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You may want to go back and actually see who insists on posting their opinions first. Or you can look at this thread. Some one posts that they had a case in their neighborhood. They are immediately confronted with how do you know it was the first case .......post 5. Which of course started the ridiculousness of the comments. Then someone :rolleyes: in post 39 calls a lot of people selfish. And even admits this post will not be received well. I can only wonder why someone would post something they know will get nasty and then blames others for replying.

I was simply responding to turkel’s question from my perspective.
 

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You may want to go back and actually see who insists on posting their opinions first. Or you can look at this thread. Some one posts that they had a case in their neighborhood. They are immediately confronted with how do you know it was the first case .......post 5. Which of course started the ridiculousness of the comments. Then someone :rolleyes: in post 39 calls a lot of people selfish. And even admits this post will not be received well. I can only wonder why someone would post something they know will get nasty and then blames others for replying.

And so you are saying it’s ok for someone to post that one group of people is selfish, but not for someone to counter that saying it is another group that is selfish? That the poster who calls one group selfish should not get what you consider nasty remarks but the other should? Yeah- I do see that one, which is why I said it would not be received well!

As for post #5 I totally get that question because it was the first thing that came to my mind when the OP started this thread.

Seems to me you are the one with the opinion calling peoples’ comments ridiculous.
 

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And so you are saying it’s ok for someone to post that one group of people is selfish, but not for someone to counter that saying it is another group is selfish? That the poster who calls one group selfish should get what you consider nasty remarks but the other should? Yeah- I do see that one, which is why I said it would not be re well!

As for post #5 I totally get that question because it was the first thing that came to my mind when the OP started this thread.

Seems to me you are the one with the opinion calling peoples’ comments ridiculous.

There was nothing wrong with the question on post #5. That post did not invite or provoke any negativity. There were others calling people selfish well before post #39, for example, see post #16. In post #3 there was a judgmental comment about those who get Covid. The silliness started in reaction to post #18 where someone suggested making Covid public to neighbors and where they work.
 

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There was nothing wrong with the question on post #5. That post did not invite or provoke any negativity. There were others calling people selfish well before post #39, for example, see post #16. In post #3 there was a judgmental comment about those who get Covid. The silliness started in reaction to post #18 where someone suggested making Covid public to neighbors and where they work.

Why is that silly? Make it public so it is made real to some. So people know to stay away from that house for the time being. Also people can police the house to make sure no one is coming or going even if its just to get milk. Making it public would help to keep cases from going even higher.
 

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Why is that silly? Make it public so it is made real to some. So people know to stay away from that house for the time being. Also people can police the house to make sure no one is coming or going even if its just to get milk. Making it public would help to keep cases from going even higher.

Because unlike you, most of us live in the United States of America or another “free” nation, not communist China.
 

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Why is that silly? Make it public so it is made real to some. So people know to stay away from that house for the time being. Also people can police the house to make sure no one is coming or going even if its just to get milk. Making it public would help to keep cases from going even higher.
I remain against surveillance. Who is supposed to do that? I don't want anyone "policing" me or my house. It's completely unnecessary and quite creepy. I would call the cops if someone was coming around. Why would anyone just walk up to my house anyway?? Why would anyone be going to houses of others without invite during a pandemic? What's it to you if I get my groceries curbside? What's the problem with my heading to the doctor or picking up meds via drive through?

Numbers are public, they are real. Nobody has to disclose their status to you for it to be "real". Why not assume that everyone is infected vs demanding to know who has proof of sickness?
 

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I don't know why, in your situation, some can go to school and others can not if these friends are local. Perhaps private schools.

My granddaughter lost much of that second semester of her senior year at a historic private school that she had been going to since she was 2 1/2 years old! There were lots of "ceremonial things" and "PLUS everything else" that she'd been waiting for when she finally got to be a senior. It's hard and it's sad but these are different times in a changing world. We try to do the best we can to protect ourselves and others with the evolving and limited information that we have. I'm ashamed of the way my granddaughter acted when she went to Clemson this fall. I can only keep her at a distance now and that hurts too. People are hurting for lost opportunities everywhere. Non more so than the family and friends of the dead.

I have many friends who live in different parts of the country than I do and their kids are in school & participating in sports. They have had homecoming, they are taking SATs, etc.

Even Dr. Fauci now agrees that kids should be in school.

If you are high school senior in many metro areas of the US year, it is very likely that you will graduate high school in '21 without physically being in your school since March '20. Illinois is discussing, AGAIN, modifying some of the high school graduation requirements, like they did last spring. I find that really unbelievable.
 

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I remain against surveillance. Who is supposed to do that? I don't want anyone "policing" me or my house. It's completely unnecessary and quite creepy. I would call the cops if someone was coming around. Why would anyone just walk up to my house anyway?? Why would anyone be going to houses of others without invite during a pandemic? What's it to you if I get my groceries curbside? What's the problem with my heading to the doctor or picking up meds via drive through?

Numbers are public, they are real. Nobody has to disclose their status to you for it to be "real". Why not assume that everyone is infected vs demanding to know who has proof of sickness?

I don't disagree with you about surveillance but I'd go a little bit further as far as each of us acknowledging the very real risk and being willing to do what we're asked to do to lessen the spread. So, "why not assume that everyone is infected" and contagious, and follow the simple guidelines that ask everyone to wear a mask, wash your hands, practice social distancing consistently, and limit travel to only when necessary?
 

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I laugh because you think there are probably cases and no one knew. Maybe 10 to 15 percent don’t participate but somehow people know everything that happens in this community even to the people who know very few others. I am not one in the know, but word spreads like wildfire here. If someone gets covid who belongs to a certain group, it will be widespread within two weeks

person who is positive reports that she feels like a bad head cold with loss of taste and smell and husband has no symptoms

I read this cute book this summer called Before She Was Helen. Helen is living in a senior community under an assumed name trying to keep a low profile. Pretty funny reading how that worked out
 
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1) wash hands frequently
2) wear a mask when around others and not able to SD
3) social distancing
4) work remotely if possible and stay home if you don’t feel well

if everyone would have just done these simple things we wouldn’t have the cluster behind or ahead of us. Too many people act like these simple acts are a burden and many of the people who could impact this behavior have been absent and ignorant.
 
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I have many friends who live in different parts of the country than I do and their kids are in school & participating in sports. They have had homecoming, they are taking SATs, etc.

Even Dr. Fauci now agrees that kids should be in school.

If you are high school senior in many metro areas of the US year, it is very likely that you will graduate high school in '21 without physically being in your school since March '20. Illinois is discussing, AGAIN, modifying some of the high school graduation requirements, like they did last spring. I find that really unbelievable.

Where is this? Public schools? I haven't heard of any public schools that are having normal years. Just getting a seat for the SATs is a huge struggle bc the College Board has canceled so many test dates. We are in NJ. Here the schools opened late, parents have the option of virtual or hybrid learning, and almost all kids are doing all-virtual.
 

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Where is this? Public schools? I haven't heard of any public schools that are having normal years. Just getting a seat for the SATs is a huge struggle bc the College Board has canceled so many test dates. We are in NJ. Here the schools opened late, parents have the option of virtual or hybrid learning, and almost all kids are doing all-virtual.
Schools are open in IN
 

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They are open here, but not at all like fully attended. Schools that can accommodate 1200 sudents have an average daily population, including teachers, of about 80 people. Are classrooms full in Indiana?
 

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They are open here, but not at all like fully attended. Schools that can accommodate 1200 sudents have an average daily population, including teachers, of about 80 people. Are classrooms full in Indiana?
My best friend is a principal in IN and her school is fully open.
I can't speak for all schools in IN and their capacity but I see friends of mine posting pictures from fall sports, etc.
We having NOTHING in IL.
In fact, our district sent out an email today saying they are refunding most of the fees paid for yearbooks as there will be no yearbooks to speak of this year. They are just going to have a book that has student photos and that's it , as there are no activities / clubs / sports to publish.
 

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It looks like Indiana is hurting and many schools are not open for in-person education.

More Indiana schools move online as COVID-19 spread spikes

Nearly 2,000 additional COVID-19 cases reported in schools, total tops 17,000

Marion County schools going back to virtual; new restrictions on businesses and gatherings

There were numerous articles I saw from a quick search.
 

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My best friend is a principal in IN and her school is fully open.
I can't speak for all schools in IN and their capacity but I see friends of mine posting pictures from fall sports, etc.
We having NOTHING in IL.
In fact, our district sent out an email today saying they are refunding most of the fees paid for yearbooks as there will be no yearbooks to speak of this year. They are just going to have a book that has student photos and that's it , as there are no activities / clubs / sports to publish.
So sad. Just devastating
 

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I have many friends who live in different parts of the country than I do and their kids are in school & participating in sports. They have had homecoming, they are taking SATs, etc.

Even Dr. Fauci now agrees that kids should be in school.

If you are high school senior in many metro areas of the US year, it is very likely that you will graduate high school in '21 without physically being in your school since March '20. Illinois is discussing, AGAIN, modifying some of the high school graduation requirements, like they did last spring. I find that really unbelievable.

Schools are open in most areas though attendance is limited and many do not show up on the days that they are assigned. It's the same in my college class. Since going hybrid, my professor has never had more than 4 students show up in the classroom. She is usually instructing an empty classroom via a bad camera and microphone set-up. We're a class of 25 students however, students choose not to go to class on the day assigned but to attend on ZOOM instead. When the campus was closed, the professor taught from her home and the sound and video quality was so much better! The kids don't seem to want to be there; whether they are afraid of COVID or just don't want to roll out of bed, get dressed and be in a physical classroom by 10 AM, I don't know.

I do understand your sorrow over your child missing out on her senior year; on homecoming, prom, sports and all those "plus" things. I felt for our granddaughter too. Our children will have stories to tell their children about the year/s when. Just like my parents told me and I had stories to tell my daughter about how "hard I had it."

When I was a teen and whined about what I couldn't do or she wouldn't let me do, my mother would finally just stop, turn and give me that look and say or sing, "Nobody ever promised you a rose garden."( I know, it's "I never promised you a rose garden.") I swore then that I would never be like my mother but over the years I have found her words just keep coming out of my mouth anyway and that song keeps popping into my mind. Nothing in life is guaranteed and that's a lesson well learned this past year.
 

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In Tennessee, they allow stadium sports. Someone I know on Facebook just attended a football game in a huge stadium in Memphis. She said it was like a ghost town because they were limiting attendance. However there were 16,000 people in attendance and the photos looked like there were lots of people anyway. So how can TN allow that when the rest of country is close to shut down or shutting down.
 
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Schools are open in most areas though attendance is limited and many do not show up on the days that they are assigned. It's the same in my college class. Since going hybrid, my professor has never had more than 4 students show up in the classroom. She is usually instructing an empty classroom via a bad camera and microphone set-up. We're a class of 25 students however, students choose not to go to class on the day assigned but to attend on ZOOM instead. When the campus was closed, the professor taught from her home and the sound and video quality was so much better! The kids don't seem to want to be there; whether they are afraid of COVID or just don't want to roll out of bed, get dressed and be in a physical classroom by 10 AM, I don't know.

I do understand your sorrow over your child missing out on her senior year; on homecoming, prom, sports and all those "plus" things. I felt for our granddaughter too. Our children will have stories to tell their children about the year/s when. Just like my parents told me and I had stories to tell my daughter about how "hard I had it."

When I was a teen and whined about what I couldn't do or she wouldn't let me do, my mother would finally just stop, turn and give me that look and say or sing, "Nobody ever promised you a rose garden."( I know, it's "I never promised you a rose garden.") I swore then that I would never be like my mother but over the years I have found her words just keep coming out of my mouth anyway and that song keeps popping into my mind. Nothing in life is guaranteed and that's a lesson well learned this past year.
Agreed... I was raised with a “life isn’t fair” motto . And I generally agree.

My daughter is “over” senior year. She saw the writing on the wall over the summer and has moved on . My biggest concern is that these kids get the educations that they need and deserve for what’s next in their lives... whatever that may be.
 

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Agreed... I was raised with a “life isn’t fair” motto . And I generally agree.

My daughter is “over” senior year. She saw the writing on the wall over the summer and has moved on . My biggest concern is that these kids get the educations that they need and deserve for what’s next in their lives... whatever that may be.

I learned more in high school than in college. But I took a lot of AP and honors classes and happened to have good teachers in the public high school I attended. This made college very easy for me compared to others. Frankly all the fundamentals were there for me by high school. I think primary and secondary education is critical. I am not really worried about college age kids. They either have the skills or don’t by college.
 

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So how can TN allow that when the rest of country is close to shut down or shutting down.
I would have to dispute that the rest of the country is close to shut down or shutting down. I'm not finding news like that, please name shut down states.

I don't know the situation in TN but they aren't the only stadium accepting spectators. Things are dynamic, could be the only attended event they have. Or maybe their situation is at plateau or decreasing infection rates, etc.

I did think it odd, watching some NFL over the weekend, how guests were distributed. BIG place, I would have thought people would have been MUCH more distanced. Honestly, facility management in a situation like this has got to be a headache.
 

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It looks like Indiana is hurting and many schools are not open for in-person education.

More Indiana schools move online as COVID-19 spread spikes

Nearly 2,000 additional COVID-19 cases reported in schools, total tops 17,000

Marion County schools going back to virtual; new restrictions on businesses and gatherings

There were numerous articles I saw from a quick search.
I would suspect the schools in:
  • Gary Metro area
  • Indianapolis Metro area (Marion Co)
  • Louisville Metro area
are in the worst shape.

I would suspect that Ft Wayne, South Bend, Lafayette and Terre Haute are far behind.
 

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I would have to dispute that the rest of the country is close to shut down or shutting down. I'm not finding news like that, please name shut down states.

I don't know the situation in TN but they aren't the only stadium accepting spectators. Things are dynamic, could be the only attended event they have. Or maybe their situation is at plateau or decreasing infection rates, etc.

I did think it odd, watching some NFL over the weekend, how guests were distributed. BIG place, I would have thought people would have been MUCH more distanced. Honestly, facility management in a situation like this has got to be a headache.

I agree. Here in Louisiana both high school and college stadiums are allowed attendance equal to 25% capacity. That allows LSU to have approximately 21,000 in attendance. Now if LSU only had a football team this year where there was demand for that many seats! :(
 

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We felt safe in our community of 1000 homes, but it finally happened. The person who tested positive was one who argued with residents all this time that she wasn’t wearing a mask, she wasn’t changing her life style, she wasn’t living in fear. I knew she had a house cleaning business, but I didn’t realize she led the large water aerobics group too. I haven’t been doing anything but take my husband to medical appointments so we are safe so far. Had the test last Monday and we’re negative. Hoping others weren’t infected, lots of vulnerable people here.
It is not credible that this is the first person to get Covid in a community, in any community. I will tell you what most of your neighbors have done in the last 9 months:
shopping, they went to restaurants, visited friends and family, worked in the front lines etc. I would let the poor lady alone. I bet she had enough to suffer financially from this pandemic.
 
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