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Looking to go there in 2020. For those of you who have been is it worth it to spend the points to get the 3 BR presidential or save some points to stay in the 3 BR deluxe. Is the deluxe nice as well and what's the big difference between the 2.
 

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As with many things at Smuggs, this is way too complicated to answer well.

Smuggs has 3BR, 3BR Deluxe, 3BR Plus, and 3BR Presidential units but it also has all these villages, and units that have the same name aren't the same thing in all the villages. To further compound the difficulty, the web site has no floor plans -- NONE. So, you're stuck with opening Unit Details in each class unit in each village to look at Unit Features. Then, try to figure out what meets your requirements.

Having said all that, my wife and I spent a week in a 3BR Deluxe unit in Sycamores and it was absolutely great (except for being a short drive up the hill from the main village). A Presidential unit would have had a third bath and an additional 100 or so square feet, not important to us but perhaps important to a large family. As is often the case, max occupancy is less in Presidential units.
 
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We stayed in a two bedroom at the Birch last year. The resort is nice but the configuration of our unit was strange. The TV in the living room had a big amore that blocked the sides so you could only see it from one chair.
The master bedroom was very nice but the second bedroom had the weirdest bunk beds I ever saw. There was a single bunk up top and a full bed under but, if you slept in the bottom you would bump your head as it was too close to the wall. We had guests for a couple of nights we let them have the master and we finagled the odd bunks by putting the pillows at the foot of the bed. One of us slept in the top bunk.
If we go again I’m going to ask for a two bedroom with no bunk beds. Or like you get a three bedroom.
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I was recently at Smugglers and they said we were in an "upgraded" 3dx unit at Sycamore. We asked what "upgraded" meant & they said we were in a unit that had been recently renovated.
Our unit configuration was: Master bedroom - king/attached bath. Bedroom 2 - queen. Bedroom 3 - four twin beds (no bunks). There was also a sofabed in the living room.
 

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If you can get a 3 bedroom deluxe in Aspens, Sycamore or Tamaracks, you're good to go. The Presidentials are- well- the Presidentials and a sure thing.
 

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We stayed in a two bedroom at the Birch last year. The resort is nice but the configuration of our unit was strange. The TV in the living room had a big amore that blocked the sides so you could only see it from one chair.
The master bedroom was very nice but the second bedroom had the weirdest bunk beds I ever saw. There was a single bunk up top and a full bed under but, if you slept in the bottom you would bump your head as it was too close to the wall. We had guests for a couple of nights we let them have the master and we finagled the odd bunks by putting the pillows at the foot of the bed. One of us slept in the top bunk.
If we go again I’m going to ask for a two bedroom with no bunk beds. Or like you get a three bedroom.
Silentg

The Birches are not "Deluxe"
 

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Finally...a subject that I am at least a little qualified to answer...:banana:.

Smuggs is our home resort and I have been going there for 30+ years and have stayed in every "village" and almost every building category...

As ChapJim says, it is a large resort that has been developed over many decades and with different ownership types (timeshare (weeks), whole ownership, QuarterShare (13 weeks) and more). However...
To further compound the difficulty, the web site has no floor plans -- NONE.

The Wyndham website does not show any floor plans, but the Smuggs website does: https://www.smuggs.com/pages/winter/lodging/index.php

Once you have an idea of where you'll be staying ("village") and what unit type, you can click on the link for that particular unit and WYSI(P)WYG (What You See Is (Probably) What You'll Get).

Because Smuggs is a family resort, most "Deluxe" 2 bedrooms will have a Queen bed and two (2) twin beds in the second bedroom and most "Deluxe" 3 bedrooms will have four (4) twin beds in the third bedroom. The Presidentials do NOT have that arrangement (only King and Queen beds, no twins).

My family loves going to Smuggs...so much to do and we love being outdoors (and especially hiking). I hope you enjoy your stay...

Cheers!
 

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The Birches are not "Deluxe"
Our Birches unit is part of what prompted us to convert to Wyndham points, and we have not regretted it for one minute...that was indeed a strange unit.

Well located, good for two (2) adults and two (2) pre-teen kids, but that's about it...

Cheers!
 

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Finally...a subject that I am at least a little qualified to answer...:banana:.

Smuggs is our home resort and I have been going there for 30+ years and have stayed in every "village" and almost every building category...

As ChapJim says, it is a large resort that has been developed over many decades and with different ownership types (timeshare (weeks), whole ownership, QuarterShare (13 weeks) and more). However...


The Wyndham website does not show any floor plans, but the Smuggs website does: https://www.smuggs.com/pages/winter/lodging/index.php

Once you have an idea of where you'll be staying ("village") and what unit type, you can click on the link for that particular unit and WYSI(P)WYG (What You See Is (Probably) What You'll Get).

Because Smuggs is a family resort, most "Deluxe" 2 bedrooms will have a Queen bed and two (2) twin beds in the second bedroom and most "Deluxe" 3 bedrooms will have four (4) twin beds in the third bedroom. The Presidentials do NOT have that arrangement (only King and Queen beds, no twins).

My family loves going to Smuggs...so much to do and we love being outdoors (and especially hiking). I hope you enjoy your stay...

Cheers!

Actually in typical Wyndham fashion, while the myclubwyndham Owner website does NOT show any floorplans, the public clubwyndham website DOES. Explain that one to me please? :)

https://www.clubwyndham.com/cw/resorts/wvr-smugglers-notch-vermont.page

Click on the Suites option from the link above and you will see at least a few floor plans.
 

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Our Birches unit is part of what prompted us to convert to Wyndham points, and we have not regretted it for one minute...that was indeed a strange unit.

Well located, good for two (2) adults and two (2) pre-teen kids, but that's about it...

Cheers!

When you converted I'm assuming this counted as developer points for you? This was one of the possible options I was hoping to still be able to leverage to get to permanent VIPP - finding a resale SN weeks based contract and getting it converted over to points with developer credit, but it doesn't seem as if this is still possible nowadays. :(
 

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Looking at the floor plans on Smugglers website. I kinda like the 3 BR Owls and Kestrels with the 4 season room and covered porch off the Master over the 3 BR presidential rooms.

I noticed the Tamaracks dont have the 4 season room.

Are these 3 BR deluxes that have these or do the suites have these as well. The 4 season rooms. I am more interested in the Owls or Kestrels over the Tamaracks. Just going off floor plans.
 

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Our Birches unit is part of what prompted us to convert to Wyndham points, and we have not regretted it for one minute...that was indeed a strange unit.

Well located, good for two (2) adults and two (2) pre-teen kids, but that's about it...

Cheers!

Birches are very nice. I meant that I do not think Smuggs/Wyndham considers them as part of the so called "Deluxe" units.
 

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Looking at the floor plans on Smugglers website. I kinda like the 3 BR Owls and Kestrels with the 4 season room and covered porch off the Master over the 3 BR presidential rooms.

I noticed the Tamaracks dont have the 4 season room.

Are these 3 BR deluxes that have these or do the suites have these as well. The 4 season rooms. I am more interested in the Owls or Kestrels over the Tamaracks. Just going off floor plans.

The Owls and Kestrels are a "class" up from Tamaracks or other "deluxe" units.

That said, the Tamaracks are very nice and they have balconies.
 
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