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Maui Bay Villas by Hilton Grand Vacations Club

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I think they are either going to need a pedestrian bridge or a tunnel because someone is gonna get whacked on that road.
 

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I think they are either going to need a pedestrian bridge or a tunnel because someone is gonna get whacked on that road.

I think there was another thread with concerns about local flooding where the resort is going. Not sure a tunnel would work if the flooding threat is real....

But I agree the road is busy enough to be a concern.
 

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Visited the site last week and spoke to 2 locals (one fishing and the other a homeless fellow who uses the old Building 400 as shelter). Both were not excited about the new construction. The fisherman said that Hilton will be improving costal area as well as some well needed park improvements nex door. He did not think his fishing would be affected. The homeless guy said all the activity has been across the street and nobody really bothered him. He said the only activity he had observed on the ocean side was surveyors who ignored him. While I was there heavy equipment was grading and moving (not removing) palm trees. The fisherman who claimed he had a background in constrction, could not understand why they would not use existing cement "base footers" for new buidings. Yes, traffic was terrible when I was there. According to the homeless guy, Hilton will be buiding some type of walkway or will contribute to a control device at the intersection at the property corner. Apparently this was a big concern of the local government.

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Visited the site last week and spoke to 2 locals (one fishing and the other a homeless fellow who uses the old Building 400 as shelter). Both were not excited about the new construction. The fisherman said that Hilton will be improving costal area as well as some well needed park improvements nex door. He did not think his fishing would be affected. The homeless guy said all the activity has been across the street and nobody really bothered him. He said the only activity he had observed on the ocean side was surveyors who ignored him. While I was there heavy equipment was grading and moving (not removing) palm trees. The fisherman who claimed he had a background in constrction, could not understand why they would not use existing cement "base footers" for new buidings. Yes, traffic was terrible when I was there. According to the homeless guy, Hilton will be buiding some type of walkway or will contribute to a control device at the intersection at the property corner. Apparently this was a big concern of the local government.

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I am a general contractor. I don't know what exists there for building footings. However, reusing existing foundations for modern buildings is rarely done. Engineering standards are higher than what was built 15 years ago. For example, the average footing for a basic house where I'm at was 12x12. Haven't had an engineer spec a footing size that small in at least 15 years. To retrofit the footings and hardware (hold downs, anchor bolts, etc) is not cost effective. If there are any layout changes, forget it.
 

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I guess the homeless guy will eventually be removed. I am sure he is NOT happy about construction plans long term. LOL. There appears to be plans for a new club house building and pool on the oceanside, at least according to the drawing released.
 

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The best the artist could draw is 16 beach chairs on the sand! Looks like it's gonna be tight!
 

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We were just in Kikei. I didn’t look for the construction site but I did go down to the couple of beaches I could find. They were all nice, looked like there was decent snorkeling but they were all pretty busy/crowded.

We’re not really beach people so it wouldn’t be a negative for us but it may be for others. Or maybe I was looking in the wrong area?

Edit: just looked on the map. It’s north of the area I drove
 
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I went by the site or at least where I think it is located. I snapped a few pics.
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View of construction area
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View of beach side of road
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View of park next door to property
 

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The resort does have a stone retaining wall for most of the resort beach front access, however as @GT75 posts the picture above, it is worth noting that Kalepolepo Park next door, does have better sand beach.

But this is also the drainage outlet to the ocean from any upcountry rainfall that has collected, so not sure how that impacts water quality in the area. After a rainfall, there will be sediments in the water at best, but other things at worst.
 
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@Sandy VDH, did I get pictures of the correct area for the new HGVC villas on Maui?

Btw, I observed that road to be very busy while I was there (as others have already stated)
 

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I think so @GT75, but I can't read the street sign. That park in your last picture is just to the south of the Location. Obviously the park is not part of the parcel of land, Hilton owns the land just north of this park. They also own the land between the road and the ocean.

I was mentioning it as obviously if you are looking for more Sand beach area, this park is convenient.

There have been many comments about the traffic. They might have to put a cross walk in. Not ideal, but it finally a Maui location, and finally with some plans (again).
 

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That park in your last picture is just to the south of the Location.

Thanks. Yes. I was actually taking the pictures of the construction site and fenced area on the beach side from the park.
 

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They might have to put a cross walk in.
There actually is already a cross walk there, but personally I think that they will need a better solution. The drawing to me looks like there is a tunnel under the roadway.
 

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I saw the same site last week when we were on Maui. Lots of bulldozers and earth moving going on then. I'm not a big fan of Kihei when compared to Kaanapali, but I'm sure HGVC will create a great resort. We're at HGVC Kohala Suites on the Big Island this week.
 

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I'm not a big fan of Kihei when compared to Kaanapali
I agree that the Kaanapali area does look like a better area than Kihei area now that I have seen both. I would too book Kaanapalia area if I had that option via either Westin or Marrott. But for me that won’t be an option so I will just have to “make do” with the HGVC Maui Bay Villas location.
 

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I agree that the Kaanapali area does look like a better area than Kihei area now that I have seen both. I would too book Kaanapalia area if I had that option via either Westin or Marrott. But for me that won’t be an option so I will just have to “make do” with the HGVC Maui Bay Villas location.

Agree as well. While Ka'anapali is definitely heavily touristed, there is a reason...it's a nicer location (and we have stayed at both). Also, the running is better
in the Ka'anapali area...and that's important.

On the flip-side, both Sansei sushi (with the half-price nights) and Maui Brewing Company are n Kihei. Lemonade from lemons.

Cheers.
 

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I saw the same site last week when we were on Maui. Lots of bulldozers and earth moving going on then. I'm not a big fan of Kihei when compared to Kaanapali, but I'm sure HGVC will create a great resort. We're at HGVC Kohala Suites on the Big Island this week.
Please, stay up in Kaanapali. Kihei is getting too crowded. :)
 

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While Ka'anapali is definitely heavily touristed, there is a reason...it's a nicer location (and we have stayed at both).
I have to disagree that Ka'anapali is a nicer location. The resorts alongs Ka'anapali Beach are definitely nicer than those down in Kihei, but the beaches from Kihei down through Makena are far superior to Ka'anapali Beach and the others in West Maui in my opinion. We just got back from an extended week in Kihei because our trade requests didn't come through from the Ka'anapali resorts (every time before this has been at either a Starwood or Marriott property in Ka'anapali). While the resort quality was definitely a few notches below those we've stayed at in Ka'anapali, I think I prefer the variety of beaches in South Maui and the closer proximity to Kahului.

Both locations are great and I'd be happy to stay in either place.
 

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I have to disagree that Ka'anapali is a nicer location.

Both locations are great and I'd be happy to stay in either place.

It's not really an "agree" or "disagree." It's just different preferences. We've stayed in both locations and we much prefer Ka'anapali. Much better, IMO, for a morning run and strolling. Since we don't hang out at beaches, that matters less.

But, I also agree strongly with the last point :)

Cheers.
 

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We hope to enjoy the best of both worlds. Our Kaanapali Westin OF week 1 and Kihei HGVC Maui week 2 (or a few days midweek if the points are sky high). There should be good availability in 2021 when it opens because of unsold inventory. If not, we will revisit the Big Island or Oahu.

Alternatively, if one of our kids cannot join and don't need the 2 bdrm, we will lock-off our Westin and stay another week. $185/night or $1300/week (our MF for lock-off) for oceanfront Kaanapali during prime summer season can't be beat.
 
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Personally, I really do like the Kihei area. The town is charming (although a little funky) and the Wailea beaches are terrific. I do remember the wind kicking up significantly in the afternoon, but I think the Kihei location will be a winner. And as much as I love my Maui Ocean Club weeks, the beach is not that good, and the water is very very rocky, so we look at it, but are rarely in it. I will be curious to visit the Kihei property when it opens.

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There actually is already a cross walk there, but personally I think that they will need a better solution. The drawing to me looks like there is a tunnel under the roadway.

We walk all the time in Honolulu and in accord with the traffic controlled devices cross the streets safely. However, we feel that crosswalks that DON"T have traffic control devices ie Stop Signs, Red lights etc. are just accidents waiting to happen. When drivers are accustomed to driving right thru cross walks everyday and then all of a sudden a pedestrian appears in front of them that is dangerous. Put a Stop Sign or better yet Red Lights with push buttons to control the traffic in a manner that becomes familiar to drivers.
 

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I have to disagree that Ka'anapali is a nicer location. The resorts alongs Ka'anapali Beach are definitely nicer than those down in Kihei, but the beaches from Kihei down through Makena are far superior to Ka'anapali Beach and the others in West Maui in my opinion. We just got back from an extended week in Kihei because our trade requests didn't come through from the Ka'anapali resorts (every time before this has been at either a Starwood or Marriott property in Ka'anapali). While the resort quality was definitely a few notches below those we've stayed at in Ka'anapali, I think I prefer the variety of beaches in South Maui and the closer proximity to Kahului.

Both locations are great and I'd be happy to stay in either place.

That's what's so great about Maui - there is something for every taste. If either area was the best for everyone, it would become so overcrowded. I do agree the Wailea/Makena beaches are better than West Maui, but I'd rather have proximity to Lahaina than Kahului. Nothing there for us but the airport. All of our favorite restaurants, activities, and shops are in Lahaina, Kaanapali, or Kapalua. Once it opens, I would be open to trying the new HGVC, but based on what I've seen of Kihei timeshares just driving by, it would be the only one I would want to sample. In either case, however, Maui No Ka Oi (Maui is the Best).
 

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There have been some really cool new additions to HGVC and this is most definitely one of them. Very excited to go!
 
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