arlene22
TUG Member
Yes, but note that it will be a rare situation where anyone collects. That's only for involuntary bumps. Only about one in every 9,000 (!) passengers in the U.S. is involuntarily bumped.
Airlines are still free to set their own compensation offers when they ask for volunteers to take later flights due to overbooking.
Perhaps in a very few cases. Each airline has its own rules as to how much compensation (R/T ticket, $ vouchers, cash, etc.) the gate agent can offer, depending on the circumstances. Even though overbooking at departure time is common, it's rare that offers under those existing airline compensation guidelines don't generate enough volunteers to stay behind.Do you think this new rule will cause the airlines to "sweeten the pot" for voluntary bumps?
However, you might consider writing to the airline, explaining (politely) what happened and state that you now understand that you should have been offered cash compensation. (That's not technically correct, as you can see from the quoted text.) Ask for payment (state how much you are entitled to) and offer to return the R/T voucher.Airlines may offer free transportation on future flights in place of a check for denied boarding compensation. However, if you are bumped involuntarily you have the right to insist on a check if that is your preference. Once you cash the check (or accept the free flight), you will probably lose the right to demand more money from the airline later on.
I'm the equivalent to 1K/1P on another Star Alliance carrier and my experience is that I go to the head of the line of 'volunteers.'The bad thing about being a 1K/1P is I've never been selected for any sort of bump, even when I've volunteered. Waa... Pat
I think it may well change something. Airlines don't want the Involuntary stats, there are no stats for voluntary, they're usually ecstatic when I volunteer and my free RT (if used wisely) is worth more than twice what the Involuntary comp was currently.Maybe I'm in the minority who thinks that voluntary bump compensation will increase. Currently, in an oversold situation, worst case an airline should have to pay is $400 for an involuntary bump. As pointed out, that's probably not an airlines first choice (not a good PR move), so they can afford to sweeten that a little to make it voluntary. Why would they NOT offer $600-$700 for a voluntary bump, if the alternative is paying $800 for involuntarily?
One possible change I haven't seen mentioned is flight availability, and ticket availability. Currently, an airline might not have a problem overselling a flight, since the potential penalty (bump compensation) isn't that that low. Now that it's doubling, I have to think airlines won't be nearly as quick to overbook. If I was an airline, I'm not sure I'd risk selling a $3/4/$500 ticket in an oversold condition, if it might cost me $800 to bump a person.
The other obvious issue is, "Where will this larger compensation come from?" The answer is us - airlines will one way or another have to charge more to cover the extra cost.
Jeff
..I think it may well change something. Airlines don't want the Involuntary stats, there are no stats for voluntary, they're usually ecstatic when I volunteer and my free RT (if used wisely) is worth more than twice what the Involuntary comp was currently.
While you are right, Involuntary benefits such as free RT (with the frequent flier bucket inventory) essentially costs the airline 'nothing,' there will never be requirements for cash for Involuntary, it's not regulated.That's another big difference between involuntary and voluntary. Voluntary compensation is often 'airline money': a voucher either good for one R/T, or else some amount of money useable to buy future tickets (ie. 'Delta dollars'). Besides restrictions that make a number of them go unused (costing the airline nothing), as shown with FF award analysis, the actual incremental cost to transport an additional passenger is very little - I've heard airlines list the 'cost' of a FF seat at maybe $25-$30.
On the other hand, involuntary bump compensation I think needs to be paid out in cash. NO service company likes to have to give actual cash back to customers, they'd always like to keep it, and provide 'credit' for future travel.
Jeff
In fact, it is regulated. As quoted from the DOT publication in one of my posts above, passengers can insist on being paid money rather than accepting a ticket voucher or so-called airline dollars for an involuntary bump. The passenger's right to get that money is part of both the old and the new regulations....there will never be requirements for cash for Involuntary, it's not regulated.
Well, I guess I'll have to be more persuasiveI'm the equivalent to 1K/1P on another Star Alliance carrier and my experience is that I go to the head of the line of 'volunteers.'
I think it may well change something. Airlines don't want the Involuntary stats, there are no stats for voluntary, they're usually ecstatic when I volunteer and my free RT (if used wisely) is worth more than twice what the Involuntary comp was currently.