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Help with deposit - full 3BR or split?

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We have owned a 3BR MGV Gold for a few years and I have only ever deposited the full 3BR with II. This resulted in 2 successful trades into a 3BR at Marriott Maui when we only requested a 2BR. This year we matched with a 2BR at Waiohai. It's time to deposit again and I am wondering if I should be locking it off to trade and if it would really affect the trading value? We always go to Hawaii in early December. It would be nice to have an extra studio with Marriott preference to trade, but our most important trade is getting into Hawaii.

As a side note, when I log into Marriott it looks like I choose II Owner Deposit and then have to do 2 different transactions to split it?
 

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An intact 3BR is very very powerful in Marriott world. I would believe that puts you at the very top of the heap.

If you need another difficult trade (Waiohai/Maui 2BR) then you may wish to stay with the 3BR deposit.

If you’re looking for an easier trade (Ko Olina or gold season somewhere) then you don’t need all that trade power.

Personally, I’ve never matched a trade to Waiohai even when using good traders so congrats on your current success!

Where do you want to go with this next deposit?

Best,

Greg
 

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When I do a "split", I select the unit that I want to reserve. Like the "Master" or the "Guest" unit. Select the date for that particular unit size, select II Owner deposit, and pay the $80 (?) split fee. Then I go back and reserve the other side/unit. There is no split fee on the second transaction.

I think that early December is fairly low demand in Hawaii. So if you are depositing a high-demand MGV week (2 BR) you should probably get your exchange. Having an extra studio is nice. Last fall I used my studio to book Newport Coast (2BR).
 

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We have owned a 3BR MGV Gold for a few years and I have only ever deposited the full 3BR with II. This resulted in 2 successful trades into a 3BR at Marriott Maui when we only requested a 2BR. This year we matched with a 2BR at Waiohai. It's time to deposit again and I am wondering if I should be locking it off to trade and if it would really affect the trading value? We always go to Hawaii in early December. It would be nice to have an extra studio with Marriott preference to trade, but our most important trade is getting into Hawaii.

As a side note, when I log into Marriott it looks like I choose II Owner Deposit and then have to do 2 different transactions to split it?
I too would split it. I doubt the 2BR vs 3BR deposit would make any difference on success, esp for early Dec in HI which is a lower demand time. I'd lock it off selecting a top week and if necessary, pay the lockoff fee and any upgrade fees.
 

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I would split it. II has a feature that you can pay and upgrade fee of $79 to get a larger unit, if available. When I had lock out units that is what I did. I have another unit that is a three bedroom non lock out and a lot of the times had to settle for a two bedroom unit, because three bedrooms units were available.
 
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I think that early December is fairly low demand in Hawaii. So if you are depositing a high-demand MGV week (2 BR) you should probably get your exchange. Having an extra studio is nice.

I agree -- if you're looking for Hawaii in December, I don't think you need the trading power of the intact 3BR and you will get a good trade with just the 2BR side. Having the extra studio deposit is nice to have.

Best,

Greg
 

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Thanks everyone. Since our top priority is getting into MMO or MM1 in a 2 BR we decided to keep the 3BR in tact. We know there would be a lot more 2BR GV to compete with and hopefully the 3BR continues to give us the edge. But maybe one year I will test it and see if there really is a difference.
 

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Thanks everyone. Since our top priority is getting into MMO or MM1 in a 2 BR we decided to keep the 3BR in tact. We know there would be a lot more 2BR GV to compete with and hopefully the 3BR continues to give us the edge. But maybe one year I will test it and see if there really is a difference.
I think your choice of weeks and depositing early on more important factors than two bedroom versus three bedroom.
 

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Thanks everyone. Since our top priority is getting into MMO or MM1 in a 2 BR we decided to keep the 3BR in tact. We know there would be a lot more 2BR GV to compete with and hopefully the 3BR continues to give us the edge. But maybe one year I will test it and see if there really is a difference.
Two weeks ago I stayed in a 2 BR 3-bath MMO. I exchanged a lower TDI Marriott Canyon Villas 2 BR. I exchanged into a 1 BR and then e-plussed into a 2 BR. So, it can be done.
 

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Two weeks ago I stayed in a 2 BR 3-bath MMO. I exchanged a lower TDI Marriott Canyon Villas 2 BR. I exchanged into a 1 BR and then e-plussed into a 2 BR. So, it can be done.

How much was it to eplus into in 2 BR?
 

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How much was it to eplus into in 2 BR?
I eplussed it a couple of week before check in. So there was zero cost to upgrade (other than the original eplus cost). I think that when you are within either 30 or 59 days that the unit upgrade cost goes away.
 

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Thanks everyone. Since our top priority is getting into MMO or MM1 in a 2 BR we decided to keep the 3BR in tact. We know there would be a lot more 2BR GV to compete with and hopefully the 3BR continues to give us the edge. But maybe one year I will test it and see if there really is a difference.

With the 2BR portion of my 3BR MGC, I've seen around 20 MMO/MM1 December weeks available for instant exchange since July. Similar to what @Dean stated, this leads me to believe a good 2BR week, deposited early, would get you there in the timeframe you want.
 
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