mig1
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WKORV
DVC Animal Kingdom Lodge
Just left an owner update.....have a few questions.
We never go to these with any serious interest in buying or upgrading and approached today's update with the same mindset. We went for the 20,000 Marriott points.
From the outset we were very honest and told the rep that we were only there for the points. She said she had to spend at least 90 minutes with us so we went into the Flex program again as I told her we had no interest in converting or selling our WKORV property.
She then shifted her presentation to trying to get us to buy 40,000 EOY Flex Points to get us to 3 star elite. Mostly for the benefits that being a 3 star elite member would provide. I'm not sure that I place much value on being able to convert or bank later in the year but the ability to be able to make a reservation in Hawaii checking in on any day of the week and staying less than a full week might have some allure. Even then I'm not sure how much value I place on that.
The real "value" proposition was in the ability to buy over 1MM Marriott points for what I believe was around $2,000. She talked so fast that I couldn't get the actual price and didn't want to stop her because again......not sure how interested in buying points I am. She said that if I were to "upgrade" by purchasing $10,000 to get me to 3* Elite I would be able to buy up to 6 Marriott Points packages and depending on when I wanted to be able to use these points (2020 or 2021) it would affect the incentive...the more I delay the first use year, the larger the incentive of Marriott Points up to 216,000 total.
So the takeaway is, for an extra 10K plus a yearly increase in MF's of about 400 to start, I'd become 3*, have 216,000 Marriott points added to my account, and have 40,000 Flex points added into my account.
If I were to delay this decision by purchasing the "Encore" Package (formerly the Explorer) which is $895, I'd get another 100,000 Marriott points, be able to return for another 4 nights and 5 Days and if I were to purchase at that point, the money I paid for the "Encore" Package would go toward the price of the additional Flex options to get me to 3*.
My question for everyone here is does ANY of this seem to make sense? I'm not crazy about FLEX at all, I have no problem making reservations at any of the properties we seem to visit in less than 8 months (in spite of the scare tactics the sales people keep throwing at us), and I'm not sure just how much value 3* elite is other than assuming it will have some type of value once the Marriott and Vistana properties are all under one umbrella.
Should I do this? Or......should I buy the Encore Package as a hedge to lock in today's incentives and prices?
Typically I would have no interest in this.....but it seems like a small amount for what might be a lot of value for just the Marriott points alone.
Love to get some opinions.
We never go to these with any serious interest in buying or upgrading and approached today's update with the same mindset. We went for the 20,000 Marriott points.
From the outset we were very honest and told the rep that we were only there for the points. She said she had to spend at least 90 minutes with us so we went into the Flex program again as I told her we had no interest in converting or selling our WKORV property.
She then shifted her presentation to trying to get us to buy 40,000 EOY Flex Points to get us to 3 star elite. Mostly for the benefits that being a 3 star elite member would provide. I'm not sure that I place much value on being able to convert or bank later in the year but the ability to be able to make a reservation in Hawaii checking in on any day of the week and staying less than a full week might have some allure. Even then I'm not sure how much value I place on that.
The real "value" proposition was in the ability to buy over 1MM Marriott points for what I believe was around $2,000. She talked so fast that I couldn't get the actual price and didn't want to stop her because again......not sure how interested in buying points I am. She said that if I were to "upgrade" by purchasing $10,000 to get me to 3* Elite I would be able to buy up to 6 Marriott Points packages and depending on when I wanted to be able to use these points (2020 or 2021) it would affect the incentive...the more I delay the first use year, the larger the incentive of Marriott Points up to 216,000 total.
So the takeaway is, for an extra 10K plus a yearly increase in MF's of about 400 to start, I'd become 3*, have 216,000 Marriott points added to my account, and have 40,000 Flex points added into my account.
If I were to delay this decision by purchasing the "Encore" Package (formerly the Explorer) which is $895, I'd get another 100,000 Marriott points, be able to return for another 4 nights and 5 Days and if I were to purchase at that point, the money I paid for the "Encore" Package would go toward the price of the additional Flex options to get me to 3*.
My question for everyone here is does ANY of this seem to make sense? I'm not crazy about FLEX at all, I have no problem making reservations at any of the properties we seem to visit in less than 8 months (in spite of the scare tactics the sales people keep throwing at us), and I'm not sure just how much value 3* elite is other than assuming it will have some type of value once the Marriott and Vistana properties are all under one umbrella.
Should I do this? Or......should I buy the Encore Package as a hedge to lock in today's incentives and prices?
Typically I would have no interest in this.....but it seems like a small amount for what might be a lot of value for just the Marriott points alone.
Love to get some opinions.