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Elite Night Credit on Vistana Stays

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Per the leaked new T&C of the merged SPG and MR programs. It looks like nights stayed at Vistana properties will start counting toward Elite Night credit. I wonder, will this extend to owner stays?

7.2 Vistana Signature Experiences
7.2.a Vistana Signature Experiences Additional Information.

7.2.b Vistana Participating Properties. Due to the nature of Vistana properties, special conditions apply to their participation in the Loyalty Program as follows:

i. Members will earn Elite Night Credit for a Qualifying Stay at Vistana properties.

ii. Members will earn Points or Miles for all Qualifying Charges at Vistana properties.

iii. Eligible Loyalty Program Members may also earn Points or Miles through Rewarding EventsSM when they book and hold qualifying Events at Vistana properties.

iii. Members do not receive the following benefits (as defined in Section 4) at Vistana properties: Complimentary Enhanced Room Upgrades, late checkout, Suite Night Awards, Guaranteed Room Type, 48-Hour Guaranteed Availability, or Your24.

iv. Free Night Awards at Vistana properties must be booked at least one (1) day in advance of arrival. Vistana properties either do not participate or do not fully participate in the “No Blackout Dates” benefit at this time.

https://pastebin.com/BKQxCSNC
 

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Per the leaked new T&C of the merged SPG and MR programs. It looks like nights stayed at Vistana properties will start counting toward Elite Night credit. I wonder, will this extend to owner stays?

7.2 Vistana Signature Experiences
7.2.a Vistana Signature Experiences Additional Information.

7.2.b Vistana Participating Properties. Due to the nature of Vistana properties, special conditions apply to their participation in the Loyalty Program as follows:

i. Members will earn Elite Night Credit for a Qualifying Stay at Vistana properties.

ii. Members will earn Points or Miles for all Qualifying Charges at Vistana properties.

iii. Eligible Loyalty Program Members may also earn Points or Miles through Rewarding EventsSM when they book and hold qualifying Events at Vistana properties.

iii. Members do not receive the following benefits (as defined in Section 4) at Vistana properties: Complimentary Enhanced Room Upgrades, late checkout, Suite Night Awards, Guaranteed Room Type, 48-Hour Guaranteed Availability, or Your24.

iv. Free Night Awards at Vistana properties must be booked at least one (1) day in advance of arrival. Vistana properties either do not participate or do not fully participate in the “No Blackout Dates” benefit at this time.

https://pastebin.com/BKQxCSNC

When I read this I was concerned because the definition of "Qualifying Stay" discusses paying a "Qualifying Rate". However, that same language (7.2.b.i.) is also in the section for MVC members and MVC members have been earning elite night credits for their stays.

I'm happy!!!!
 

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When in August does this take effect?? I assume the 18th, the same date as the points merger???
 

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oh...this could affect the justification for the MR/SPG credit cards, right? It would make things a bunch easier with an extra xx nights... from ownership stays

edited: It would be very nice if all our timeshare stays counted as elite nites.......that would be 7 nites (14 for lock-off?) of extra credit.

sorry for the confusing first post.
 
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This would be a huge benefit add (at little/no cost to Marriott). Hopefully someone with an upcoming owner stay can confirm if this is indeed the case (and based on the IT woes of the past few days, I might not expect this work right away even if that is indeed their intent).
 

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Seems to be official. From an email I received today from Vistana;

For the first time ever, Owners will now earn credit on their ownership stays toward higher membership tiers in the new loyalty program (Platinum Elite, Lifetime, etc.).
 

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Seems to be official. From an email I received today from Vistana;

For the first time ever, Owners will now earn credit on their ownership stays toward higher membership tiers in the new loyalty program (Platinum Elite, Lifetime, etc.).

I just saw the same email. Great news!
 

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What does this mean for resale owners?
 

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Just read the email we received. This is great news! We usually stay 10 or 11 nights a couple of times per year.
 

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What does this mean for resale owners?
Nothing. Should get same benefit as direct purchases.

Dioxide did you mean to say that voluntary resale owners will not get the night credits?
That's how I interpreted the email because it began with "As a benefit of membership within the Vistana Signature Network (VSN).."
So my take is that mandatory resale owners who have to be in VSN with star options will get the nightly credits, as well as direct(developer) purchase owners.
But voluntary resale owners likely not :(

Did anyone with just a voluntary resale unit get the email?

Even with the TS night credit stays and the 15 nights from the Starwood Amex, DH or I would earn Gold Elite maybe half of the time.
But we get Gold Elite anyway by virtue of the TS purchase.
No way could we get 50 night credits a year, unless it was all additive to the Gold Elite :D...wishful thinking!
 

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Dioxide did you mean to say that voluntary resale owners will not get the night credits?
That's how I interpreted the email because it began with "As a benefit of membership within the Vistana Signature Network (VSN).."
So my take is that mandatory resale owners who have to be in VSN with star options will get the nightly credits, as well as direct(developer) purchase owners.
But voluntary resale owners likely not :(

Did anyone with just a voluntary resale unit get the email?

Even with the TS night credit stays and the 15 nights from the Starwood Amex, DH or I would earn Gold Elite maybe half of the time.
But we get Gold Elite anyway by virtue of the TS purchase.
No way could we get 50 night credits a year, unless it was all additive to the Gold Elite :D...wishful thinking!
We only own mandatory. However the first paragraph is the only part that mentions VSN. The actual bullet about elite night credit only reference "ownership stays". I suspect that should really apply to everyone. I also don't really see how they will be able to distinguish this at the reservation level. With Marriott, people often get credit for II exchanges by simply adding their MR number to the reservation, either ahead of time or at checkin. I suspect it will all work the same with Sheraton and Vistana Vacation Club properties.
 

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Does 1 night in a 2 bdrm condo count the same as a night in a studio?
 

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We only own mandatory. However only the first paragraph is the only part that mentions VSN. The actual bullet about elite night credit only reference "ownership stays". I suspect that should really apply to everyone. I also don't really see how they will be able to distinguish this at the reservation level. With Marriott, people often get credit for II exchanges by simply adding their MR number to the reservation, either ahead of time or at checkin. I suspect it will all work the same with Sheraton and Vistana Vacation Club properties.

But the resorts do distinguish now between the different types of reservations when making unit assignments.
They know who are the owners vs the star option exchanges vs the II/RCI exchanges vs cash hotel stays.
So maybe voluntary owners staying at their own home resort should get nightly credit. But if they exchange in external trading system, then they don't ??

I think Marriott has a different agreement-arrangement with II on exchanges than Vistana, for owners who are not in the DC.
Would be really nice to get nightly credit even when I put my units out for II exchange!
 

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But the resorts do distinguish now between the different types of reservations when making unit assignments.
They know who are the owners vs the star option exchanges vs the II/RCI exchanges vs cash hotel stays.
So maybe voluntary owners staying at their own home resort should get nightly credit. But if they exchange in external trading system, then they don't ??
Perhaps, but I am just going based off how MVC has done this for years. They haven't ever distinguished between ownership types or even exchange vs ownership stay. The properties will all be working off of the Marriott reservation system (if not now at least sometime in the future). So I expect it to work just the same.
 

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I agree, this is great news for those who own Vistana. I was always disappointed that SPG didn’t award stay nights for owners staying in Starwood/Vistana resorts. Add one for Marriott for applying a good policy for SPG members.

Best regards.

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I would think nights are nights, regardless of heads on beds, I.e. unit size. So if you like to go during low season and/or smaller units to stretch points, so much the better.
 

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I would think nights are nights, regardless of heads on beds, I.e. unit size. So if you like to go during low season and/or smaller units to stretch points, so much the better.


Yes I was just thinking the same thing -- if you took a boatload of star options and then used them to get 4 weeks at a low-season resort (e.g. plantation around January) then you could get a lot of Marriott stay credit
 

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I'm at a resort this week and will check my account next week to see if my stay was counted correctly.


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This might actually make up for taking away the 'gold' benefits.
 

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oh...this could affect the justification for the MR/SPG credit cards, right? It would make things a bunch easier with an extra xx nights... from ownership stays

edited: It would be very nice if all our timeshare stays counted as elite nites.......that would be 7 nites (14 for lock-off?) of extra credit.

sorry for the confusing first post.

I do like the idea of combining the stays with something like the Marriott Premier Plus. Might consider the card if I can stack the additional nights + Vistana stays.
 

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I do like the idea of combining the stays with something like the Marriott Premier Plus. Might consider the card if I can stack the additional nights + Vistana stays.

I read the terms of the Premier credit card, and there's only one 15 nite credit from any of the Marriott or Starwood Spg credit cards. Too bad they're not additive per card.
 
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Yes.... but 15 from the card plus timeshare stays
that makes the remaining nights much more doable.
Especially with locking-off
 

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Yes.... but 15 from the card plus timeshare stays
that makes the remaining nights much more doable.
Especially with locking-off

Yes to get to Gold, but Platinum is still quite a stretch unless you have 2 lockoffs. DH and I don't do any business travel. I think the old Marriott gold is the new Platinum.
 
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