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[2013] Beware Redweek4less / IA Vacations / VP Title / [see new names below][merged]

Discussion in 'Buying, Selling & Renting Timeshares' started by SunandFun83, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. skotrla

    skotrla TUG Member

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    I successfully completed a HICV timeshare purchase with KB Travel with closing through VP Title. The transfer went fine, but there was a $500 gift card advertised in the Ebay listing, and I never received it and the seller won't respond to emails.

    -Scott
     
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    That seller [tra 3213] (and related entities) apparently has two lines of "business". One is a timeshare "exit" company where they charge thousands of dollars to owners desperate to get out of worthless timeshares, then dump those timeshare on eBay. The second is a totally criminal line, they list expensive timeshares on eBay that they do not have, and have no intention to get, then string the "buyer" along and keep the money.
     
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  3. RX8

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    There is a third “business” and that appears to be to offer a cash gift card after closing of these timeshares. The gift cards are needed to entice buyers who otherwise would pass. Once closed and transferred looks like they decide to skip on the promised gift card.
     
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  4. chemteach

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    I am posting an update to my situation - I filed a BBB complaint a month ago. VP Title responded with a lie, I responded to their response, and they responded yesterday that they would send me a refund as soon as they can get Worldmark to stop the transfer. (I don't think they ever started the transfer.) Still have some hope of getting my money back. Time will tell.
     
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    I hope you can get your money back but please don't hold your breath :ponder:




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  6. rickandcindy23

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    I have also been promised an amount of money for a successful closing. Never have seen that money. It was a giveaway timeshare, so maybe the company just decided not to honor their ad. I have the ad printed out, so I could make a deal of it, but I probably will not.
     
  7. chemteach

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    This was for the actual payment, not a bonus. Other people have gotten their money back through the BBB complaints, but I'm not holding my breadth... I've learned an expensive lesson on this one. I shouldn't have needed to learn the lesson - been doing timeshares long enough to know better. But I'm not going to let this sour my experiences! Heading to Hawaii for 2 weeks in a month, and then Bora Bora on a timeshare sailing cruise a month later. It's all been worth it!!
     
  8. jjking42

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    BKAssets has a eBay listing for westin kierland right now
    Is this the same guy ?

    Also listing for 6000 worldmark and Marriott shadow ridge


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  9. echino

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    No, bkassets is a different, legitimate seller.
     
  10. jjking42

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    He as negative feedback for Marriott KO’olina that said SCAM buyer beware it was for 7500


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    I question that feedback - BKAssetts has a great track record AFAIK
     
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    I also had a good experience with BKassetts.
     
  13. PamMo

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    These guys (and others just like them) will never stop ripping off people if we don't keep calling them out and exposing their scams. If you've been lied to and cheated over a timeshare sale or purchase, PLEASE report them to the authorities (local police, BBB, FBI, and state attorney general) and keep posting updates here on TUG and other websites, so a Google search will find your posts and help someone else. It may not be a lot of money to you, but it could save countless other victims from being scammed. These scumbags make millions out of scamming sellers and buyers, and they get away with it because victims are too embarrassed to report their losses, or they just drop their complaints because the dollar loss didn't seem worth their time. When I worked with the police and FBI investigating one of these groups, it made me feel sick to hear how arrogant they were towards their victims.
     
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    I just sent off all my information to Detective Brown. Hoping that there is a June grand jury indictment for VP Title. I doubt I will get my money back, but at least there is another set of paperwork showing that this company is fraudulent... I wish there were a way for ebay to deal with this. (I believe ebay is also at fault because they don't check companies that post timeshares for sale.)
     
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    eBay is very much at fault here. When I determined that the company is fraudulent, I posted negative feedback on my transaction. Instead of banning them, eBay promptly removed my negative feedback and hit me with a non-paying bidder penalty, even though I paid those scammers. eBay was not interested in seeing any proof of payment or anything else. eBay is protecting the scammers and refusing to reinstate my negative feedback to this day.
     
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    Just giving an update... I went through the better business bureau to no avail. Then I tried contacting the Sevierville police department, but didn't get a response back. I just emailed the police chief and left a phone message. Hoping (but not too optimistic at this point) for some kind of refund.

    Separate note - I think that whomever wrote about bkassets got some letters mixed up. KB Travel was the bad eBay seller that has since stopped selling on eBay. They change up their name and start selling again. If anyone sees an eBay ad from Sevierville, TN, they should run - and perhaps contact eBay as well about the ad possibly being fraudulent.
     

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