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[OFFICIAL Vistana *2019* Maintenance Fees Thread]

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I know how much this news upsets the narrative that is trumpeted about by some, but it's true.

2019 MF at WKORVN are $2,640.90

2018 - $2,713.26

2017 - $2,721.75

2016 - $2,742.65

Three decreases in a row.
2016 also had a "Special Assessment" of $289.69
 

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Some of your numbers include the VSN fee and therefore are not representative of the true MFs and the direction those MFs are going.

2018 - $2,713.26 includes $151.04 of VSN Membership Fee. Correct amount for 2018 - $2,562.22

2017 - $2,721.75 includes $145.60 of VSN Membership Fee. Correct amount for 2017 - $2,576.15

I'm unable to lay my hands on my 2016 information at this time.

Therefore the difference between 2018 and 2019 is a 3.07% INCREASE not a decrease. (Same as shown in Post #3 above).

Gotta love Tuggers keeping facts and numbers to counter the misinformed.

The past numbers are listed in database.

WSJ-VGV MFs have been essentially the same since 2012.



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This is one reason I don't like how the database includes the VSN fee, it isn't comparing Apples to Apples. Some people pay $50 for a given week, others pay $150, yet some still will pay $0.
 

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This is one reason I don't like how the database includes the VSN fee, it isn't comparing Apples to Apples. Some people pay $50 for a given week, others pay $150, yet some still will pay $0.

Correct. The database was changed at some point in past. I have numbers broken down going back to early 2000s or openings for WKORV, WKV, WSJ-VGV and WPORV. But I think Nico would need to add.


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New Vistana owner. Statement says "due Jan 2 2019" or late fees will apply. Is this a hard due date? or is there a grace period?
 
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I would not pay late - that can cancel your 2019 reservstions.

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New Vistana owner. Statement says "due Jan 2 2019" or late fees will apply. Is this a hard due date? or is there a grace period?
You would technically incur the late fees after that date, but they may or may not charge them. They won't start initiating foreclosure proceedings until about 4-6 months later. But as Denise indicated, they will start cancelling reservations pretty quickly.
 

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Correct. The database was changed at some point in past. I have numbers broken down going back to early 2000s or openings for WKORV, WKV, WSJ-VGV and WPORV. But I think Nico would need to add.


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The problem is that the database includes a field for the VSN fee. Then a field for the total without the VSN or ARDA fee, but with any user entry type form people may just enter the total they see on the website. It would be best if the Db would just add up all the applicable fields and calculate the total. Either way it works, just more work for me to manually calculate the MFs to make sure I am comparing apples to apples.
 

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Thanks @DeniseM & @dioxide45 As a new owner it is good to know the policy. We don't want our reservations cancelled. Some systems are due Jan 1 but you have 30 days before late fees kick in.
 

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2019 MF
$577.25 Operating Assessment
$127.00 Replacement Reserves
= $704.25 total

This is compared to a 2018 MF of $688.52.

Total increase is $15.73 or 2.3%.
 

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2019 MF
$1,178.36 Vacation Ownership Assessment
$293.45 Common Condo Assessment
$54.17 Estimated Real Estate Tax
= $1,525.98 total

This is compared to a 2018 MF of $1,502.38.

Total increase is $23.60 or 1.6%.
 

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2019 Operating Assessment -- $1133.39
2019 Replacement Reserves -- $339.29

TOTAL -- $1473.28 + property taxes

Increase of 2.6% (mostly due to increase in minimum wage and income tax expense)
 

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2019 Operating Assessment -- $600.81
2019 Replacement Reserves -- $179.11
2019 Estimated Real Estate Tax -- $112.60

TOTAL -- $892.52

Increase of 2% (mostly due to insurance and income tax expense)
 

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2019 Operating Assessment -- $832.15
2019 Replacement Reserves -- $234.34
2019 Estimated Real Estate Tax -- $153.79

TOTAL -- $1220.28

Increase of 2.2% (mostly due to insurance and income tax expense)
 

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2019 Operating Assessment $760.09
2019 Replacement Reserves $259.28
2019 Estimated Real Estate Tax $174.79

2019 Total: $1,194.16

2018 Total: $1,149.81, increase of $44.35, amounts to 3.86%
 

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2019 Operating Assessment $739.86
2019 Replacement Reserves $253.19
2019 Estimated Real Estate Tax $134.07
2019 Total: $1,181.12

2018 Total: $1,168.61 --> Increase of $12.51, amounts to 1.07% increase
 
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This is one reason I don't like how the database includes the VSN fee, it isn't comparing Apples to Apples. Some people pay $50 for a given week, others pay $150, yet some still will pay $0.

What exactly is the Membership fee for and when is it applicable? Line item says "Membership Fee - if applicable"
 

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Harborside Resort at Atlantis Phase I, 2-bedroom lockoff, week 51:

Maintenance Fee(s)
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$ 2,593.27
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Tax - If Applicable
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$ 348.92
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Membership Fee - If Applicable
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$ 145.00
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Other*
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$ 169.45
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Interest
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$ 0.00
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Late Fees
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$ 0.00
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Current Year Charges
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$ 3,256.64

Due January 8, 2019

2018: $ 3,096.86
5.16% increase
 

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2019 MF
$1,203.22 Operating Assessment
$300.00 Replacement Reserves
$62.09 Estimated Real Estate Tax
= $1,565.31 total

This is compared to a 2018 MF of $1,543.15.

Total increase is $22.16 or 1.4%.

New member here. Very interesting reading your info for WKV Plat+

I also have a 2 bedroom lockoff but my MF for 2019 is $1503.22 and increase of $18.08 from 2018 ($1485.12) and increase of 1.2%.

How do we both have Plat+ weeks (at least according do your info) and we are paying different amounts? **EDIT** never mind :) just realized you broke out your $300 replacement reserves. That amount isn't broken out on my bill. I wonder why?

Also as a new Vistana member, what the heck is the $145 Membership Fee?

Full details: Western Kierland Villas
2019 MF: $1503.22
2019 Tax: $62.09
2019 Membership fee: $145.00
2019 Total: $1710.31
 
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Also as a new Vistana member, what the heck is the $145 Membership Fee?
That is your fee to be in the Vistana Signature Network and be able to use StarOptions.
 

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2019 fees $1001.89 one week
 

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1. Westin Mission Hills 148,100 (EOY)
$673.54 Vacation Ownership Assessment (2018 = $672.87)
$98.10 Condo Common Assessment (2018 = $90.10)
$113.07 Master Association Assessment (2018 = $104.58)

2. Westin Desert Willow 148,100 (EOY)
$642.20 Operating Assessment (2018 = $621.32)
$169.64 Replacement Reserves (2018 = $169.65)
$64.64 Real Estate Tax Estimate (2018 = $53.95)
$145.00 VSN Membership Fee

3. Westin Desert Willow 148,100 (EOY)
$642.20 Operating Assessment
$169.65 Replacement Reserves
$64.63 Real Estate Tax Estimate
$50.00 VSN Membership Fee (2nd Week)
 

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Sheraton Vistana 2 bedroom Lakes.
2019 fees $1001.89 one week

Just a question, because my Annual- Float 1-52 week Sheraton Vistana 2 bedroom Lakes 2019 fees are $1,020.72. I did not pay the ARDA ROC PAC of $5.00.
I am just trying to figure out the difference that's all.
 

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2019 Base Fee: $735.62
2019 Points Assessment (44,000): $511.23
SubTotal: #1246.85

2019 VSN fee: $145

Total: 1391.85

Question to the group: I do not see a ARDA ROC PAC fee listed on my statement. Is it buried in the fees or not included at all. The online payment page indicates that the total includes it and I do not wish to pay it but do not see it listed in order to exclude.

Thanks all!
 
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