Float Plane Crash Over Alaska Leaves Five Cruise Passengers Dead, 10 Hospitalized

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Float Plane Crash Over Alaska Leaves Five Cruise Passengers Dead, 10 Hospitalized
By Chelsia Rose Marcius/ Awful/ Daily Beast/ thedailybeast.com

"Five people were killed and 10 others hospitalized after two float planes carrying cruise ship passengers crashed in midair over southeast Alaska, ABC News reports. The flying excursions were sold through Princess Cruise Lines, which confirmed that the pilot of a de Havilland DHC-2 Beaver and its four passengers died in the collision with a de Havilland Otter DHC-3 near Ketchikan. “We are deeply saddened to report this news and our thoughts and prayers are with those who lost their lives and the families of those impacted by today’s accident,” Princess Cruises said in a statement. “The flight was returning from a Misty Fjords tour and carried ten guests from Royal Princess and a pilot. A second float plane was also involved in an incident and was carrying four guests from Royal Princess on an independent tour.” Princess Cruises said it is giving its “full support to traveling companions of the guests involved.” Taquan Air, which owns the Otter, said it will cooperate with the investigation. “We are devastated by this news and our hearts go out to our passengers and their families,” the company said in a statement. “At this time, we are in the midst of an active crisis response... Taquan Air has suspended all scheduled flights and is cooperating fully with the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and other authorities to examine every aspect of this event.”...."

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Richard

 

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Two Small Planes Crashed in Alaska. Why Few Experts Were Surprised.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/14/travel/alaska-planecrash-small-planes.html.


Richard

 

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Twenty-five years ago, my ex rented a movie entitled "Bush Pilots of Alaska" while working on her own private pilot's license. She suggested that, one day, she might move there and become one. At the end of the movie there was a dedication which listed pilots who had died in the previous five years. I recall that it's length was rather sobering, to say the least.

 

[x3 skier]

My already abysmal opinion of modern “journalism” has once again been validated after reading the N Y Times article.

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Bodies of 2 missing after Alaska Float plane collision found; 6 dead in crash.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...alaska-float-plane-collision-found-6-n1005766.


Richard

 

[wilma]

My already abysmal opinion of modern “journalism” has once again been validated after reading the N Y Times article.

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How so?

 

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How so?

Quoting various “expert” sources who believe more regulation is the answer to general aviation accidents when at least one the accident aircraft likely violated at least one cardinal regulation on the books already and general aviation safety has already been safer every year within the current set of regulations is lazy. Why didn’t the journalist ask general aviation organizations like Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association or the Experimental Aircraft Association or any of a number of other organizations?

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[LannyPC]

Quoting various “expert” sources who believe more regulation is the answer to general aviation accidents when at least one the accident aircraft likely violated at least one cardinal regulation on the books already and general aviation safety has already been safer every year within the current set of regulations is lazy. Why didn’t the journalist ask general aviation organizations like Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association or the Experimental Aircraft Association or any of a number of other organizations?

So I'm just trying to clarify. I'm not disputing your point or refuting it, just trying to clarify what you beef is. The problem was not that the regulations were not stringent enough. The problem was that the pilot and/or the owning company of the ill-fated plane did not follow the adequate regulations properly. But the experts that were interviewed put the blame on the regulations (or lack thereof) rather than on the pilot/company where it should belong.

Does that about explain it?

 

[OldGuy]

Air-related, the evening news-es tonight are reporting of pilots' appeal to Boeing after the first crash but before the second one, saying they didn't even know the (now-known defective) system was even on the 737, and the Boeing engineer saying, "It's horrible that we had the crash, but it would be even more horrible if there's another one."

 

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Yes, that’s

So I'm just trying to clarify. I'm not disputing your point or refuting it, just trying to clarify what you beef is. The problem was not that the regulations were not stringent enough. The problem was that the pilot and/or the owning company of the ill-fated plane did not follow the adequate regulations properly. But the experts that were interviewed put the blame on the regulations (or lack thereof) rather than on the pilot/company where it should belong.

Does that about explain it?

If the writer and the Editor really wanted to inform the reader rather than have what I feel was the need to generate generate clicks by saying “ Few experts were surprised”, a more balanced view could be achieved by interviewing a few other “experts” who might have a different view.

What really happened will likely be determined by the NTSB and is mostly irrelevant to my jaundiced view. The article looks like the writer, and by inference on my part, the Editor and the N.Y. Times, feel more regulation would prevent such tragedies so they published experts who have the same view.

It’s not just the N.Y. Times or any other news organizations that I believe have this focus, right or left, conservative or liberal, the reality is, IMNSHO, the distinction between editorial and news has become so blurred as to become indistinguishable.

Opinions are for the editorial page, not in a news article but I feel like King Canute commanding the tide to cease.

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[davidvel]

Air-related, the evening news-es tonight are reporting of pilots' appeal to Boeing after the first crash but before the second one, saying they didn't even know the (now-known defective) system was even on the 737, and the Boeing engineer saying, "It's horrible that we had the crash, but it would be even more horrible if there's another one."

But the pilots of the second crash were well aware of the system, and they still crashed the plane by (allegedly) failing to follow proper procedure, the same way the first pilots (allegedly) did.

 

[OldGuy]

But the pilots of the second crash were well aware of the system, and they still crashed the plane by (allegedly) failing to follow proper procedure, the same way the first pilots (allegedly) did.

still had the second crash