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Parent's worst nightmare [Gabby Petito disappearance]

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No excuse for total silence since September 1st.
Moraly, there is no argument, but we don't have a justice system, we have an adversarial legal system.
 

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So the hour long video said that the police concluded that it was Gabby who was attacking Brian. Well, this 911 call actually indicated that Brian was slapping Gabby repeatedly. It is so f-up that the in person interview by the police gave the impression that Gabby was the abuser. You have to listen to the 911 recording. It is so sad to hear it.

 

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So sad that from the video I saw Gabby got into a police vehicle at one point...so wish she had been taken to safety at that point...not pointing fingers...just wished it had a different ending of course.
 

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So sad that from the video I saw Gabby got into a police vehicle at one point...so wish she had been taken to safety at that point...not pointing fingers...just wished it had a different ending of course.
From multiple reports she said to the officers that there was no problems and she wished no further action be taken. The officers could not remove her against her will and take her elsewhere. They did interview her away from Brian and she requested to stay. This happens far to often with domestic situations but, law enforcement has no choice.
 

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From multiple reports she said to the officers that there was no problems and she wished no further action be taken. The officers could not remove her against her will and take her elsewhere. They did interview her away from Brian and she requested to stay. This happens far to often with domestic situations but, law enforcement has no choice.
For sure - just wishing anyway
 

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As with many domestic abused partners, they apologise and believe that it is their fault that they get beaten because of something that they did. Now I think back about what she said to the officer that she kept apologizing to Brian for being mean and that it was her fault.
 

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She was a pretty, white, blonde girl. Just pointing out the obvious.

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Did you give any thought to how many other, "pretty, white, blonde girls" are missing as we speak or type actually?
 

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A police note was found on Brian Laundrie's car after he disappeared following a hike into a
Florida nature preserve, his family says.


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Richard
Police left a note there for the tow truck to tow the car away from the driveway. The car has since been towed off for police investigation.
 

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Yes, but a story with bizarre twists.
Absolutely, the twists and them having a decent social media following were contributing factors to this story getting so much attention. But if we're all honest, the fact that the victim was a pretty, young, white girl is also a major contributing factor. That is all I was saying. It would be great if all missing person cases got more attention in hope that it would save more people and/or solve more crimes, but unfortunately that is not the case.

Kurt
 

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Absolutely, the twists and them having a decent social media following were contributing factors to this story getting so much attention. But if we're all honest, the fact that the victim was a pretty, young, white girl is also a major contributing factor. That is all I was saying. It would be great if all missing person cases got more attention in hope that it would save more people and/or solve more crimes, but unfortunately that is not the case.

Kurt
Not sure how much of a social media following they had. It looks like she might have had about 13K Instagram followers as of Tuesday the 14th. I think the news broke on the 13th because their YouTube subscribers started to pile up then. So a bunch of those Insta followers are probably because of the news coverage coming out. They had only 149 YouTube subscribers on the 12th. Usually family and friends that wanted to follow along. I don't think he really had any followers on Instagram. Mostly it seems to have come down to her family making a plea for help to the media. They now of course have huge followings, for accounts that won't be putting out new content. It does look like they may have another video on YouTube that simply isn't published. When you watch their single video, there is an end card to another video that isn't available. That is because the video is set to Private or was deleted after upload.

For many others that aren't young, pretty and white in middle to upper middle class, their stories, at least as far as the American public and the media are concerned, are not sensational. Quite often runaways or they fall into the sex trafficking trade. Unfortunately most people would rather stick their head in the sand than to confront the issues around that. Those types of stories don't get clicks and today it is all about the click.
 

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The bf showing up w/o her in Florida in her van. His family keeps quiet but get a lawyer. The Moab 911 call reporting a man (Brian) hitting a woman (Abby) white van Florida plates. The body cams footage on the police stop all make this story . Her family got the media's attention. Her dad was on a Dr Phil taped before they found the body.

Domestic Violence many people don't know much about or recognize
 

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A young Latino boy has been missing for years and our news periodically reports on it when there is a search or vigil. But there isn't really much more to report except he hasn't been found. The case is cold as with many of the missing.
 

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Autopsy confirms remains found in Wyoming are Gabby Petito's, FBI says.


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From what I gather, his attorney is recommending he not speak to the police. No attorney is going to say go and talk to the police. Especially since they suspect his guilt. Nothing he can say is going to help him in this situation. Even if he were 100% innocent. Aside from him finding the girl and show she is alive, talking to the police won't help him. He is suspect #1, as is the BF or husband in almost all of these situations. It is up to the police to get the evidence, with or without his cooperation. It is up to the DA to build the case against him. He doesn't have to cooperate. That may not make him look good, but perhaps he is thinking he committed the perfect crime and they will never get enough evidence to press charges. That will be what he is hoping for. Just the fact that there was a fight, indicates he shouldn't talk. I am certainly not saying he is a good person, his conscience may catch up with him. Who knows, but in his situation, his attorney is very likely telling him to not talk to anyone.

I know it is a long video in post #9, but that video lays out why he should not talk to the police.

Two things you should never do when having trouble with the law - talk to the police (at least not before you speak to, and have an attorney present), and sign a waiver of your right to a speedy trial once they've filed charges. Never. When they read you your Miranda rights, BELIEVE them when they say 'anything you say can and will be held against you in a court of law'.

And if your attorney thinks that your not talking to the cops is making you look bad to the jury, then he/she should ask the Judge to explain Miranda rights to them and instruct them that they should not consider your silence as an admission of guilt, nor a statement of innocence.
 

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As with many domestic abused partners, they apologise and believe that it is their fault that they get beaten because of something that they did. Now I think back about what she said to the officer that she kept apologizing to Brian for being mean and that it was her fault.


I'll add to this that the abuse victims know that if they say anything to the police, the consequences with the boyfriend will be that much worse later on. So, even if pulled aside, they won't tell the police officer the true story.
 

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When I read about Gabby Petito, I immediately thought of the case where a 20 year old coed who lived near us in and was attending University of Indiana disappeared one night in Bloomington. Ten years later, her parents still don't know what happened.

http://www.wbiw.com/2021/06/03/lauren-spierer-went-missing-10-years-ago-today/
Well...they sort of do. She was associating with two affluent male students who were involved with drugs. Someone and likely multiple people have an idea of what happened to her. It's unlikely that her remains will be found, but that is still possible. Another local woman was riding her bike and somehow murdered and buried in the woods. They eventually found her remains.

I hope for the Spierers that someone talks.
 

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In a series of videos on TikTok, one woman said she and her boyfriend gave Laundrie a ride on Aug. 29 in Wyoming — and that he claimed he was camping by himself for multiple days while Petito was back at their van working on social media posts.

Miranda Baker said they picked up Laundrie while he was hitchhiking in Colter Bay, Wyoming, which is not far from where Petito's remains were found. He offered to pay $200 for the ride before he even got in the car, she said.

Baker, in her TikTok videos, said that when Laundrie found out she and her boyfriend were going to Jackson Hole instead of Jackson, he got agitated, asked that the vehicle stop, and got out near the Jackson Dam. She said they dropped him off less than 30 minutes after picking him up.

 

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It was all just a misunderstanding, he seems like such an upstanding, innocent guy who just got caught up in all this. :crash:
 

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It was all just a misunderstanding, he seems like such an upstanding, innocent guy who just got caught up in all this. :crash:
Not sure anyone ever said that?
 
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