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Originally Posted by Rent_Share
Pay no attention to this POSTER no one has yet to figure out his agenda
The posters here are users not resellers
Thanks for the attack post. I would think there might have been common agreement that the decision should be up to the buyer. I was not going to mention a particularily interest post recently that pertained to someone who did recend a Wyndham contract and many many years later is not facinig collection actions. P.S. The reason no one has figured out my agenda is I do not have one.
The following are some of the links that should be reviewed. The first one is of particularly interesting.
http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168495
http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167502
http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169018
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Last edited by rrlongwell : April 15, 2012 at 09:21 PM.
"In my opinion, a way of phrasing the above more to Wyndham's liking would be to observe the rental portion is of growing significance to the profitability of Wyndham Worldwide and that organizational changes need to made to reconizing the increasing role of the rental related activities.*********** Have fun, it took me forever and a day to get all of the problems with my account resolved when I took over my mother's and step fathers Wyndham timeshares relating to Wyndham percentant insistance on taking back some or all of my Club Wyndham Plus timeshares and going into Club Wyndham Access instead.********* It is not real surprising to me that this effort is not limited to direct purchase/inherited timeshares, but also includes the re-sale buyers."
In my opionion, the driving intent of Wyndham is create new developer sales into the Club Wyndham Access program where Club Wyndham Access owns the deeds and Wyndham can take over the use rights at various points in time for the for their own uses. If I am right, this would primarily affect re-sale owners, UDI owners, fixed week owners, converted week owner etc.
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RR:
If you do not have an agenda, then maybe it is paranoia!
I am not aware of any unindicted co-conspirators or clicks
It is differences of opinion and perspectives that make Forums like this valuable. One would expect disagreement but not feel they are being attacked.
However, when one relies on Wyndham salespeople and rumors they are going to end up in deep shit!
Like other poster I fail to see the relevance of above referenced posts to this thread!
In the real world of e-bay resale where you have original owner, post card guy, buyer, Title Company, County Clerk, Wyndham Deeding, post office, etc. all involved it is amazing more problems do not arise as these are all humans who do make mistakes. Given Wyndham hates resales as they view it as a lost sale when in reality many resale buyers could not come up with $15K, $25K whatever. Likewise, some people simply cannot pay MF. Until they sell and someone starts paying MF all the resort owners share this loss/extra burden plus POA.
After reading posts on
www.wyndsham.com I hope you understand VIP benefits can and will be exterminated.
The math is simple, $50K squandered on basic VIP is vaporized when recission period expires!. If left in diversified no load, low operating fee mutual fund like Vanguard 500 or Total Market Index over a long period should return 9-10% or around $5K a year. If not, maybe we should start learning a second language and/or buying North Korea war bonds!
With $5K earnings I could rent 1,000,000 points at $500/ 100,000 points. This is 3 two BR Presidentials at BC and change. My 300K points will get me two Deluxe 1 BRs and change .If I maxed out Platinum owners VIP discounts I could theoritically end up with around 2 million points while my basic VIP would get me around 400K. I think a fifth grader would easily understand this math! Of course , I still have my $50K to supplemet retirement
and provide a nice reserve fund.
Your post indicates that even a Platnium VIP owner, you got screwed by deeding operation. I have to admit it is beyond my comprehension how deeding can force one to go to sales as the standard sales pitch and actually written in Deed is one can use, rent, will to heirs, etc. This deeded right cannot be changed. Of course, if one owns time shares in several states and has not had an estate planning attorney address say using a Living Trust then problems are guaranteed! It would make more sense to me for Deeding to screw over big resale buyers.
My original purchase took place at Branson, MO and it took two years to get a deed. Seems mighty Wyndham told Taney County Clerk she had to accept their deed form. Little did they realize the power a Southern politican/bureaucrat wields and finally came around.
Yes, I like several posters here are VIPs. Unfortunatelty, I did not have the benefit of this Forum and other Internet postings and there were no $1.00 e-bay sales eleven years ago. Indeed I think it is great when poster lists holdings so one has a clue where his biases might lie or is it lay?
I have followed the olde make lemonade approach and learned how to use Wyndham/RCI to my benefit, especially the olde RCI 28K deposits. I have taken over 60 weeks of vacation in one and two and a couple three BRs and figuring MF of $1,500 a year and amortizing cost of VIP over 10 years have spent less than $800 a week for lodging. However, I paid about 1 /2 what VIP is going for today and I am retired so if a bargain/cancellation, cancel and rebook pops up all I have to do is call cat sitter who also runs a car service and have her haul me out to DIA.
After catching saleperson in third or so lie I have had them disappear and some one rush me to gifting before other potential victims hear our heated discussion , but never throwed off propetry. Sales just rents some space and has no authority over general common area much less my unit!
Hey, kick back, hang loose, have a cold one, book that dream vacation , read about Don Quixote and stay away from those owner updates. Let Ron and myself rattle their cages.
Check out the following adventures of Don Quixote. Could attending too many owner updates be equated with reading too many chivalric novels and tilting windmills????
Don Quixote ( /ˌdɒn kiːˈhoʊtiː/; Spanish: [ˈdoŋ kiˈxote] ( listen)), fully titled The Ingenious Gentleman Don Quixote of La Mancha (Spanish: El ingenioso hidalgo don Quijote de la Mancha), is a novel written by Miguel de Cervantes. The novel follows the adventures of Alonso Quijano, who reads too many chivalric novels, and sets out to revive chivalry under the name of Don Quixote. He recruits a simple farmer, Sancho Panza as his squire, who frequently deals with Don Quixote's rhetorical orations on antiquated knighthood with a unique Earthy wit. He is met by the world as it is, initiating themes like Intertextuality, Realism, Metatheatre and Literary Representation.
Published in two volumes a decade apart, in 1605 and 1615, Don Quixote is considered the most influential work of literature from the Spanish Golden Age and the entire Spanish literary canon. As a founding work of modern Western literature, and one of the earliest canonical novels, it regularly appears high on lists of the greatest works of fiction ever published. In one such list, Don Quixote was cited as the "best literary work ever written".
The First Sally
Alonso Quijano, the protagonist of the novel, is a retired country gentleman nearing fifty years of age, living in an unnamed section of La Mancha with his niece and housekeeper. While mostly a rational man of sound reason, his reading of books of chivalry in excess has had a profound effect on him, leading to the distortion of his perception and the wavering of his mental faculties. In essence, he believes every word of these books of chivalry to be true though, for the most part, the content of these books is clearly fiction. Otherwise, his wits, in regards to everything other than chivalry, are intact. He decides to go out as a knight-errant in search of adventure. He dons an old suit of armour, renames himself "Don Quixote de la Mancha," and names his skinny horse "Rocinante". He designates a neighboring farm girl, as his lady love, renaming her Dulcinea del Toboso, while she knows nothing about this.
He sets out in the early morning and ends up at an inn, which he believes to be a castle. He asks the innkeeper, whom he thinks to be the lord of the castle, to dub him a knight. He spends the night holding vigil over his armor, where he becomes involved in a fight with muleteers who try to remove his armor from the horse trough so that they can water their mules. The innkeeper then dubs him a knight to be rid of him, and sends him on his way. Don Quixote next "frees" a young boy who is tied to a tree and beaten by his master by making his master swear on the chivalric code treat the boy fairly. The boy's beating is continued as soon as Quixote leaves. Don Quixote has a run-in with traders from Toledo, who "insult" the imaginary Dulcinea, one of whom severely beats Don Quixote and leaves him on the side of the road. Don Quixote is found and returned to his home by a neighboring peasant.
The Second Sally
While Don Quixote is unconscious in his bed, his niece, the housekeeper, the parish curate, and the local barber secretly burn most of the books of chivalry, and seal up his library pretending that a magician has carried it off. After a short period of feigning health, Don Quixote approaches his neighbor, Sancho Panza, and asks him to be his squire, promising him governorship of an island. The uneducated Sancho agrees, and the pair sneak off in the early dawn. It is here that their series of famous adventures begin, starting with Don Quixote's attack on windmills that he believes to be ferocious giants. The two next encounter a group of friars accompanying a lady in a carriage. They are heavily cloaked, as is the lady, to protect themselves from the hot climate and dust on the road. Don Quixote takes the friars to be enchanters who hold the lady captive. He knocks a friar from his horse, and is immediately challenged by an armed Basque travelling with the company. As he has no shield, the Basque uses a pillow to protect himself, which saves him when Don Quixote strikes him. The combat ends with the lady leaving her carriage and demanding those travel with her to "surrender".
The Pastoral Wanderings
Sancho and Don Quixote go on, and fall in with a group of goatherds. Don Quixote tells Sancho and the goatherds about the "Golden Age" of man, reminiscent of both Ovid and the later Rousseau in which property does not exist, and men live in peace. The goatherds invite the Knight and Sancho to the funeral of Grisóstomo, once a student who left his studies to become a shepherd after reading Pastoral novels, seeking the shepherdess Marcela. At the funeral Marcela appears, delivering a long speech vindicating herself from the bitter verses written about her by Grisóstomo, claiming her own autonomy and freedom from expectations put on her by Pastoral clichés. She disappears into the woods, and Don Quixote and Sancho follow. Ultimately giving up, the two stop and dismount by a pond to rest. Some Galicians arrive to water their ponies, and Rocinante attempts to mate with them. The Galicians hit Rocinante with clubs to dissuade him, which Don Quixote takes as a threat and runs to defend Rocinante. The Galicians beat Don Quixote and Sancho leaving them in great pain.
The Adventures with Cardenio and Dorotea
After leaving the prisoners, The Knight and Sancho wander into the Sierra Morena, and there encounter the dejected Cardenio. Cardenio relates the first part of his story, in which he falls deeply in love with his childhood friend Luscinda, and is hired as the companion to the Duke's son, putting leading to his friendship with the Duke's younger son, Don Fernando. Cardenio confides in Don Fernando his love for Luscinda and the delays in their engagement, caused by Cardenio's desire to keep with tradition. After reading Cardenio's poems praising Luscinda, Don Fernando falls in love with her. Don Quixote interrupts when Cardenio suggests that his beloved may have become unfaithful after the formulaic stories of spurned lovers in Chivalric novels.
Don Quixote de la Mancha and Sancho Panza, 1863, by Gustave Doré
In the course of their travels, the protagonists meet innkeepers, prostitutes, goatherds, soldiers, priests, escaped convicts, and scorned lovers. These encounters are magnified by Don Quixote’s imagination into chivalrous quests. Don Quixote’s tendency to intervene violently in matters which do not concern him, and his habit of not paying his debts, result in many privations, injuries, and humiliations (with Sancho often getting the worst of it). Finally, Don Quixote is persuaded to return to his home village. The author hints that there was a third quest, but says that records of it have been lost.