far I haven't received a cancellation....anybody have any experience with this issue? Thanks!
     
  2. uscav8r

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    I believe the fact that the points are being deposited from Club Wyndham, and not from a specific resort, keeps you safe. Essentially, your underlying ownership is hidden from DVC when you deposit to RCI.

    But this is just a guess.
     
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    So far, Chris is correct. When mini-system points owners exchange via RCI, the system's "points are points" and they're not associated with a particular home resort. So when WorldMark, Wyndham, HGVC owners use points or credits to do an exchange, the points deposits do not register as regionally blocked. We don't have an Orlando home resort for any of our Wyndham points contracts. But owner services reps have told us repeatedly that only fixed/floating week deposits from Wyndham are subject to RCI's (or II's, in the past) regional blocks. I don't give it a thought. :)
     
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    Okay, thanks so much...I feel much better about it now. I was worried it would get cancelled and I would have to tell my daughter we couldn't go.
     
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    So happy I found this and hope it's true. I too, just got an exchange that I was waiting long time for in Disney. Then I read same thing in my confirmation ans my home resort is in Orlando. When I got my Disney welcome email to sign up for everything, I was somewhat relieved, but still worried. I see these posts were from a while ago, any updates ?
     
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    Yes- just this week. Still no cancellation & got email from Disney to get all my stuff. How do yours work out?
     
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    I have stayed at DVC when I only owned WBC. Points are in a subsystem so you aren't blocked out. I have a points account in Vegas and I don't even see other Vegas properties. And I have a temporary TPU account from a refund of an Orlando stay and I don't see Orlando properties with that one.
     
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    It's true of all mini-systems. RCI has no idea what/where you own, only that you own in Wyndham (or WorldMark, or Bluegreen, or HGVC, or...)
     
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    1. Restrictions seems to be a common element of all timeshares.

    2. Years and years ago, last century as a matter of fact, I appealed to II about their restriction that did not allow those who owned in Orlando from trading into other Orlando resort (Yeah, I understand the reason). They actually changed their policy to allow it if you also owned in another area, which we did. Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets greased.
     
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    Plus, neither resort mentioned is a Wyndham property.]
     
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    If you own Worldmark, Wyndham decides what resort and week actually gets deposited, you can only choose the season and number of bedrooms. I would expect that if Wyndham deposits an Orlando resort week, then the Disney exchange would be denied. However, one of the Worldmark resorts only has 3 bedrooms and the other is in high demand usually, so the actual chances of this happening is low. You are also told the actual week that is deposited by Wyndham on your behalf.
     
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    I did get the exchange. It's been one month ago now & no cancellation notice. As I said, I received confirmation from Disney & already purchase through my Disney welcome package, my wristbands & parks tickets. So, thats why I'm questioning it? Would they still cancel?
     
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    That's not how worldmark works with RCI. You deposit credits (and can do weird amounts if you have them expiring). All RCI sees is your credits. Every once in awhile, Worldmark "settles up" with RCI by giving them a bulk deposit of units.

    There isn't a specific unit that they gave rci for your deposit, and the regional block never applies.
     
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    I stand corrected. My explanation is how Wyndham deposits WM credits into II and I just assumed similar. Thank you for the clarification.
     
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    You should be very worried. That exchange may indeed be cancelled.
     
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    If it gets cancelled, who will cancel it RCI or Disney?
     
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    I'm really confused, can you clarify this for me. What you explain definitely makes sense to me and the confirmation is one month ago & no issues, but others are saying different. PLEASE help me understand or tell me who I should or should not contact. Thank you so much.
     
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    I wouldn't contact anyone. I'm pretty aure the regional block is enforced at booking, not months later. Calling DVC/RCI and asking whether your stay might be cancelled because of a regional block is a terrible idea, because you might get someone who doesn't understand how it works who decides to cancel it.
     
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    Thats what I think too. I can't imagine they would cancel it months later after all plans were made.
     
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    I am sure I saw people unhappy about their trips being cancelled due to regional blocks of DVC.

    If an exchange slips through the cracks, you should count yourself lucky. If it gets cancelled after the fact, then you need to accept it. The warning is clear.
     
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    Have you ever seen one cancelled on a worldmark owner? Worldmark points don't have a home resort, so they aren't really an Orlando resort. I think it is very likely the worldmark owner will be fine.
     
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    Either may cancel it since it's part of their contract with one another.
     
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    Independent points systems like Worldmark are not currently subject to these restrictions as long as the points system has some resorts in other locations. RCI does not "see" a specific resort associated with the member's deposit. The points system (Worldmark, Wyndham, Hilton, etc.) makes bulk deposits of units to RCI, equivalent in value to the total points "deposited" by their members within a given period. Also, members may deposit smaller amounts of points at various times and use these points for a single exchange. No association with a home resort location. Hope that makes sense.
     
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    FWIW, in 1999 I/we exchanged into a resort that we traded into Week 30 several of the preceding years. I recall doing it by phone, because the Guide said, "Oh, they have a 1-in-4 rule. Let me check on that; if I can get it for you, it will be OK."

    She did.

    Then I/we got cancelled. The resort was financially troubled, and had hired a marketing team to get some new cash flowing in, and they had enacted the 1-in-4.

    Me and RCI went round and round, they eventually saying they have a legal department for people like me. We went round and round because there was always plenty of empty units that week, and because of what the Guide had said.

    We actually had an RCI friend in the area book that exchange, and check in, so we were their guests.

    By happenstance, via the Internet years later, an RCI person who had been sitting next to the RCI person who made that decision and I became acquaintances, and we still are today. That unfortunate situation led to our happy timesharing 20 years later and where we live in Florida.

    Life is like a box of chocolates.

    :cool:
     
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    Now that I think about it, that started out because we were not able to get whatever they called "Extra Vacations." I argued that what is essentially rentals should be available to all members regardless where they owned. But, that led to the easing of their Area Restriction like I said.
     

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