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GTK that shift happens for some and here's to wishing that your major change is to your best benefit given the circumstances.

Modify status... 1 resolved, 1 settled (almost). 198+/- to go?

Do not know if the almost settled cast the proper implication. Resolved is better. Resolved can take may forms.

At least one likes settled and at least some others like resolved. See above posts.
 
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This was a useful and interesting thread until the recent comments by LcmL11 started the thread going in circles. Please read the thread before commenting, if only to spare the rest of us.


someone up thread asked about his history here, and thats it exactly: he talks in circles,
also he presents anything he hears from a wyndham sales person as fact and takes any disagreement as a personal attack
I know he has an agenda, I just cant figure out what it is.
 

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someone up thread asked about his history here, and thats it exactly: he talks in circles,
also he presents anything he hears from a wyndham sales person as fact and takes any disagreement as a personal attack
I know he has an agenda, I just cant figure out what it is.

Somethings never change, cross the mega renters, time share reselers, etc. the attack posts start, insults, investigations, etc. The line will be towed or else.

Truth goes to the winds. I have not talked to Wyndhams sales in years. For what it worth, I would believe them over the mega renters timeshare re-seller posts here. Actually, I do not believe either.
 
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Somethings never change, cross the mega renters, time share reselers, etc. the attack posts start, insults, investigations, etc. The line will be towed or else.

Truth goes to the winds. I have talked to Wyndhams sales in years. For what it worth, I would believe them over the mega renters timeshare re-seller posts here. Actually, I do not believe either.

And around the circles does Robert/rrlongwell/lcml11 go ... again. ;)
 

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If anyone had the suspension in effect at the end of their use year, were points lost?

Not being able to cancel reservations in a timely manner, I would think, be a problem. I am assuming this reservation points would just be lost.

From your comments as OP have said it is clear that you haven't taken the time to read the posts in this thread and as they have said if you want your posts to have credibility then it would help if you understood what has transpired to date. If you feel like OP are criticizing you then you should take into consideration that this whole situation with the freeze and all the aspects of it have been unbelievably distressing both emotionally and financially to the impacted owners. Also that many of us who weren't frozen have been involved in this thread because we understand the implications of how this has and will continue to affect every Wyndham owner. As OP stated you want to engage in discussion and debate of the topic that took place pages/months ago and those involved in this thread are well beyond that now.

If you had read the posts in this thread you would know that:

1) Points were lost. And yes some of the owners had paid maintenance fees on those points.
2) Reservations were lost.
3) Frozen owners weren't and some still aren't able to make new reservations.
4) At times the frozen/suspended owners have not been able to get guests added to reservations.
5) Frozen owners adding guests had to pay the call in center fee of $129 instead of the online fee of $99 with no consideration given to the fact that Wyndham denied them online access to their accounts.
6) None of us knows exactly how many people had their accounts frozen.
7) Some frozen owners had been telling Wyndham that there were unexplained large numbers of points that they didn't own in their accounts.
8) Owners who were contacted by Wyndham attorneys in the early stages of the "investigations" were treated like criminals. As in: We know you did something; tell us what you did and it will go easier on you.
9) Some owners are in settlement negotiations with Wyndham.
10) Some have had access to their accounts restored with limitations like being unable to credit pool points or buy or sell deeds/contracts.
11) Some are still unable to do anything more than add guests to reservations made prior to 8/15/16 or cancel those reservations.
12) Wyndham overall has been somewhat sketchy to downright awful in taking and returning phone calls on the dedicated number for frozen owners.
13) The audits that were done took forever and some are still not done.
14) Some owners had points taken from them and owners were not permitted to see the findings of the audits on their accounts.
15) Some audits were not even correct.
16) The glitches that caused points to appear aren't fixed and some of those partially thawed owners are still seeing points they don't own show up in their accounts.
 
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From your comments as OP have said it is clear that you haven't taken the time to read the posts in this thread and as they have said if you want your posts to have credibility then it would help if you understood what has transpired to date. If you feel like OP are criticizing you then you should take into consideration that this whole situation with the freeze and all the aspects of it have been unbelievably distressing both emotionally and financially to the impacted owners. Also that many of us who weren't frozen have been involved in this thread because we understand the implications of how this has and will continue to affect every Wyndham owner. As OP stated you want to engage in discussion and debate of the topic that took place pages/months ago and those involved in this thread are well beyond that now.

If you had read the posts in this thread you would know that:

1) Points were lost. And yes some of the owners had paid maintenance fees on those points.
2) Reservations were lost.
3) Frozen owners weren't and some still aren't able to make new reservations.
4) At times the frozen/suspended owners have not been able to get guests added to reservations.
5) Owners adding guests had to pay the call in center fee of $129 instead of the online fee of $99 with no consideration given to the fact that Wyndham denied them online access to their account
6) None of us knows exactly how many people had their accounts frozen.
7) Some frozen owners had been telling Wyndham that there were unexplained large numbers of points that they didn't own in their accounts.
8) Owners who were contacted by Wyndham attorneys in the early stages of the "investigations" were treated like criminals. As in: We know you did something; tell us what you did and it will go easier on you.
9) Some owners are in settlement negotiations with Wyndham.
10) Some have had access to their accounts restored with limitations like being unable to credit pool points or buy or sell deeds/contracts.
11) Some are still unable to do anything more than add guests to reservations made prior to 8/15/16 or cancel those reservations.
12) Wyndham overall has been somewhat sketchy to downright awful in taking and returning phone calls on the dedicated number for frozen owners.
13) The audits that were done took forever and some are still not done.
14) Some owners had points taken from them and owners were not permitted to see the findings of the audits on their accounts,
15) Some audits were not even correct.
16) The glitches that caused points to appear aren't fixed and some of those partially thawed owners are still seeing points they don't own show up in their accounts.

Thanks for the nicely done summary.
 

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Somethings never change, cross the mega renters, time share reselers, etc. the attack posts start, insults, investigations, etc. The line will be towed or else.

Truth goes to the winds. I have talked to Wyndhams sales in years. For what it worth, I would believe them over the mega renters timeshare re-seller posts here. Actually, I do not believe either.

The thing is Robert there has been no attack,,,yet; in spite of one being justified. You drop into this thread without reading it.. You are sitting on the side of the tracks watching a train wreck and presuming to tell those of us involved what happened and whats likely to happen from here. This is not a spectator sport. and I dont appreciate you using me for your personal pleasure. .

I dont understand why you would believe a salesman over the real life experiences of anyone here. We have nothing to gain from a lie. Your salesmen are angling for a sale. and their reputation is that they will stretch the truth a bit to get one
 

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This thread is difficult enough to follow without a centuries-old tiff that adds nothing to the topic. I've been reading since the beginning and still don't have a thorough understanding of what's happening, or, enough info to know whether/how much of the problem can be attributed to Wyndham and how much/whether to owners. And it's normal for threads that have gone on this long to generate questions at any point, regardless of whether the answers may have been posted somewhere within.

One of the many important things being discussed in this thread is the fact that Wyndham has/is not making it easy or expedient for owners to get the answers they need. This thread is hopefully serving as an aid for owners to insist on proper resolutions. Please stop the sideshow that could end up derailing/closing the thread to those who need it most.
 

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One again cannot add guest names to reservations within 15 days of check in. But the person I spoke to was going to look into it. I guess Wyndham forgot February only has 28 days.

I also got a reminder that my mfs are due for 2017 at the resort where I PIC the units with Wyndham. Am I even able to PIC the units if I wanted to and if I can I cannot even use the points until maybe some unknown time in the future.
 

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This thread is difficult enough to follow without a centuries-old tiff that adds nothing to the topic. I've been reading since the beginning and still don't have a thorough understanding of what's happening, or, enough info to know whether/how much of the problem can be attributed to Wyndham and how much/whether to owners. And it's normal for threads that have gone on this long to generate questions at any point, regardless of whether the answers may have been posted somewhere within.

One of the many important things being discussed in this thread is the fact that Wyndham has/is not making it easy or expedient for owners to get the answers they need. This thread is hopefully serving as an aid for owners to insist on proper resolutions. Please stop the sideshow that could end up derailing/closing the thread to those who need it most.

The above is true enough. The information is useful, I am assuming, to people trying to stay out of this. I went through a variation of this current problem before. I am also attempting to get 3 of my current ownership deeds listed under my ownership section under the pre-view site and get my LLC owner access to the site. This thing may be spreading. One of the Wyndham Corporate employees made a comment to me something to the effect that the system was working as designed. I did manage to get this person to get me a case number to continue my attempts to solve this.
 
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One again cannot add guest names to reservations within 15 days of check in. .

That has never been a rule, you should be able to add a GC up to time of check in.
 

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One of the many important things being discussed in this thread is the fact that Wyndham has/is not making it easy or expedient for owners to get the answers they need. This thread is hopefully serving as an aid for owners to insist on proper resolutions. Please stop the sideshow that could end up derailing/closing the thread to those who need it most.
Thanks Sue. I rely on this post for ANY updates from other impacted owners, even if it is to say nothing has changed.

I take heart today when Ron speaks of the events of this day being one that likely brings closure to his situation. Ron has stated his opinion that once his case is settled, then the powers that be can move on to other accounts.

I would be beyond irritated if this thread was shut down due to someone who is not impacted causing a dispute.

Thank you for your call back to the issue at hand. And for me, once again, no updates. Only another invoice to pay.




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That has never been a rule, you should be able to add a GC up to time of check in.

I mean they would not let me add the guest names as they can only add them up to the end of the month. Why could they not have just established a rolling date back in September that would be standard to avoid all of this.
 

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I mean they would not let me add the guest names as they can only add them up to the end of the month. Why could they not have just established a rolling date back in September that would be standard to avoid all of this.

Is that a restriction in your limited use of your account? If it is I don't understand your restriction.

Because that is NOT a standard wyndham restriction.
 

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The above is true enough. The information is useful, I am assuming, to people trying to stay out of this. I went through a variation of this current problem before. I am also attempting to get 3 of my current ownership deeds listed under my ownership section under the pre-view site and get my LLC owner access to the site. This thing may be spreading. One of the Wyndham Corporate employees made a comment to me something to the effect that the system was working as designed. I did manage to get this person to get me a case number to continue my attempts to solve this.
Well, can you please take that to a different thread because it really has nothing to do with this one. You're talking about ownership deeds and the new owner site, which is WAY outside the OT here. It's cluttering up what is already and hugely unwieldy thread.

Thanks, BTW, Jan for the summary update, good job! :cheer: Ron, have not forgotten how RL's tactics work in spinning a thread into oblivion. Irritation justified! :wall: Sue's point is SPOT ON! :thumbup: And I'm with WJ, would be a kinda SO not happy if this thread gets shut down because of circular postings of one person. :(

MODS!???? Oh.... Sue IS a mod. Keep us in check please!
 
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Is that a restriction in your limited use of your account? If it is I don't understand your restriction.

Because that is NOT a standard wyndham restriction.


Limitation of my account. Wyndham gets to decide how far out I can add guest names to reservations.
 

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Is that a restriction in your limited use of your account? If it is I don't understand your restriction.

Because that is NOT a standard wyndham restriction.


Limitation of my account. Wyndham gets to decide how far out I can add guest names to reservations.

Sandy, I believe that Adam is still fully restricted not thawed or partially thawed like OP. He cannot make reservations and can only add guest names within x number of days of check in.
 

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Sandy, I believe that Adam is still fully restricted not thawed or partially thawed like OP. He cannot make reservations and can only add guest names within x number of days of check in.

I got that Jan. I just don't know who has what limitations, or what exactly what those specific limitations are. Too many variations to keep track.
 

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Is that a restriction in your limited use of your account? If it is I don't understand your restriction.

Because that is NOT a standard wyndham restriction.
When I was frozen, the guest cert restriction was "only able to add GC's in rolling 15 day increments. I had to get within 15 days of the reservation before I could add a GC.
Mike
 

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This thing may be spreading. One of the Wyndham Corporate employees made a comment to me something to the effect that the system was working as designed.

Am I the only one that wishes you would start to provide the name of the employees you are relying on as a source for your posts? IMHO the constant stream of information from nameless Wyndham sources is just increasing the signal to noise ratio of the thread.
 

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Am I the only one that wishes you would start to provide the name of the employees you are relying on as a source for your posts? IMHO the constant stream of information from nameless Wyndham sources is just increasing the signal to noise ratio of the thread.

I do not the answer to your question. You may want to just ask them. I do not think that would be productive or needed. If Wyndham wants to know, I understand they tape record most or all conversations. They can just check the recordings if they are interested.
 
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