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Why go to HGVC on the big island at all?

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I am a diver and there is much better scuba diving on BI too. I love the volcano and the scenery and the fact that you can go to a more remote beach and sometimes have it to yourself.
It's nice to hear that there is good SCUBA diving on the Big Island, I wasn't expecting much. Other than the nite Manta Ray SCUBA dive, what do you recommend? Any good shark dives?
 

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Because the Big Island is the newest island, and still growing, it has a lot of areas where the coastline is primarily lava rock, which hasn't broken down into sand yet, which results in far superior water clarity.
 
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Why would anyone want to travel to HGVC on the big island? You have a volcano to visit on the big island, but what else can you do on the big island that you can not do on Oahu? If there are activities that you can do on Oahu or the big island, I assume close to Waikoloa or Kings Land or Bay Club, which are better / more enjoyable for what reasons on the big island? I assume less people over all, so more of a private vacation. If you like to golf perhaps, but if you are a beach goer, which one is closest to the beach (I assume Waikoloa because it is called beach resort - yet listed as a 15 minute walk on the website, ouch). Anyway, want to visit the big island some time, but just am having a hard time figuring out why if you have to 1. take a second flight and 2. have a long walk to the beach and or have to take a shuttle on a schedule every time you want to go to the beach.

None of the HGVC resorts are near the ocean. Only the Hilton hotel is oceanfront (not beachfront) - see map below.

If your preference is a beachfront resort then the Hilton timeshares on the Big Island is not what you want to do on a regular basis but it's definitely worth a visit. For our last two visits to the Big Island, we extended our Oahu & Maui stays with a few nights on the Big Island which works out best for us.

Similiar to HHV, Hilton Waikoloa Village is a destination resort - http://www.hiltonwaikoloavillage.com/
The Hilton Hawaiian Village pools and lagoon on Oahu are small in comparison to what is available at Kings land and Hilton Waikoloa Village.
See my 2013 thread
2013 Hilton Waikoloa Village Pools & Lagoon photos - http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194066
2013 HGVC Kings' Land photos - http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194310

Hilton has a complimentary shuttle service that will take you to Hilton Waikoloa Village Resort and the two area shops (Queens' MarketPlace and Kings' Shops). The shuttle service reminds me of being on property at DisneyWorld or Atlantis where you have the option of using the shuttle service to get you around the immediate area.

Here's the link to the Waikoloa Beach Resort Area. It covers dining, shopping and local activities - http://waikoloabeachresort.com/index.php/
Hilton Waikoloa Village Activities Calendar - http://www.hiltonwaikoloavillage.com/assets/files/resort-activities/ActivityCalendar.pdf
HGVC Kings' Land Activites Calendar - http://www.stayhgv.com/Hawaii/KingsLand/doc/KOAKLguide.jpeg

Websites for Big Island Activities
Hilton Waikoloa Village Resort offers an interactive map with locations of beaches and sites to see - http://www.hiltonwaikoloavillage.com/hawaii-island-guide/interactive-island-map
Big Island by Neighborhood from the official Tourism website - http://www.gohawaii.com/en/big-island/regions-neighborhoods/
Tripadvisor's Top Things to Do in Island of Hawaii - http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g29217-Activities-Island_of_Hawaii_Hawaii.html

There are lots of old threads on TUG on where to stay and what to see & do.
Here are some examples:
What to do/where to stay in Big Island for 3 days - http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204651
HGVC Resort comparison - http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1536435&postcount=6
Renting a car and exploring - http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206943
Looking for suggestions on Big Island itinerary and HGVC Waikoloa - http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165986
Big Island: Volcano House or Kilahuea Lodge? - http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221057

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Best Shore Dive ever is in a place right near Place of Refuge National park. South of Kona. There is a place called TWO STEP, just google it for directions. Best and easiest shore dive in the US in my opinion. Some Parking available but busy at times. We have done shore dives at several other locations. Get a map from the local dive shop or google dive sites online.

Here is one such site.
http://www.tropicalsnorkeling.com/snorkeling-two-steps.html

We have also done some dives with operators out of the Marina in Kona.

See some sharks now and then, but not a lot.

Manta Dive is awesome.

We always get a car in Big Island, try to get 4 WD and SUV to get to more remote beaches and haul gear.
 
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Best Shore Dive ever is in a place right near Place of Refuge National park. ...

Here is one such site.
http://www.tropicalsnorkeling.com/snorkeling-two-steps.html
...
Thanks Sandy.

Started google searching for SCUBA Dive Master/shops in the areas that you mentioned. Looks promising. :D

Another reason to get off the beaches at Waikiki and go to the Big Island. ;)

Here's another:

http://www.bigislanddivers.com/MantaDive.html

http://www.mantaraydiveshawaii.com/adventures/manta-rays-dive-snorkel/


But, I have to mention that we luv going to the Kona Brewing Company, to eat at the outdoors restaurant (kalua pork) and drink the Koko Brown Ale/beer, which you can't find on Waikiki Beach.

http://konabrewingco.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files/2015/09/KON_2015-Menu-Update_Kona-Food_Web.pdf
 
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But, I have to mention that we luv going to the Kona Brewing Company, to eat at the outdoors restaurant (kalua pork) and drink the Koko Brown Ale/beer, which you can't find on Waikiki Beach.

http://konabrewingco.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files/2015/09/KON_2015-Menu-Update_Kona-Food_Web.pdf

We loved the Kona Brewing company too. Ate there twice during our last stay
My 2013 tripadvisor review with photos - link

Try the Yardhouse, the next time you're in Waikiki ;) (indoor/outdoor seating, pork and Koko Brown) - http://www.yardhouse.com/locations/hi/honolulu/waikiki-waikiki-beach-walk/8316
 
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Personally I prefer not to stay in either HGVC location. The one on the Big Island is way out in the middle of nowhere and the one on Waikiki is in the middle of everything. (Disclaimer: we relax on vacation but don't go and just sit around on the beach)

When we go to the BI Island we rent a condo on the South side of Kona as it is closer to the things we like to do and and when on Oahu we went a condo/duplex on the North Shore.

We've stayed on Waikiki a few times and it is fun for a couple of days but I wouldn't want my whole vacation there.

Love both places and would go back to both but wouldn't stay at either HGVC.
 

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Stayed at HHV once, too crowded, busy, noisy and not the atmosphere I was looking for. We followed that up with the Big Island at King's Land and Bay Club for a week each and absolutely loved it. The resorts, rooms, balconies, amenities, pools and nearby beaches were all superior.

To each their own I guess, but I would not return to Oahu to stay at a HGVC timeshare, but I would go to stay at Ko Olina or the North Shore and be an extra in Hawaii 5-0 if asked. :)
 

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Just adding to your list, since I live there.

What can you do on the BI that you can't on Oahu?

See the big telescopes.

See black sand and green sand beaches.

Drive up a mountain along fragrant redwood trees.

See cows placidly grazing in paradise.

Be alone on a nice beach.

Enjoy volcanically heated natural pools.

See where Kona coffee is actually grown.

And, finally, and most important to me. . .

Go on Hawaiin time. . . Just let the peace sink in. . .

*Drive from the beach to 14k elevation, to the top of Mauna Kea, while still wearing your swimming clothes, to be higher then all of the clouds, the closest to heaven and find peace and tranquility like you've experienced before. And yes... It does snow there at times.

*Drive to Ka Lae in Kau, which is the southern most point of the Big Idland, State of Hawaii and all of the 50 US states. And once there, observe the eerie currents of the ocean that direct the waters, allowing a still and most times, motionless calm between them.

*Visit Waipio valley the largest windward valley on the windward side of the island. After all, it's been filmed in many movies so you know it's worth seeing.

*Hike into a volcano crater, Kilauea Iki and listen and see some of our indigenous birds of our island, soon to be extinct.

*Swim with Manta rays in Keauhou.

* Visit Pahoa town, the town that was almost taken by Pele (Our Fire Goddess, Deity), "lava" in 2014/2015. No exaggeration here... The governor declared an emergency proclamation, because Pele, "the lava flow", if continued on its track would have separated the town from the rest of the island, causing what was about to be, the island within an island. Fortunately, the lava stopped. But only after it took 1 home, created some amazing landscaping to the transfer station, it took a gravesite, and stopped a few hundred feet from a home and the main road leading into the town. The Ariel view of the flow shows the destruction and miracle of this little town. And.... The hardened lava "pahoehoe" that you would see is literally less then 2 years old. Talk about a brand new new land.

*If on the Big Island, you canexperience the tourist trap called Waikoloa, head up to Kohala mountains and see the island of Maui on a clear day, with the most beautiful breeze and lush acres of farmland, head down to Waimea and be amazed with how the land is divided by a dry desert like environment on one side then lush greenery on the other side. Waimea is our Paniolo "Cowboy" country town where the air is nippy, chilly and very country inspired, then drive along the Hamakua coast and experience the 3 horseshoes that lead to Akaka Falls then into Hilo. Once in Hilo, visit the Tsunami visitor center and see/listen to the stories of the 1946 April fools day Tsunami that devastated that very town. From Hilo you could drive through the Panaewa rain forest to Pahoa, then down to Kalapana and see how that little town has grown since it was taken from Pele in 1990. From Kalapana head out of Pahoa, up to Volcano and experience the coldest temperatures on the island, not including Mauna Kea, and beautiful forests that surround our active volcano. After leaving Volcano head down to Ka'u to see Punalu'u (The black sand beach) then to Papakolea (The green sand beach) prepare to walk a few miles to get there, then drive to Captain Cook and visit Pu'uhonua (The City of refuge), then head into Kailua Kona then Back to Waikoloa if you're staying there.

** I highly suggest that you never ever take any lava rocks from the island back home with you. But you can do your own research.

* A lot to see and experience. And if you're gifted with a 6th sense... intuitive, a medium, psychic etc... or have any other spiritual gifts, you're in for a much deeper and richer experience.
 

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It's nice to hear that there is good SCUBA diving on the Big Island, I wasn't expecting much. Other than the nite Manta Ray SCUBA dive, what do you recommend? Any good shark dives?

SCUBA diving off the the Kona coast is world class, though definitely not as well developed in terms of tourism as Cozumel or Grand Cayman. The water clarity is almost always 75-100+ foot visibility due to the fact that the island is young volcanic rock (no soil to spoil visibility), and the Kona side is a desert (no rainfall to create runoff). Aside the from Manta Dive which is really phenomenal, the boat diving up and down the Kona coast is all good. Lava tunnels and swim throughs are just about everywhere. I had the good fortune to come face to face with a huge great hammerhead on my second Kona dive in 60 feet of water off a lava wall, and saw a good size octopus on the same dive. Lots of turtles (not as many as Oahu though). Tiger sharks are somewhat common too, though I haven't seen one yet. I prefer some of the north side sites (Horseshoe reef!) but they are all excellent. Unfortunately all require a boat AFAIK.

Back to the topic at hand though, I think it can be summed up pretty easily... Go to Oahu if you want a well-developed beach resort experience with the amenities of a big city with no driving required, and/or want to go for the military history. Go to Oahu if you prefer cruise ship style vacations. Go to the BI, however, if you want your vacation to be an outdoors experience of a lifetime, like adventure travel and eco-tourism, like to explore off the beaten path places, and are willing to drive yourself. The BI is not for everyone, and those looking for a simple lay out on the beach and shop for souvenirs vacation will be disappointed with the BI.

One other comment is that I would recommend folks considering a BI vacation to not spend a lot of time (at least on the first trip) in the city of Kona, or in Waikoloa itself, except for dining. Kona is not much more than a tourist city, akin to a lot of cruise ship ports in the Caribbean; and Waikoloa is a Hilton/Marriott created "resort" that gets old pretty quickly though it has a few charms (the recreated fish ponds and the snorkeling lagoon at the Marriott are great for kids). As others have mentioned in more detail, the spirit of BI is found elsewhere (under the sea, active volcanoes, hiking the waterfalls, one of a kind beaches like the Green Sand beach that require hiking, small towns and artisan shops, an entire mountainside filled with independent coffee roasters and growers, the rainforest with more waterfalls than you can fit in a guidebook, crater drive, etc.).
 

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So many vacationers, including timeshare owners always return to the same
island. Sort of like Salmon or Whales. Ha Ha

Do to the length of time and cost of airfare, Hawaii is usually a 2 week vacation
and usually I try for two islands or different sides of the same island.

I don't mind if some people only like vanilla, I like all the islands and try to rotate my visits between them.

Waikoloa is the number one timeshare location if you trade. Once there you are free to do some many activities at different locations. Compare a day at the Mona Kea, to Waikiki quite different so I prefer to do both.

I do know the number one attraction worldwide of Waikiki, and that is by far
Hawaii 5-0. So I am thankful that so many people focus on Waikiki and
I experience a lot less traffic elsewhere.
 

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*Drive from the beach to 14k elevation, to the top of Mauna Kea, while still wearing your swimming clothes, to be higher then all of the clouds, the closest to heaven and find peace and tranquility like you've experienced before. And yes... It does snow there at times.

*Drive to Ka Lae in Kau, which is the southern most point of the Big Idland, State of Hawaii and all of the 50 US states. And once there, observe the eerie currents of the ocean that direct the waters, allowing a still and most times, motionless calm between them.

*Visit Waipio valley the largest windward valley on the windward side of the island. After all, it's been filmed in many movies so you know it's worth seeing.

*Hike into a volcano crater, Kilauea Iki and listen and see some of our indigenous birds of our island, soon to be extinct.

*Swim with Manta rays in Keauhou.

* Visit Pahoa town, the town that was almost taken by Pele (Our Fire Goddess, Deity), "lava" in 2014/2015. No exaggeration here... The governor declared an emergency proclamation, because Pele, "the lava flow", if continued on its track would have separated the town from the rest of the island, causing what was about to be, the island within an island. Fortunately, the lava stopped. But only after it took 1 home, created some amazing landscaping to the transfer station, it took a gravesite, and stopped a few hundred feet from a home and the main road leading into the town. The Ariel view of the flow shows the destruction and miracle of this little town. And.... The hardened lava "pahoehoe" that you would see is literally less then 2 years old. Talk about a brand new new land.

*If on the Big Island, you canexperience the tourist trap called Waikoloa, head up to Kohala mountains and see the island of Maui on a clear day, with the most beautiful breeze and lush acres of farmland, head down to Waimea and be amazed with how the land is divided by a dry desert like environment on one side then lush greenery on the other side. Waimea is our Paniolo "Cowboy" country town where the air is nippy, chilly and very country inspired, then drive along the Hamakua coast and experience the 3 horseshoes that lead to Akaka Falls then into Hilo. Once in Hilo, visit the Tsunami visitor center and see/listen to the stories of the 1946 April fools day Tsunami that devastated that very town. From Hilo you could drive through the Panaewa rain forest to Pahoa, then down to Kalapana and see how that little town has grown since it was taken from Pele in 1990. From Kalapana head out of Pahoa, up to Volcano and experience the coldest temperatures on the island, not including Mauna Kea, and beautiful forests that surround our active volcano. After leaving Volcano head down to Ka'u to see Punalu'u (The black sand beach) then to Papakolea (The green sand beach) prepare to walk a few miles to get there, then drive to Captain Cook and visit Pu'uhonua (The City of refuge), then head into Kailua Kona then Back to Waikoloa if you're staying there.

** I highly suggest that you never ever take any lava rocks from the island back home with you. But you can do your own research.

* A lot to see and experience. And if you're gifted with a 6th sense... intuitive, a medium, psychic etc... or have any other spiritual gifts, you're in for a much deeper and richer experience.

Thank you for your kind words. There are things to see and do that we both haven't mentioned. mahalo.
 

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If your ever in Las Vegas, we have the Yard House in 3 locations. Big selection of beer. Very popular place with long waiting lines.

We were there about a month ago, staying close to the Linq. We loved the Yard House there...

Onto the main topic:

We just got back from New Orleans yesterday. Now, why would one go to New Orleans if they could go to New York? Well, we were in New York a couple of weeks before that. Now, we could have gone to New Orleans that weekend as well. But we didn't. We went to New York.

To me, it's reasonable to ask questions like "what kinds of things can I do at XYZ." It's much more questionable (IMO) to ask "If I could go to ABC, why would I go to XYZ?"

I say, go to both at different times, and you'll have very different, possibly equally fun, experiences.

For us, we love Kona, and Waikoloa, because there is not that much to do in the immediate area. With trips to New York and to New Orleans for Jazz Fest, a trip to somewhere with not as much happening can be great.

Now, as someone above said, we did go to Kona Brewing Company twice on a 3-night trip...but that's essential :)

Cheers.
 

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*Drive to Ka Lae in Kau, which is the southern most point of the Big Idland, State of Hawaii and all of the 50 US states.

This is always a brain buster for me. I've been there and I saw the sign that says it is the most southern part of the U.S.. Key West also has a sign that says it is the most southern part of the U.S. Does anyone know which one actually is? :ponder:
 

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This is always a brain buster for me. I've been there and I saw the sign that says it is the most southern part of the U.S.. Key West also has a sign that says it is the most southern part of the U.S. Does anyone know which one actually is? :ponder:

If i recall correctly the sign in Key West adds a disclaimer of southern most part of the "continental U.S"..... .
 

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If i recall correctly the sign in Key West adds a disclaimer of southern most part of the "continental U.S"..... .
Aha! My mind is no longer blown. I also just found this:
"Update - April 2007: Jacob further clarifies that Key West can only claim to be the southernmost point in the continental US. The big island of Hawaii is farther south. - See more at: http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11310#sthash.tOENWYmI.dpuf"
 

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This is always a brain buster for me. I've been there and I saw the sign that says it is the most southern part of the U.S.. Key West also has a sign that says it is the most southern part of the U.S. Does anyone know which one actually is? :ponder:

Did you know Reno, NV is farther West than San Diego?
 

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More stuff to do....

Zipline over waterfalls

Night snorkel with manta rays

Awesome sunset view from Costco parking lot And it's free
 
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