PigsDad
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In 2010, there were no bronze weeks at Flamingo (nor on 2017), but you are correct in that the color chart is super hard to read.
But the "new" chart (it's not really a chart to be honest) ...
Thanks for the 2015 chart...I didn't keep mine. Biggest differences are obviously the removal of the Club Intrawest resorts and the addition of the new locations in New York, DC, South Carolina and Hawaii. But the weeks for the resorts listed in both charts appear unchanged.
Without trying to overly nit-pick, I am not sure why you don't really consider it a chart. If you are referring to a chart in the nautical map sense, then you are correct. But the definition of chart in the Oxford English Dictionary also refers to a chart as a "sheet of tabulated information", which it certainly is. Perhaps American and British/Canadian definitions are different?
The tabulated thingy (ie: spreadsheet format) is what I consider a chart.
A page that lists "seasons" and the weeks below it with numbers (and you have to scroll through a bunch of different pages in the PDF for the 2018 Club rules) I don't really consider a chart. But it's probably symantics.
But I will admit the new method is much easier on the eyes. LOL!
Especially as I'm getting old and senile and probably need reading glasses (my Monovision is not quite to my liking, so I'll probably get my other eye fixed).
Hey hurnik, now I am really confused!?!
First, are we even referring to the same document? I am talking primarily about the "Club Affiliated Resort Seasons" chart, similar to the 2015 version attached to Post #26 by PigsDad. There is also the "Vacation Planning Calendar". You seem to be referring to the Club Rules document. Both the charts i am referring to are stand-alone documents on the website, so not sure why you have to scroll through a bunch of different pages? Also, both definitely qualify as charts.
As you say, it may just be semantics and we may have to just respectfully disagree. IMO your definition of a chart is too narrow...at least according to the dictionary as I understand it...no offence intended! To put it simply, a spreadsheet is always a chart, but a chart may not always be a spreadsheet.
A "spreadsheet" is a relatively modern word that generally refers to a tabular document that can be digitally manipulated on a computer. It is also technically a subset of the older, more general concept of a chart or ledger. A chart has a broader definition. It is any type of document that compiles information, whether numbers or other information, in a tabular format (i.e. in a column and row format). Funnily enough my 1964 edition of The Concise Oxford Dictionary does not even have the word "spreadsheet" in it (LOL)!!! That term would not show up in general usage for almost another 20 years.
So you are certainly welcome to use whatever term you choose, but don't say a chart is not a chart, just because it is not a numbers-orientated spreadsheet.
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The estoppel on our pending purchase at HGVC Sea World (from another broker) was issued on 12/18/2017, so our activation fee is listed as $560, and based on this, should be honored even though our closing/activation will take place in 2018.
I don’t know the answer...Hyatt increased the trading power of certain weeks thus decreasing the value of other weeks even though they kept their trading value the same. How is Hyatt’s deeds different that they could do it?
Yes meant now thet do not have enough points to trade into properties that their points would allow them to trade into before because some other weeks increased in point value.Hyatt increased the point value of some, mainly Key West, properties but did not decrease the point values of any properties. If by “decreasing the value of other weeks” you meant it was now harder to trade into those properties due to the higher point requirements, you are correct. But no properties saw their points go down.
Here's what I posted in 2014 for the TUG Advice page
Column Headings
Club Due (Domestic)
Club Due (International)
HGVC Changeable Reservation Fee (via Online)
HGVC Changeable Reservation Fee (via Phone)
Point Stretching Fee (via Online)
Point Stretching Fee (via Phone)
Guest Confirmation Fee
RCI Reservation Fee (via Online)
RCI Reservation Fee (via Phone)
. From time to time, Open Season windows may be expanded to maximize occupancy, promote select resorts or similar purposes .
OPEN SEASON
Notwithstanding the forgoing, the Club may permit persons who are not owners at “by Hilton Club properties” the opportunity to utilize Open Season rental rates to maximize occupancy levels at those properties for the benefit of both the Club and the respective properties.
Open Season rental reservations are available to Members for their personal use only. Check- in dates may be restricted Open Season rental rates are per night and must be paid in full at time of confirmation From time to time, Open Season windows may be expanded to maximize occupancy, promote select resorts or similar purposes .
Ah, correction...That’s what I already noticed last year with the trump property in Vegas. At least last year the open season was 90 days. Wonder which (if any) other resort has the expanded option.