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[ 2012 ] Fairmont / Sunchaser / Northwynd official thread with lawsuit info!

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Anyone else just receive this email from Northwynd?

Sent: April 23/2018

From: "Northwynd Customer Care" <customercare@Northwynd.ca>
Subject: Consent Judgment

Good morning,
Pursuant to the terms of the Settlement Agreement you entered into with the Resort through Geldert Law, you were responsible for paying the Settlement Amount by February 28, 2018 or Consent Judgment would be ordered against you. The Consent Judgment has now been signed and ordered by the Alberta Court of Queen’s Bench.

Please find attached your finalized consent judgment issued by the Alberta Court of Queen’s Bench. In addition, attached is a copy of your Statement of Account as of today which reflects: 1) the base consent judgment; 2) interest from November 30, 2017 pursuant to the Settlement Agreement and paragraph 3 of the Consent Judgment; and 3) your 2018 maintenance fees pursuant to your continuing obligations under your VIA(s). Interest continues to accrue on a daily basis.

Please contact customer service at 1-877-451-1250 or customercare@northwynd.ca to reach an agreement on payment of your judgment and outstanding fees so that your judgment is not turned over for enforcement pursuant to the Civil Enforcement Act.

Please confirm receipt of this email.
Best Regards,
Vacation Ownership Services
Northwynd Resort Properties Ltd.

Invoice attachment is block billing no breakdown just one big old Number!

Check the documents you received and ensure they are filed (does the judgement have a stamp from the court?). Geldert has the habit of sending 'draft copies' and calling them 'true filed copies'. If it is legit, follow up with the Clerk's office to see what you need to do next. I agree with Aden's suggestion; file an Affidavit for the forthcoming appeal and bring up this issue to the Judge's attention.
 
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"46. RVM deceitfully waited almost 2 months after the December 14th Settlement, until
satisfied of a substantial level of anticipated participation in that settlement by
members of the Geldert Group, prior to advising the plaintiffs of its position and
refusal to pay, under the CFA and Subsequent Clarifications or the Alleged
Alternate Agreement."

-from
Sauvageau Vs Resort Villa Management Northmont.


For me, this is it. This confirms an established pattern of deceitful behavior by KMFW; and, his propensity to be playing a game with a hidden objective rather than running a business with an obvious and stated purpose. He contrives bogus circumstances like the plumbing problem. He conjures up transactions like you need to pay me for replacing the plumbing which, he never does in Hillside. Then he sells Hillside as is without any of the promised plumbing improvements.

When he bought the Resort from his Barbados buddies and the poor suckered bondholders, what did he pay? Anyone?

Lecture me all you guys want about the turn of a damn legal phrase. This was a not a legitimate business. #NAFR. It was a precisely orchestrated effort to leverage control, inflate liabilities, devalue assets and facilitate transactions.

It can be as simple as he took in money on the promise to do work but he never did do that work. What do you call that?

The Bankruptcy Court was told they were going to emphasize marketing and were shown a grand plan. Then once they got their debt reduced to pennies on the dollar and gained control of the property, they closed their sales office. Some marketing push.

His treatment of Sauvageau (not that I give a S**t) underscores that KMFW continues to exhibit social inadequacies. He fails to acknowledge that there is supposed to be 'Honor among thieves.' In my opinion, that's what they are, a pair of thieves. You can point out that thus far they are legal thieves but, they are thieves nonetheless.

So just do the simple math. Even a judge should be able to do this equation. KMFW came in an employee and leaves as owner and very rich man. We invested money and came away with zip. How does that add up in a country that is governed by the rule of law. The courts lost sight of the ball. It was all subterfuge dressed-up and paraded around like a legitimate business.
 

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"46. RVM deceitfully waited almost 2 months after the December 14th Settlement, until
satisfied of a substantial level of anticipated participation in that settlement by
members of the Geldert Group, prior to advising the plaintiffs of its position and
refusal to pay, under the CFA and Subsequent Clarifications or the Alleged
Alternate Agreement."

-from
Sauvageau Vs Resort Villa Management Northmont.


For me, this is it. This confirms an established pattern of deceitful behavior by KMFW; and, his propensity to be playing a game with a hidden objective rather than running a business with an obvious and stated purpose. He contrives bogus circumstances like the plumbing problem. He conjures up transactions like you need to pay me for replacing the plumbing which, he never does in Hillside. Then he sells Hillside as is without any of the promised plumbing improvements.

When he bought the Resort from his Barbados buddies and the poor suckered bondholders, what did he pay? Anyone?

Lecture me all you guys want about the turn of a damn legal phrase. This was a not a legitimate business. #NAFR. It was a precisely orchestrated effort to leverage control, inflate liabilities, devalue assets and facilitate transactions.

It can be as simple as he took in money on the promise to do work but he never did do that work. What do you call that?

The Bankruptcy Court was told they were going to emphasize marketing and were shown a grand plan. Then once they got their debt reduced to pennies on the dollar and gained control of the property, they closed their sales office. Some marketing push.

His treatment of Sauvageau (not that I give a S**t) underscores that KMFW continues to exhibit social inadequacies. He fails to acknowledge that there is supposed to be 'Honor among thieves.' In my opinion, that's what they are, a pair of thieves. You can point out that thus far they are legal thieves but, they are thieves nonetheless.

So just do the simple math. Even a judge should be able to do this equation. KMFW came in an employee and leaves as owner and very rich man. We invested money and came away with zip. How does that add up in a country that is governed by the rule of law. The courts lost sight of the ball. It was all subterfuge dressed-up and paraded around like a legitimate business.
Will said
 

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If any of the BC defendants are wondering what is in their file at the BC courts you can click on the link I will be providing and fill in the blanks.
Yes it will cost you money to view the file and then more to access each document within your file. It is not very expensive and it is instantaneous - so if you are curious about the status of your file, here ya go.

https://justice.gov.bc.ca/cso/esearch/civil/partySearch.do
 
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Is anyone here a Hillside owner that is all paid up and in "good standing"? If you are, just wondering if you have received any updates from Northmont? Have you tried to book your 2018 week at Hillside? Or do you have an upcoming week booked at Hillside that you reserved earlier this year?
 

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A contract is an agreement between two or more parties that is enforceable by law. • In order for a contract to be considered valid, there must be:

1. Offer and acceptance 2. Consideration 3. Capacity 4. Consent 5. Lawful purpose
Canadian Law 40S R. Schroeder 2

Offer, Acceptance, Consideration
• In every valid contract, offer, acceptance and consideration are vital aspects. First: An offer is made that contains all of the important and relevant terms of the contract.

Second: Another party agrees to, or accepts, the offer.

Third: After the offer is accepted, something of value (an item or service) is exchanged between the parties involved in the contract. This is called consideration.
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Capacity, Consent, Lawful Purpose
• In every valid contract, both parties must have the ability, or capacity, to understand the terms and nature of the contract. • Each party involved in the contract must also freely consent, or agree, to the terms in the agreement. • Finally, every contract that is negotiated in Canada must have a lawful purpose or objective; in other words, no contract can violate any law.
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Types of Contracts
• An express contract is a legal agreement in which the terms are transparent and known to all the parties involved (e.g. a mortgage with a bank) • An implied contract is a contract that is implied, or inferred by the parties' conduct. (e.g. at a restaurant, it is implied that after eating dinner the customer will pay the bill) • Most contracts are under seal – a formal, written contract that is signed, witnessed, and marked with a seal. • A simple contract is a contract that is not under seal (verbal, written, or implied).
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Elements of a Contract
• In an offer and acceptance, the party who initiates, or makes the offer, is known as the offeror; the party to whom the offer is made is known as the offeree. • In valid contract offers, there must be serious intent on the part of the offeror. • The offer must also contain definite terms, or details. Some terms are clearly defined while others are implied. • When a company or business encourages the purchase of a product or service through advertising, this is an invitation to treat. A contract occurs when the product or service has actually been purchased.
Canadian Law 40S R. Schroeder 6
Communicating & Terminating
• Part of an offer includes communicating the proposed contract to the offeree. • Common methods include communicating in person, by mail, courier, fax, and e-mail. • Communication is not successful unless it is received by the offeree. • An offer can be terminated, or cancelled, for various reasons. • A lapse occurs when an offer is not accepted within a period of time and the offer ends. • An offer may also be revoked, or cancelled, by the offeror before it can be accepted.
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Acceptance
• Similarly, the offeree has a responsibility to clearly communicate its acceptance of the proposed agreement. • Offers may be accepted using the same methods of communication (e.g. mail, courier). • An acceptance must occur before a specified time limit on the offer expires. • The offeree may decide to make a counteroffer, which is a new offer, or amendment to the original offer. • Any counteroffer ends the original offer.


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Consideration
• After an offer is accepted, something of value must be exchanged between the parties who are involved in the contract. • The actual value or amount exchanged between the two parties (consideration) does not matter to the courts. A contract can appear to clearly favour one side over the other. • A court simply wants to see that there is some degree of exchange or consideration involved in the contract.
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Capacity
• A contract will only be considered valid in court if the offeror and offeree had the capacity to understand what they were agreeing to. • Anyone with a developmental disability, impaired judgment, or who is under the age of majority in Canada (18 or 19 years) does not have the capacity to enter into a valid contract. • A minor may enter into a valid contract if it is considered necessary to ensure his or her health and welfare (e.g. an employment contract). • If a contract is not considered to be in the minor’s best interests, it is declared void.
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Consent
• In general, each party in a contract must freely agree, or consent, to the contract. • An offeree must completely understand the terms of the contract. • There are some situations that may prevent consent from occurring: – misrepresentation – mistake – undue influence – duress
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Yes and if you view similar types of lawsuits like ours from around the globe most real lawyers win them simply through Breach of contract! Many people assume that they are permanently bound by these contracts. That is not true if the time-share provider breaches the contract, simply it’s unlawful in the first place.
 

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Question: If we actually are/were "owners" of timeshare property at Fairmont, would we not have had a say in what happens to said property? I have not heard of anyone who was consulted regarding the changes to Hillside. So we "own" Sunchaser enough to pay for renovations, but not enough to get any remuneration from the newly developed hotel and condos on our property. Select Hillside buildings are set to be renovated in the fall this year. We are all paying for that in one way or another I'm quite sure!
As to Aden2's case for contract acceptance, we were clearly not offered the option to consider and consent to our revised NM contracts.
Who knows a good contract lawyer?
 

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The RPF was based on ALL of the resort being renovated. The money that KMFW demanded, was done under False Pretenses. Also the interest charged on the grossly inflated amount for renovations was therefore, not correct. Going back to the NM communications concerning the PFR, where were the three quotes for the work to be done? NM requested that the trustee seek direction from the courts on April 8,2013. This was before "freedom" communication on April 12,2013. Does the word concealment come to mind?
FALSE PRETENSES - Acts or behaviors by a person with the intent to deceive another person. It can also be part of Fraud. This has been more than a breach of contract. If you have paid any of the ransoms you have been deceived.
We are hoping that some of these issues will come to light on May 10th.
 

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Good luck, many of us took the extortionist S.A. as we could no longer afford the fight, 40 grand to this crook that has been a life changer. Deceitful, ruthless thief that hired counsel who is now suing him, for a slice of the pie. Wait for the interesting revelations when these two crooks square off. He has already said NM got much more than they ever imagined, due to great negotiations by MG and DW. You cannot make this stuff up. what a nightmare of white collar crime!
 

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Question: If we actually are/were "owners" of timeshare property at Fairmont, would we not have had a say in what happens to said property? I have not heard of anyone who was consulted regarding the changes to Hillside. So we "own" Sunchaser enough to pay for renovations, but not enough to get any remuneration from the newly developed hotel and condos on our property. Select Hillside buildings are set to be renovated in the fall this year. We are all paying for that in one way or another I'm quite sure!
As to Aden2's case for contract acceptance, we were clearly not offered the option to consider and consent to our revised NM contracts.
Who knows a good contract lawyer?

Owners for taking responsibility for repairing poorly constructed buildings but tenants for enjoying the benefits from those buildings. I cannot believe we lost this case. White collar crime with a complicit legal system.
 

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The legal system is no the problem, the damage was caused by our own 'legal dream team'. Geldert hired only morons to do his dirty work. Geldert himself concocted the entire plot and arranged to have Cox T create the 'f' SIF ensuring it was written in a way to screw everyone of us! The worst is that 90+% felt trapped and paid the ransom. From the 76 defendants left, only 19 have contacted SLG. Where are the others? Do they even know what is happening? Smaller groups have formed to fight the latest interests' appeal. We continue moving in different directions and again, no lawyer is available, they all believe that the forthcoming appeal is a battle that we cannot win! They are probably right but we have no choice but to defend ourselves. Again, thanks Michael Geldert, to you and all of your MF 'L'Friends for ruining our lives; your actions are never to be forgotten.

I wonder how many of us would be attending the May 10th hearing?
 
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I encourage everyone to attend court. Option 1's, Option 2.....there has been much suffering and loss. Strength in numbers and visible support.

Thursday, May 10th, 2018
Edmonton Court House - Judge Gill
9 AM start time. Arrive early to get through security.
Hope to see LOTS of people there.

Feeling lost and confused? It will be a good time to connect with others, be active in the court process, learn and share, start planning and organizing depending on outcomes, etc. We are not merely individuals who have experienced this....we are several hundred, several thousands of people that have been impacted. There is strength in numbers and we all collectively have a role to play. JFK once said "One person can make a difference and everyone should try."
 

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Truth R You are correct we were all MG clients at that time , but what I heard was they had filed a number of claims both in Alberta and BC and that several were already outdated/past expiry and would need to be refiled and that he MR S. was going to continue to file on behalf of NM individual claims. Judge Young indicated that she was unhappy about that but he did have that right and was hopeful this current action would relieve her judicial department of that onslaught of actions.

Her decision is very specific and does not discuss any of these comments / exchanges as they would only be in trial transcripts which I do not have.
With our lawyer causing many of us to reject the "negotiated settlement" NM will have no alternative but to sue us individually and I am sure it will please her judicial department to know they have work for the next several years. Or as Judge Young said "I will be retired before this is over" * *Quoted from my memory of the day.

Remember that collection agencies only get remunerated when they collect and NM has gotten their rate with Mr. S reduced according to what we heard in the town hall meeting in Edmonton with MG present.
NM is just trying to maximize their income /profit with no return to the consumers (us) and who knows about the investors.

They may cease to exist before they can take us all to court to sue for the inflated amounts.

It is always so interesting to go back and read old posts that didn't seem to mean much at the time but with new information a new light is shed on it.
Like this one talking about Mr. S having his rate reduced by NM - if MG was the one who said that kinda makes one wonder how he knew what NM was up to way back then. :ponder:
I have always wondered why MG had so much "inside" information.

And now with the new information that was uncovered just this week not only did they reduce his rate looks like they cut him out entirely.
 

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Replied to NM's e-mail Re: my post #5074,

Today they returned bunch of threats, although this was interesting!

If Geldert Law acted without instructions from you, this is an issue between yourself and Geldert Law, but does not invalidate the agreement and consent judgment. If you have any questions about the effect of a settlement entered into by your legal counsel, you should seek legal advice.

The courts have affirmed that the Resort has acted reasonably and you are responsible for the charges you have been invoiced. If you have any questions, you should seek legal advice.

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*I contacted Justice Gill's office to be included in the appeal and fwd to Mr. Virtue & Mr. King I received a reply very quickly from Mr Gills office.

"Your email will be addressed at the next court Hearing (May 10, 2018 at 9 AM). If you wish to speak to the matters raised in your email you will have to be present at that hearing.
 
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Yeah, seek legal advice. We did that and the result was abysmal. It pleases me to no end that those of you who did not give in to the extortion have this chance to speak for yourselves. You will be far more sincere than geldert and his hired hands ever were. We were threatened with having to pay $55,000 if we didn’t accept the “ excellent settlement”. We simply could not have paid that, what we paid was a terrible financial blow. I wrote letters upon letters - all just a truckload of disappointment. I wish all of you great success at the hearing. I have no doubt you can explain the meaning of the word “ lease”, which is a concept that geldert and all those he hired with our money never were able to get across to the judges.
 

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Yeah, seek legal advice. We did that and the result was abysmal. It pleases me to no end that those of you who did not give in to the extortion have this chance to speak for yourselves. You will be far more sincere than geldert and his hired hands ever were. We were threatened with having to pay $55,000 if we didn’t accept the “ excellent settlement”. We simply could not have paid that, what we paid was a terrible financial blow. I wrote letters upon letters - all just a truckload of disappointment. I wish all of you great success at the hearing. I have no doubt you can explain the meaning of the word “ lease”, which is a concept that geldert and all those he hired with our money never were able to get across to the judges.


I wonder why our smart lawyers could not get across to the smart judges the ordinary meaning of the word "lease", unless the judges didn't want to accept the ordinary commonly understood concept of a lease.
 

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Our lawyer fought the wrong case, by the time B.K. tried to introduce the lease discrepancy, the battle had already been fought and lost under the Jeke test case thus rejudica stated by Judge young. A comedy of errors over 4 years but Jeke escaped unscathed under the guise of a numbered company.
 

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Our lawyer fought the wrong case, by the time B.K. tried to introduce the lease discrepancy, the battle had already been fought and lost under the Jeke test case thus rejudica stated by Judge young. A comedy of errors over 4 years but Jeke escaped unscathed under the guise of a numbered company.

If JEKE could get away unscathed, why did he (Jim Belfry) spend two years of his life fighting Northmont?
 
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My understanding is that the Geldert group paid for Belfry’s test case legal fees . It is also my understanding that the Belfry’s timeshare was not purchased by an individual but rather by a little family - member owned company .That was what was billed for the fees from Northmont so they just declared it to be bankrupt. Perhaps the timeshare was the company’s only asset.
 

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My understanding is that the Geldert group paid for Belfry’s test case legal fees . It is also my understanding that the Belfry’s timeshare was not purchased by an individual but rather by a little family - member owned company .That was what was billed for the fees from Northmont so they just declared it to be bankrupt. Perhaps the timeshare was the company’s only asset.

That's one explanation but I think there are others.
 

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Perhaps you could apprise us of the others Gypsy1. I am not aware of any other explanation this was the one provided to the Geldert group .
 

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Perhaps you could apprise us of the others Gypsy1. I am not aware of any other explanation this was the one provided to the Geldert group .

I do wonder why Jim Belfry would spend two years fighting Northmont if he was untouchable. The reservation I have accepting the explanation you give is based on speculation not proof and I don't wish to publicly speculate.
 

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Just a friendly reminder that tomorrow is the deadline to submit that form to Jud Virtue, you know the one giving him the heads up you want to proceed with the appeal.:rolleyes:
I have attached the PDF here. :)
 

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I do wonder why Jim Belfry would spend two years fighting Northmont if he was untouchable. The reservation I have accepting the explanation you give is based on speculation not proof and I don't wish to publicly speculate.
I suspect he fought because he wanted to toss out Northmount and have the leasees take over running the resort. He was the one that directed Geldert on proving "incompetence" by Northmount, which of course failed......yet he lied in court and said that Geldert was directing the way the trial was going.
 
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