celica7101
TUG Member
- Joined
- Aug 5, 2018
- Messages
- 211
- Reaction score
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- Points
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- Resorts Owned
- WKORV/N, Westin Nanea, Westin Flex
Hi there,
First time poster here. I just took a trip to Maui and stayed at WKORV and had a great time. Was looking for a hotel/villa resort with pools for the littles and close beach access (in addition to the condo-style unit). Historically, we've gone to Hawaii every other year with my wife since we've been married. Opted for this instead of an AirBNB due to the kind of pools (and number) that were available here. While there, my wife elected to get a free signup for listening to the timeshare spiel, and we went to the presentation being offered for Nanea. We took the tour, heard the lady out, and then opted to decline it (the first inventory manager was kind of a jerk).
After discussing it a bit afterwards, I had some second thoughts on declining, and we went back to the office around 4:50PM, so most of the people in the sales office were gone. We started the paperwork on a EOY 2BR in Nanea (148,100 star options). However, like many, I suspect, I hadn't done quite enough homework and now I'm well versed in mandatory vs. voluntary resorts after reading many of the threads here on TUG.
So now I'm in a bit of an interesting position as they're preparing the paperwork for a mail-out on Monday. I can elect to decline without any penalties (or even needing to get a refund!) since they haven't actually charged my credit card for the new money deposit. I'd need to send in my CC info and sign all of the paperwork and mail/fax it back to them in order to complete the transaction and begin the rescission period/7-day-grace period. However, after doing said research, I'm debating whether or not it makes sense to instead try and pick up two gold-season units at Kierland to get an equivalent number of star options every year (instead of EOY) to be able to still stay at Nanea / WKORV / Princeville and other places. Plus the MF's are about half as much.
The things that are holding me back:
sign-up bonus (100k SPG points, 4 x 90k SPG points at $1875)
SPG conversion ability.
Does that 12-8 month window make a difference?
Since Nanea is voluntary, I'd have the ability to convert to SPG points if desired. I have little interest in trying to acquire elite status in Vistana at present, so if I bought resale, I wouldn't be able to convert to SPG points, though I suppose I could attempt a re-qual.
(Does anyone know if they are still selling developer units at Kierland in order to attempt a requal for a resale unit there?)
I realize that conversion is not usually a first-line option, but it's nice to have in my pocket. My family does a fair bit of traveling and it would be nice to have access to Marriott properties in addition to SPG ones when we're going to areas that are not well served by the 19 VSE properties (which is a good amount of the time).
As far as the owner window for the home resort, I booked this trip to WKORV 3-4 months ago, so it feels like the availability should be there if I were to buy a Kierland trader unit and wanted to go to Hawaii.
So, to re-cap:
1) Any thoughts on the re-sale vs. developer unit dilemma? Obviously somewhat price sensitive here but willing to spend on the developer unit if the perks trade-off well.
2) Does the 12-8 month home-option window make a difference?
3) Since we didn't get the paperwork in writing cause it was so late (in the day), how many star points would the 2BR Nanea convert to? If WKORV is any indication, seems like 80k?
4) Do you have to buy another timeshare at the same property to support a re-qual?
First time poster here. I just took a trip to Maui and stayed at WKORV and had a great time. Was looking for a hotel/villa resort with pools for the littles and close beach access (in addition to the condo-style unit). Historically, we've gone to Hawaii every other year with my wife since we've been married. Opted for this instead of an AirBNB due to the kind of pools (and number) that were available here. While there, my wife elected to get a free signup for listening to the timeshare spiel, and we went to the presentation being offered for Nanea. We took the tour, heard the lady out, and then opted to decline it (the first inventory manager was kind of a jerk).
After discussing it a bit afterwards, I had some second thoughts on declining, and we went back to the office around 4:50PM, so most of the people in the sales office were gone. We started the paperwork on a EOY 2BR in Nanea (148,100 star options). However, like many, I suspect, I hadn't done quite enough homework and now I'm well versed in mandatory vs. voluntary resorts after reading many of the threads here on TUG.
So now I'm in a bit of an interesting position as they're preparing the paperwork for a mail-out on Monday. I can elect to decline without any penalties (or even needing to get a refund!) since they haven't actually charged my credit card for the new money deposit. I'd need to send in my CC info and sign all of the paperwork and mail/fax it back to them in order to complete the transaction and begin the rescission period/7-day-grace period. However, after doing said research, I'm debating whether or not it makes sense to instead try and pick up two gold-season units at Kierland to get an equivalent number of star options every year (instead of EOY) to be able to still stay at Nanea / WKORV / Princeville and other places. Plus the MF's are about half as much.
The things that are holding me back:
sign-up bonus (100k SPG points, 4 x 90k SPG points at $1875)
SPG conversion ability.
Does that 12-8 month window make a difference?
Since Nanea is voluntary, I'd have the ability to convert to SPG points if desired. I have little interest in trying to acquire elite status in Vistana at present, so if I bought resale, I wouldn't be able to convert to SPG points, though I suppose I could attempt a re-qual.
(Does anyone know if they are still selling developer units at Kierland in order to attempt a requal for a resale unit there?)
I realize that conversion is not usually a first-line option, but it's nice to have in my pocket. My family does a fair bit of traveling and it would be nice to have access to Marriott properties in addition to SPG ones when we're going to areas that are not well served by the 19 VSE properties (which is a good amount of the time).
As far as the owner window for the home resort, I booked this trip to WKORV 3-4 months ago, so it feels like the availability should be there if I were to buy a Kierland trader unit and wanted to go to Hawaii.
So, to re-cap:
1) Any thoughts on the re-sale vs. developer unit dilemma? Obviously somewhat price sensitive here but willing to spend on the developer unit if the perks trade-off well.
2) Does the 12-8 month home-option window make a difference?
3) Since we didn't get the paperwork in writing cause it was so late (in the day), how many star points would the 2BR Nanea convert to? If WKORV is any indication, seems like 80k?
4) Do you have to buy another timeshare at the same property to support a re-qual?