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- Vacation Internationale, HGVC - NYC, Worldmark, Shell Vacations, Sedona Pines, RCI Points, Starwood (Avon, CO)
We own 17,000 Shell Vacations Club West points (7,000 are developer). We did a presentation yesterday in San Diego at the Wyndham resort during our stay at Inn at the Park via Shell.
Bottom line is that we did not convert (pre-enroll our points) due to our ages, other timeshare ownership, expected usage of Wyndham and lack of a clear timeshare heir to pass on the VIP benefits to. However, I felt the (final) deal to convert that we were given was a pretty good deal.
For around $15,000 we would buy a small number of Wyndham CWA points and all of our Shell points (including resale) would be converted to Wyndham at a 40 to 1 ratio making us permanently VIP Gold (existing structure - platinum in new structure). The points were at a "long ago" price and there was no separate conversion fee - supposedly $2950.
However, we would be some kind of hybrid new Shell/Wyndham owner - the difference being our ability to use Shell as per our current situation (except with the minimal new CWA points). Supposedly none of our Shell benefits would change at all (except be expressed in the new higher point currency). Unfortunately, our VIP benefits would not apply to Shell stays (unless they maybe changed something in the future).
Technically we would be "pre-enrolling" our points for a sometime in 2020 conversion (once they got their programming, etc ready). Since we didn't buy I never read the paperwork to learn how this is technically structured - which I'd love to know.
The sales part was acting like everyone should have already enrolled our points and that resale points were no longer eligible for conversion or attaining VIP status. BUT....they MIGHT be able to make an exception if you were really interested.
We spent a long time there but that's mostly because we are chatty (and the final deal didn't come until we were heading out the door).
Again, I didn't feel overly pressured (they figured out early on that I am a very informed timeshare owner) and thought the price to end up VIP gold was pretty good.
I now many of you would have jumped at this chance to get the VIP benefits (which I admit - weren't bad) but it just didn't make sense for us and our expected use/non-use of Wyndham (we already own Worldmark).
Hope this is helpful to people.
Bottom line is that we did not convert (pre-enroll our points) due to our ages, other timeshare ownership, expected usage of Wyndham and lack of a clear timeshare heir to pass on the VIP benefits to. However, I felt the (final) deal to convert that we were given was a pretty good deal.
For around $15,000 we would buy a small number of Wyndham CWA points and all of our Shell points (including resale) would be converted to Wyndham at a 40 to 1 ratio making us permanently VIP Gold (existing structure - platinum in new structure). The points were at a "long ago" price and there was no separate conversion fee - supposedly $2950.
However, we would be some kind of hybrid new Shell/Wyndham owner - the difference being our ability to use Shell as per our current situation (except with the minimal new CWA points). Supposedly none of our Shell benefits would change at all (except be expressed in the new higher point currency). Unfortunately, our VIP benefits would not apply to Shell stays (unless they maybe changed something in the future).
Technically we would be "pre-enrolling" our points for a sometime in 2020 conversion (once they got their programming, etc ready). Since we didn't buy I never read the paperwork to learn how this is technically structured - which I'd love to know.
The sales part was acting like everyone should have already enrolled our points and that resale points were no longer eligible for conversion or attaining VIP status. BUT....they MIGHT be able to make an exception if you were really interested.
We spent a long time there but that's mostly because we are chatty (and the final deal didn't come until we were heading out the door).
Again, I didn't feel overly pressured (they figured out early on that I am a very informed timeshare owner) and thought the price to end up VIP gold was pretty good.
I now many of you would have jumped at this chance to get the VIP benefits (which I admit - weren't bad) but it just didn't make sense for us and our expected use/non-use of Wyndham (we already own Worldmark).
Hope this is helpful to people.